Are you looking for proof that God exists?
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Science may not be looking for god but I think it has been looking at god without realizing it. When I look at an atomic structure, I see planetary systems and when I look at galaxies, I see something akin to molecular structures. I think the Universe is self creating and quite possibly a conscious, sentient being, the magnitude is so far beyond human comprehension that all one can say about it is that it just is. I think that is what god is, not some separate entity that created humans for its own entertainment. Humans are like quarks on an electron amongst an infinite number of electrons (numbers so big that it is impossible to imagine).
I see the biosphere as a living organism of which we are a small part. I think that organism has consciousness and that is far beyond our ability to comprehend with our finite capabilities. Hell, we can't even understand ourselves, so how people think they can comprehend the all that is, is completely ludicrous. But some people can't handle being insignificant and so have to invent a god that cares about them.
Good because it can't find it's as$ with both hands.
Cliff. Ya nailed it. It's like looking for a flashlight in the dark using the flashlight you're looking for it with.
"Who is Manitou?" an Algonquin chant asks. "He that goeth with the Serpent"--the god who lives with and tames the lower self. The widespread use of such terms as Manitou, Mana and Manna to indicate a spirit power in man and things is indicative of much. The words connote "magical power" as believed to be possessed by every tribal medicine-man. The probability is that the term is of kindred root with the word "man" itself, and Manas (Sanskrit), "mind." For mind constitutes man what he is, and it is the mind principle in man that was sent precisely for the purpose of charming the animal propensities into culture. A "mantram" is a Vedic word for a magical incantation. The god’s action upon the brute self was likened to a charming, and the word "charm" is itself from the stem that gives us "Christ" and "Eucharist" and "charity." For the god to "charm" the beast was to lull the animal nature to docility, the while it lent ear to the sweet strains of a higher melody which transformed it magically.
The great potent serpent-charmer is mind, thought. Man is the thinking magician, rendering impotent the baleful sting of the serpent. The Christos tramples underfoot the serpents and scorpions, whose lethal sting endangers him.http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm
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Manitou.....great idea. A weekend at the spa with my woman would be stellar.
Manitou Springs Resort Hotel & Mineral Spa, Manitou Beach, Saskatchewan, Canada, the Dead Sea of Canada, Canadian Dead Sea
Manitou Springs Resort Hotel & Mineral Spa, Manitou Beach, Saskatchewan, Canada, the Dead Sea of Canada, Canadian Dead Sea
You are a stubborn man Sinister, even Hawkings in his twilight has recanted and confessed the error of his ways. I pray that someday the God of light and life makes itself known to you and you finally find rest for your troubled mind and your muddled thinking is lifted like the veil it is.
They seek the binding power of the universe but refuse to call it God even when it's attributes are identical with what the ancients reasoned out thousands of years ago. It is the very same quest and it is eternally the thinking humans business. Clearly it is stressed over and over again not to kneel before any false particles (material) only the light is holy.
It looks way to healthy for me.
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I live in The Valley of the Hot Springs. Those are two commercial ones, but we also have some "wild" natural hot springs too. They are one of the main reasons I moved here, that and the best motorcycle roads in the world.
I have some questions for the god botherers: Do you give any thought to the quark on the electrons on one of the atoms in your body? Do you think a quark in your body has any way to comprehend the entirety of you body? Do you think it is capable of being conscious of the entirety of your body? Do you really think you can comprehend the infinite? God is an abstract belief in your world view. It has no basis in any reality and your book is a collection of abstract thoughts laid down thousands of years ago by people who could not possibly have been capable of anything else but abstract thoughts on the incomprehensible. The bible is the results of mental masturbation by primitive peoples. Why do you believe it is something it is not?
Dexter Sinister, remember, is from the Latin for Right Left. I'm a pragmatic right and left winger, supporting whatever ideas seem correct to me regardless of where they fall on any artificial political spectrum.
Only in the sense that I'm interested in knowing what's true.
Quarks are mental masterbation by today;s primitive particle fizzisists, an intellectual candidate for their all powerful material god.
I posted the Manitou (He that goeth with the serpent) for you earlier today, and that is just a sample of the similarity with the ancient Egyptian wisdom. Most of the old spiritual themes were universally observed at one time not so long ago.
We've heard that space plasma is "neutral." Doesn't that mean it can't conduct currents?
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No. Plasma is quasi-neutral, meaning it has approximately the same number of positive charges (protons or +ions) in a given volume as it has unbound negative charges (electrons) in the same volume. Since its charges are free to move independently, unlike in neutral atoms, plasma is referred to as quasi-neutral to reduce confusion.
However, quasi-neutral and nonconductive are not synonymous. Neutrality has to do with the relative proportion of positive and negative charges in a given volume. Conductivity has to do with the freedom of the charge carriers in a medium and the ease with which an electric current can flow through it.
In a plasma, the charge carriers are able to move freely and thus the conductivity of plasmas can be extremely high.
Metaphor, dude. Metaphor. I used quarks because, so far, it is the smallest thing in quantum theory that I know. I also say we are the Who that Horton hears. I understand that you are a deep thinker but remember this, enlightenment does not come to those who take things too seriously. Enlightenment is lightness of spirit. Or as my late best friend once said, "Life is but a joke and the joke is on you." People who take life seriously will just have to repeat the journey until they learn to "lighten up, eh!"
CLiffy, you are the one that is going to be bothered when standing before the judgement with your notions, trinkets, idols, quarks, blasphemes and "knowledge". You will come to instruct God but will be rudely awakened.
The Lord confides in those who revere him; he makes his covenant known to them - Humility goes a long way for getting to know the Lord. He can be known. We don't have to be stuck with our thoughts and our ways. There is better out there.
He guides the humble in what is right and teaches them his way.
As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’” Now or later, everyone will confess the truth. The ONE truth.
There is a passage in Ecclesiastes that sums that up to a T. I'm no thumper so that's all you'll get from me unless you ask to read it for yourself.
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