Canadian gun rights.
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Doesn't matter much to me, I'm grandfathered for prohibited military weapons.........my choice shown above (in semi-auto)
There are no accidents with firearms?
What's this, then:
Hunter acquitted in accidental shooting death | Canada | News | Toronto Sun
I'll reiterate that:
Risus, why is Switzerland not rife with gun violence if it all hinges on availability?
And their training goes beyond just firing the rifle. They each get basic infantry training at a minimum.
Oh, give him a break, AnnaG. Do you honestly think rifles are so available in Switzerland? Think about it for a moment. If your rifle is in basement, and you decide to rob a bank, it's not like you can just walk out the door and rob the bank. You have to go all the way down to the basement first. And then there's the issue of hiding your rifle in public. After all, we're not talking about a pistol, but an automatic assault rifle.
Ain't going to happen, I live within spitting distance of two large container terminals where a whopping 3% of containers are scruitinzed. Everything you can imagine, including human cargo can and does get in. Stolen vehicles get out. The firearms most exported, imported, used either for good and bad, come not from the US of A, but from Russia or China. The Kalashnikov or it's knockoff made by Norinco, either the '47 or and smaller calibre '74, are still the most popular and easily accessable firearms available. And yes, you can get them here.
Actually I understood from the article below that ND had 2 gun deaths in 2008 and 16 in 2007. That works out to 8 times. Iguess it depends on whose figures you believe. I was using a North Dakota newspaper, however.
North Dakota murder rate down to two in '08
It is interesting to note that in Canada most of the gun death murders are performed with guns that are illegal; namely the huge number of guns smuggled into Canada from poorly regulated states like Georgia. In other words the lack of firearms regulations in the USA has a direct bearing on gun crimes in Canada. In Mexico the situation is even worse with something like 90% of all illegal firearms coming from the USA.
Feature Focus: The Illegal Firearms Market in Canada
US guns fuel Canada and Mexico crimes, UK gun crime remains rare
I'm surprised you ever made it through school without getting kicked out. I never in any breath mentioned Harper, I never even identified a particular government. But if you look at history, and not your myopic view of it, you will see that most atrocities committed against citizens were done by their own governments. China, Russia, Cuba, you name it, do not list execution of political prisoners as crimes, duh!
Well, a friend of my wife's is friends with Laureen, that's about how well I know Stephen. I also never said I was a conservative, per se. If anything I would be a classical liberal, or liberal conservative, or libertarian. You on the other hand are anything but liberal in any true sense of the word, something our federal Liberal party is not either.
I can't speak to Germany however, all you need in France now is a postal address. You don't even need to live there, that is how Brits are getting firearms. But you must have been born yesterday to have not known what France and Germany had in the past. Germany severely ristricted firearms ownership before kristallnacht and beyond. The met with little or no resistance. France also had a firearms registry so the soldiers knew exactly who to target. What they did at the time was perfectly legal by their standards.
Not yet. Do you really believe that the government will make you happy and keep you safe? A real history lesson may cost you, and us, dearly if we have to re live it.
I might also mention that the British in the past were also particularly nasty to their own, not to mention the Scots and the Irish.
I have never said that, and for your information there is nowhere in the USA totally devoid of gun control except for the criminal element.
Ger, read your history, success at 100% arms control, (except for the followers of the regime of course) has preceeded totalitarianism 100% of the time, genocide often follows. It goes back millennia to feudal Japan, China, Mongolia, Rome, Europe... Look to recent history at places like Soviet Russia, Germany, China, North Korea, (or the euphemistically named Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea), Uganda, Rwanda, Ethiopia... And I'm willing to bet a paycheque that the citizens of these countries also were adamant it would never happen to them.
Absolutely - some people are brilliant when it comes to getting knowledge out of books, but when it comes to common sense or being socially adept, they are dumber than a bag of f******g hammers. :lol:
Hmmm....speaking of cherry picking.....
One of my pet peeves is the use of "gun murder" statistics.......they are a complete red herring. If the anti-gun forces believe taking my weapons away will lower the murder rate.......then they must demonstrate that there is not simply a move to other weapons.....
I mean, it seems blatantly obvious.....if someone decides to kill someone, and they have available a kitchen knife, a can of gasoline and a match, a baseball bat, a golf club, my car, a cast iron frying pan, a rock, a sword, and a 12 gauge shotgun.........one will generally use the 12 gauge shotgun. Now....to be justified in your claim that the restriction of the availability of the shotgun will stop killing, you need to demonstrate that one won't simply complete the act with one of the other tools available.....
And that is a very difficult task.......considering most of Canada's murders are committed without guns......
Incredible. And yet one more thread on guns. Are people that lazy they can't use the search function? Or that stupid they think we haven't discussed this at length before?
If people want to ban something, ban criminals. Guns are around and always will be as long as we have criminals. And its immensely moronic to subject the majority of gunowners to laws that are ineffective at doing what they are supposed to do.
If people want to ban something, ban criminals. Guns are around and always will be as long as we have criminals. And its immensely moronic to subject the majority of gunowners to laws that are ineffective at doing what they are supposed to do.