The biggest danger of all is complacency. Brevicks views are not his alone. In fact, I distinctly recall seeing several postings in this very thread that spoke to the same ideologies. Of course that would be before it was revealed who this terrorist was.
You mean like this one?
Reports are that someone dressed as a policeman is randomly shooting people just outside of Oslo right now.
Norway is taking action against a radical Islamic cleric and is involved in the Afghan war. They also reprinted the infamous Mohammed cartoons. So its not a stretch that a radical Muslim extremist is behind the attacks. BTW, I was in Oslo on business just 2 months ago. I was working in the suburbs, but I did stroll around downtown and I recognize the street from the photos.
That and those that support Israel's treatment of the Palestinians like it was their god given right.
What's disturbing is that many on here have the same visceral hatred for Muslims.
Who? And provide quotes please.
Incorrect. From page 1307 of his manifesto:
"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. That makes us Christian."
Sounds like he's using Christianity to justify his crimes, to me.
The right wing ideology seems to be similar to what Hitler wanted, and indeed even what the people in Israel want ... a pure race and culture. In Japan too.
Korea, both North and South. Veitnam, Laos, The list is lengthy, and not really a right wing ideology.
What was Islam up to during the "dark ages"? Sitting around eating figs and getting diarrhea or did they dive head first into sciences, building and music?
As I have said several times. They were at the hight of their renaissance.
So what happened?
Then why do you ride their unoriginal coat tails? Moi doesn't.
Let's hear something original.
Yes, lets. Have you got anything?
The bomb was a distraction, to keep the police busy and out of his way. Building a bomb takes careful planning to get the materials and assembly without being noticed by authorities. He went to all that trouble so that he could go on a 1.5 hour shooting spree without interference. Ya, there were a lot of logistics.
I can make a bomb strong enough to level a decent building, in less than an hour, with materials readily available within a 5 minute drive from my house.
It isn't hard.
The dirty little secret that isn't being heard in Western Media.....
I heard it on CFNY.
Neat office you have.
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Post number 5
My comment was in response to T's post and news reports at the time which speculated this incident might be related to al Qaeda or Islamic extremism. I was not jumping to a conclusion, agreeing with those reports, nor was I even remotely attempting to justify the attack. I used the phrase " its not a stretch that a radical Muslim extremist is behind the attacks". I admit my speculative and cryptic phrase might be difficult to decipher.
So I completely understand why hours later after more reports came in, with the benefit of hindsight, Macho and CB might have might have misinterpreted my posts:
For the benefit of M and C, I'd like to clarify my previous post just for them. I meant to say:
Machjo and CB can kiss my ass.
There I hope that clarifies the meaning of " its not a stretch that a radical Muslim extremist is behind the attacks". I apologize for not being clearer on my meaning.
Easy there EAO, that looks a lot like an insult. Not that it does any good to hide your apology for your assumed Islamic attack.
You can make up all the stories you want, they're as see through as your double standard. You were instantly making excuses for what you thought were an attack by extreme Islam.
This nutcase's ideology regarding Zionism, Israel, Palestinians and the use of violence to achieve objectives are more closely aligned with many Israeli apologists on this forum than with my ideology.
Got any quotes to back that up?
I consistently condemn all violence directed at civilians, regardless of the victims race, religion or nationality. I support non-violent resistance to oppression and injustice.
Except when you make excuses for Islamic violence.
I'm against all these violent crimes. How about you dS?
Like myself, he's against them. The difference is, we don't make up reasons to excuse them.
This really bothers you that this guy was christian and murdered all those kids in the name of Zionism and there is **** all you can say or do to change that.
No, I think it's more like he doesn't like Christianity being blamed enmass, like you don't like Islam being blamed enmass.
Neat how you two have something in common.
I have never expressed support for any act of violence directed innocent civilians. If you believe otherwise, please quote me.
I already did, you ignored the post filled with your own words, then reported it.
I noticed you have never condemned a single act of violence directed at innocent Palestinian civilians, regardless of how outrageous...
I have, but I don't believe everything the media tells me that Israel has done wrong, based on anecdotal evidence. While ignoring all claims of transgressions by the Palestinians, until all evidence is heard in a court of law.
That indicates that you might share many of the same anti-Palestinians hate ideologies as this nutcase in Oslo.
Your insult aside, it's actually a better example of your logic, than anyone elses.
That is because they don't show you the moderates who condemn the actions of the radical fundamentalists.
Feel free to show us than Cliffy.
Those are not news, only the nut jobs are. EAO is right, the media manipulates public opinion.
I agree, EAO's ideology being an excellent example.
A pity for the extreme right who will suffer a huge blow to their cult because of the ongoing investigation.
Who knew unchecked multiculturalism would create blowback, akin to what the west has faced from extreme Islam.
...But when a Muslim commits these crimes he's perfectly sane and was told by his book to commit these crimes.
Partly correct. They're insane, and they use their book to justify it.
Why is it when extreme Islam attacks the west, it's because the west has opressed them. But when some nutter attacks Islam, he's just a Christian right winger, with no justification?
You might like this short interview on Fox which twists this into a story about Islamic terrorism.
There you go, confusing Op/Ed for news again.
The comments were pretty good:
To an extremist perhaps.
Every once and a while, the few loose control of the message. Now is one of those times and you can see them squirm to try to get it back.
What message? Who's squirming?
Likely they will succeed, because in general, people have short attention spans and don't care about how many people die somewhere else, even if our leaders are responsible.
Like yourself? Your focus on Israel, for a combined death toll just under 200,000. Is put in perspective, by the energy you put into demonizing Israel. While you pay mere lip service to Islamic nations causing death tolls in the millions.
This event is one example of where demonizing propaganda leads.
Quite, you're doing a fantastic job.
Newsflash for Colpy,
Muslims are always blamed when a Muslim nutcase commits an atrocity.
Like you blame Israel for anything you can remotely stick to them.
Blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few Muslim nutjobs is a mainstream viewpoint promoted by FoxNews pundits:
Blaming the whole of Israel, for the acts of a few Soldiers, is a viewpoint promoted by Jew haters.
When news of this atrocity broke, Muslims were initially blamed by many American news sources:
And you, right before you went on to make excuses for it.
Also, you should think carefully about your personal perceptions and ideology regarding Muslims and how close your views are to this nutjob in Oslo...
I agree, it exposes so much about you.
I agree that we should not blame groups of people for the actions of individuals, without exceptions... even Muslim exceptions.
Just not "Israeli" exceptions.
As for your comparison of my ideology and that of the monster, I suggest you go **** yourself. No other comment is possible to that particular insult.
That wasn't an insult Colpy. EAO never insults people. Or so he's claimed, ad nauseum.
Ezra, McCondell and praise for the Sun all on the same page.. Hey we might as well make this a Palestine vs. Israel thread since we're already there.
Thanx to the usual suspects.
I think I just vomitted a bit in my mouth.
Stop reading your posts if you don't like it.
Yes, it's an extension of a false dilemma. Canada has all three, with lower rates of terrorism than countries that have only two of the three.
Why is that?
I'm also not a fan of Bernie Farber, but I agree with his statement as quoted by Haroon Siddiqui
You agree with a Zionist?