Canada Now Surpasses The USA In Many Categories
- Thread starter TeddyBallgame
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- karrie ... While I am somewhat flattered by your obsessive psycho-sexual attention in following me around with little snippy snipings but never any substantive arguments about anything important, I must tell you that I have an annoying habit of knowing what I am talking about which you and your left wing friends may well find off-putting.
- In regard to THE REAL LIST OF THE WORLD'S WEALTHIEST COUNTRIES, you can find it in Forbes Magazine as of the February 22nd, 2012 edition which takes each country's GDP and divides it by the country's population, the most accepted way to determine national wealth.
- The richest countries in the world are actually (in order of highest per capita GDP) Quatar, Luxemboutg, Singapore, Norway, Brunei, United Arab Emirate, USA, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Netherlands, Australia, Austria, Ireland and Canada.
- You will note that only Norway among the Scandanavian countires ranks in the top 14 and not because it is a socialist democracy but because it has a sh$tload of North Sea oil.
- You should also note that among these 14 countries, only 2 (two) are socialist democracies, Norway with the oil and the Netherlands.
- Game, set and match.
- Thanks for playing.
Congratulations.... You won! (in your own little mind) Keep that thought. It may be useful some day.
Do you think he thinks he 'wins' everyday? Maybe holds some kind of awards ceremony in his basement? Lol
I used to just believe you simply arrogant and so ignorant that you were incapable of providing illustration on your point of view without disparaging others. But clearly I've given you far too much credit. Obviously you are absolutely delusional. You are about as far from sexually interesting in your persona here at CanCon as is actually possible.
And ordinarily I would never do this but I feel pretty confident in speaking for Karrie on that point as well.
If you dislike or take issue with others calling you out on your behaviour then I would suggest you modify your behaviour so as not to be rude and ignorant to those with whom you may not happen to share a point of view. Others might actually listen to you if you tried to listen to them instead of insulting everyone and, although I'm sure you in your infinite arrogance don't find it possible, you might actually learn something.
What you need Teddy, is a blog as you are not capable of discussion with other human beings.
Gee teddy all that and with a left leaning government in Ottawa. If Harper was actually right wing as some of his less well balanced supporters we could be in as bad shape as the US.
You really need to seek professional help for your delusions of grandeur. In reality you are a narrow minded not very bright racist bigot.
You really need to seek professional help for your delusions of grandeur. In reality you are a narrow minded not very bright racist bigot.
Ew. Okay, that proves the ability to debate. I'm just not gonna bother reading further than that. Yuck.
I would highly encourage members to continue in reporting his repeated personal attacks on others and inability to debate the issue without them.
I would highly encourage members to continue in reporting his repeated personal attacks on others and inability to debate the issue without them.
- And I would highly encourage members to do enough at least cursory research and think objectively enough to know what the hell they are talking about instead of being embarrassingly wrong and then complaining when they are caught out on this.
- For example, one of the posters posted this world's wealthiest countries poster/picture putting the Scandanavian countries at the top of the list even though anyone who actually keeps up to date on such things should know that this is ridiculous and even though said poster/picture was taken from a conservative blog that used it as a joke.
- Said poster then claimed that this utterly misleading poster and list was "proof" that socialist states are wealthier and claimed that Canada was a left wing liberal state which was why it is wealthier than the US (actually, the US still has a higher per capita GDP but the collapse of the housing market has temporarily given us a higher average net worth) when Canada has had a Conservative government for the past six years.
- So this was game, set and match and the really moronic and fascistic of the extreme lefties here used to a forum of perpetual cicrle jerking got all upset and shot the messenger (me) for revealing their ignorance on this matter.
- So I would also highly encourage members here to take their heads out of their anuses and be open to information and learning and value those who facilitate this rather than trying to surpress them and wallow in dogma and ignorance.
There's a point there to be made.
The NDP represent a Socialist trend which has gained more popularity by the people over the years.
Is that a bad thing?
Considering most of the things Canadians take for granted (health care) are based on socialism, and most of the US fights tooth and nail against socialism and thinks Capitalism is the solution to all their problems (when pure Capitalism has been the root cause for most of their problems of late) one can only look and see why there is such a difference between the nations in the above categories mentioned.
Now I'm not saying total Socialism is the answer to all problems... It too has it's problems and while the US does have some socialism in its system, to me it seems Canada found a better balance between Capitalism and Socialism.... And I think that's the main difference between the two.
Yes many businesses have free range to do mostly what they want, as well as the banks but they still have more oversight than they do/did in the US, which was one of the main issues that caused the recession.
I agree. You always need to have some kind of balance in place to have any hope of forward momentum at all. Pulling too hard from one extreme to another, as goes on south of the border, just ends up in constant stalemates. This, in the end, is why nothing gets accomplished.
Indeed... No one political system is perfect, otherwise everybody would be using it and there'd be nothing to complain about.
Much like various religions, they all have some benefits yet still have their problems. Most countries around the world today all use some form of combined political system and are not pure communism, socialism, capitalism, democracy, etc.
They do so in such a way as to compliment the other system (or to regulate one another)
Even in the US, although they focus a lot on Capitalism, if it wasn't for their existing socialist systems, their country would be far worse off than they are now.
Imagine a nation where you had to pay your Firemen, Policemen or Soldiers before they decided to protect you?
They serve the public, they serve their nation because their communities and government pay them to do so, via socialist taxing of the public.
Then we have the auto bailouts and money pumped into banks during the recession. I felt they shouldn't have been given any money and go tits up in a capitalist environment so that new businesses could take over... But socialism came along and saved their butts, as well as the existing jobs of the public
Capitalism works for so long before it's saved by socialist methods.... Almost as a backup system in some cases. And while I support socialism personally, there are times when I feel it is used in wrong ways.... The bailouts was one such example as I have expressed many times here in the forums during that time.
Proof?
Sounds like you're describing Capitalism... While a small handfull of rich people use their money to get richer, those who are poor don't stand a chance to improve their lives and just get poorer while the rich rack up their expenses to become richer.... And while the Poor's neighbours try and help them out, they in turn become poorer and spreads like a plague... And by the time everybody is poor as sh*t, the rich no longer have money to suck away because they have it all and can just retire. They have no incentive to spread their wealth so they in turn become parasites as they suck everything they can from one place and then move off to the next place like locusts.
^ This is the extreme of one end of the spectrum and with Socialism, it helps regulate and ensure that the public who makes up the community have some level of protection.
Case in point is the housing market crash and how so many people were screwed over and kicked out of their homes due to lack of regulation and shady deals that allowed for people to buy houses they truly couldn't afford for a quick money grab.... And then kicked families out onto the streets because they couldn't pay off loans they couldn't afford in the first place.
Yet that didn't happen so much in Canada during that time and Canada didn't suffer as much as the US did.
Why?
Because of existing government oversight and existing regulations ensuring that sort of crap wouldn't happen.
In the US they had no government oversight so big wigs raked in piles of money fast at the public's expense and lived the good life in the process. When the sh*t hit the fan and their companies were about to go broke, they cried to the government to save them from their own mistakes.... And the government did... At the public's expense yet again, but in order to prevent the situation from getting worse for the people by more people losing jobs when those businesses went under.
They were given public money to save their businesses/banks/etc. .... And what did they do with this money?
They gave bonuses to the people who caused this mess and went on retreats and fancy dinners as a reward.
That's the wrong way to make capitalism and socialism work together.... And when it all happened, what system got the blame?
Socialism for trying to fix the mess free range Capitalism created.
Yet in your eyes, Socialism spreads poor, not wealth?
Right....
I wont dispute that. I find their politics interesting and follow it almost as closely as Canadian politics but ultimately its just an interest. We don't get a vote no matter how much we care about it and have no control on what they do.
Indeed, and Canada has been seeking out trade with many other nations in the last couple of years, such as countries in South America, Asia, the EU and more recently, India.... one other thing Harper gets brownie points from me.
Yeah Canada would suffer if the US economy tanks again... but that's only if Canada doesn't start shopping around and be a bit more wise with global trade, which is happening.
It was supposed to be devastating when the US had it's recession which affected the rest of the world in one way or another, but Canada didn't suffer as much as originally predicted and now with lessons learned, if it happened again, Canada will be more prepared than last time.
"Devastating" is a bit of an extreme argument at best.
I believe the fact that Canada has a such a great rep in the financial world today makes it that much more attractive to countries with whom we seek trade agreements. The stability of our government and currency are other factors in our favor. I believe we will see a free-trade agreement with India in the near future - the PMs pitch was right on. I'm betting that the PMs phone is ringing a lot these days with calls from countries wishing to talk about trade.
Canada has earned a certain cachet among nations of the world.
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Sorry Teddy, but you are wrong. There are many ways of measuring a nation's wealth. GNP is only one way. Access to social services, the level of poverty, various quaility of life indicators such as crime rate, literacy, and so on are others. And Karrie is right about your language. Calling someone an idiot because you happen to disagree with them merely indicates that you have probably run out of intellignet things to say.
BTW Karrie plays in the big leagues - you are not quite there yet. Your comment is very far from game, set and match. You have yet to get the ball across the net.
You still haven't found out why?
I'll tell you why.
Here is why....
Taxation in Norway is levied by the central government, the county municipality (fylkeskommune) and the municipality (kommune). The tax level in Norway is among the highest in the world. In 2009 the total tax revenue was 41.0% of the gross domestic product (GDP). Many direct and indirect taxes exist. The most important taxes—in terms of revenue—are income tax and VAT. Most direct taxes are collected by the Norwegian Tax Administration (Skatteetaten) and most indirect taxes are collected by the Norwegian Customs and Excise Authorities (Toll- og avgiftsetaten).
Still think their Socialist society is funded by oil?