Arizona's Immigration Law

[ironsides]

Pennsylvania, New York, California (which uses the Colorado river for agriculture and drinking), Florida pretty much everywhere. Arizona wasn't meant to have such a large population anyway, like Colorado and the rest of the Southwest, not enough water to sustain a large population.

back to topic.
Immigrant 'sanctuaries' rouse opponents' wrath

Supporters of Arizona's immigration law say the Obama administration should be going after local jurisdictions that have proclaimed themselves relatively safe places for illegal immigrants.

By David G. Savage, Tribune Washington Bureau


Immigrant 'sanctuaries' rouse opponents' wrath - latimes.com

 

[ironsides]

Here ya go, finally a solution that seems fair and just. We put a couple of these safe crossings on the Canadian Border, and just let them head south if they want.
Anti-Illegal Immigration Group Calls for 'Safe Passage' of Illegals Out of U.S.
An anti-illegal immigration group is calling on the Obama administration to ensure a smooth exit for illegal immigrants who are trying to leave the U.S. due to the weak economy and Arizona's strict new immigration law.
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) is urging U.S. citizens to pressure the White House and the Homeland Security Department to establish "safe departure" border checkpoints along the U.S. border for illegal immigrants so they can leave without fear of being detained or prosecuted for immigration crimes.

FOXNews.com - Anti-Illegal Immigration Group Calls for 'Safe Passage' of Illegals Out of U.S.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

A judge has issues a restraining order and the application of the law is on hold indefinitely. Now it will work its way through courts, it may take years to settle the question as to whether the law is constitutional.

 

[ironsides]

In a decision that could lay the groundwork for an Arizona-style immigration policy, Virginia's attorney general said state law enforcement officers are allowed to check the [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]immigration [COLOR=blue !important]status[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] of anyone "stopped or arrested."

FOXNews.com - Virginia Attorney General Rules Police Can Check Immigration Status



PHOENIX - He's been at the center of the discussions and controversies surrounding illegal immigration enforcement in Arizona for quite a while.
On the day parts of Arizona's immigration law, SB 1070, went into effect, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is in the news for another reason: there's a price on his head - allegedly offered by a Mexican drug cartel.

Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

 

[ironsides]

GOOD EXPLANATION.
The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's new immigration laws.



Arizona 's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law:



"What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying?



What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected.



Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?"



- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer

 

[Highball]

Now the states of Kansas, Idaho and Iowa are talking within their state legislatures about joining in support of Arizona in this question in the US Federal Courts. Before this matter is seriously addressed there will be a lot more turmoil that could be avoided if the US Congress actually did their job.

 

[EagleSmack]

Now the states of Kansas, Idaho and Iowa are talking within their state legislatures about joining in support of Arizona in this question in the US Federal Courts. Before this matter is seriously addressed there will be a lot more turmoil that could be avoided if the US Congress actually did their job.

And the US Govt response...

"It is up to the Federal Government to enforce the Federal Laws, not the state. However we will not enforce those laws... but you can't either"

 

[captain morgan]

I see that the feds also have no problem enforcing the immigration laws either... Ya gotta wonder why they have them at all.

 

[TenPenny]

Well, I just spent a week in Arizona. Me, I wouldn't give the locals the discretion to enforce a no smoking rule. A reasonable proportion of the people I met there were ignorant, rude, stupid, beligerent, nasty, and otherwise unpleasant. Sure, there were lots of nice people there, too. But if the security people we met were examples of the typical law enforcement guys, I don't think I'd give them the ability to enforce these laws, they can't be trusted.

 

[JLM]

Well, I just spent a week in Arizona. Me, I wouldn't give the locals the discretion to enforce a no smoking rule. A reasonable proportion of the people I met there were ignorant, rude, stupid, beligerent, nasty, and otherwise unpleasant. Sure, there were lots of nice people there, too. But if the security people we met were examples of the typical law enforcement guys, I don't think I'd give them the ability to enforce these laws, they can't be trusted.

I've been told that when you go to a new place, what you see is very often the reflection of what they see. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[YukonJack]

TenPenny opined:

"Well, I just spent a week in Arizona. Me, I wouldn't give the locals the discretion to enforce a no smoking rule. A reasonable proportion of the people I met there were ignorant, rude, stupid, beligerent, nasty, and otherwise unpleasant. Sure, there were lots of nice people there, too. But if the security people we met were examples of the typical law enforcement guys, I don't think I'd give them the ability to enforce these laws, they can't be trusted."

I spent several winters in Green Valley, Arizona. And I mean not just one week, but at least two months.

The most obnoxious, rude, ignorant, nasty, belligerant and otherwise nasty and unpleasant people I met were the ones who kept yakking in pigeon-Spanish when it was clear that nobody else culd understand their lingo, those who yelled - in Spanish - when I left the restaurant leaving only a 15% tip, the same ones who would lock up and torture illegal immigrants to their country, who were rude and unpleasant.

Strangely, the rude and ignorant ones all had an accent.

 

[Curiosity]

Question

Why do governments withhold the information to the public about the actual annual cost per family/household in the United States to house the undocumented, to educate their children, to keep them in good health, and how many jobs were being paid with cash and nothing contributed to the public purse...while citizens had to wait for job openings which never come......etc. etc.

I think if the actual price per family was made common knowledge the people might be in a better position to weigh what exactly they were willing to accept and/or reject.

What people are very good at is reducing all issues to the common denominator which affects all people living within our borders in the U.S.A. - what we will have to
pay and for how long.

 

[EagleSmack]

Years ago, INS raided meat packing plants all over the midwest. They were jam packed with illegal aliens working for cash. This forced those companies to replace their work force with citizens and legal immigrants and the lines were out the door with people looking to fill those jobs.

There went the old...

"Illegals are just doing jobs that Americans are unwilling to do"

...out the window.

 

[YukonJack]

Looks like other States are contemplating following the example set by Arizona.

Florida pushes for Arizona-style law

If the Federal authorities did their job, it would not be necessary.

 

[ironsides]

another oops

 

[ironsides]

Lets have a little fun.

Ray Stevens - Come to the USA

YouTube - Ray Stevens - Come to the USA

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm just waiting for Ray to have one on the mosque:lol::lol:

 

[ironsides]

Missouri 's approach to the problem of illegal immigration

http://www.ozarkssentinel.com/missouri-ahead-of-the-game-in-dealing-with-illegal-immigrants-p1034.htm

Missouri 's approach to the problem of illegal immigration appears to be more advanced, sophisticated, strict and effective than anything to date in Arizona . Do the loonies in San Francisco , or the White House, appreciate what Missouri has done? When are our fearless President and his dynamic Attorney General going to take action to require Missouri start accepting illegal immigrants once again?


So, why doesn't Missouri receive attention?

Answer: There are no Mexican illegals in Missouri to demonstrate.

 

[Nuggler]

Lets have a little fun.

Ray Stevens - Come to the USA

YouTube - Ray Stevens - Come to the USA

Good one, Ironsides.

:stop:, yer killin me!!:toothy7:

Ees varry serius problemo.

Enterpreeenoor what i is, i'm a headin to Sir Lanka there, and rent out rowboats.

only 10,000 $, cdn. per pop. Motor extry.

Lookout Stevo, here they cometh.,:blob5:

Anyone out there in Van. got some rooms to rent. Govt. is payin. Well, that's us, but let's not put too fine a point on it.:toothy3:

 

[damngrumpy]

It is funny, more and more the United States is enacting laws and
demonstrating the very actions they went to fight against in WWII.
What happens when the first Hispanic speaking citizens are then
deported to Mexico, only to find out they violated an American
citizens rights. This is a bad law period. No I am not on the side
of the illegal immigrant, I think all 12 to 15 million should be deported
The problem is there are a lot of people who are Americans but by
race they will be pointed out for special treatment. The last time
that was done it was with a yellow star of David.
In a democracy the will of the majority is the rule, but for those who
forget, in a constitutional democracy the will of the minority is to be
respected.
I am sure that at some time, this law will be found unconstitutional.
This is a sad day for democracy, and a great day for those who
believe there is a short cut to doing the right thing.