April Fools!! Here's your Carbon Tax F#ckers!!!

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Next week Saskatchewan is arguing against the Trudeau Carbon Tax in the Supreme Court of Canada.

We believe the Carbon Tax is not only wrong, but completely unconstitutional.

The Trudeau government is trying to force their money-grabbing tax scheme on provinces like Saskatchewan to shut down our oil & gas sector.

And guess who supports the Trudeau carbon tax? Ryan Meili and the NDP.

Premier Scott Moe and the Saskatchewan Party know the Trudeau carbon tax is nothing but a tax grab that won’t do anything to protect the environment.

Tell us what YOU think and whether you support our Supreme Court Case against the Trudeau-NDP Carbon Tax HERE.

Sincerely,

Scott Moe
Leader
Saskatchewan Party
 
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Ron in Regina

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My reference here last week to the throne speech containing a declaration of war on the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan and on the petroleum industry of Canada (with a partial reprieve for eastern Canadian offshore oil) might have seemed an exaggeration. But it was a reasonable interpretation of what Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on the subject in 2017: “You can’t make a choice between what’s good for the environment and what’s good for the economy. We can’t shut down the oilsands tomorrow. We need to phase them out.He said the following day that he had “misspoke,” but did not retract or even alter that position; he only stated that he should have worded it more carefully, presumably to disguise its meaning. In the intervening period of nearly four years, his government has pursued the systematic destruction of the western petroleum industry, which the throne speech reaffirmed, although instead of specifically enunciating that goal, the federal government is pursuing it through four parallel channels of public policy.

LINK: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-trudeaus-environmental-policies-threaten-canada-itself

It has been an efficient and skilfully executed assault, and it has largely been conducted behind a facade of the familiar truckling to the broad concept of Indigenous rights, in a way that steadily approaches the implicit concession that the regime established by all those who came to this country after the Indigenous people is afflicted by compromised rights and legitimacy. The Trudeaus have come full circle: 50 years ago, Pierre Trudeau expressed his intention to consolidate what was called Indian Affairs into the welfare system, and his son is dealing “nation to nation” with all of the hundreds of tribes and bands of Indigenous peoples within this country. It may temporarily be an effective tactic for disguising the government’s environmental ambitions, but it is empowering a Frankenstein monster of Native litigious aggression that will rampage through the country until the sovereignty of Canada is justly reasserted. We are approaching what Cardinal Richelieu called, in reference to the Huguenots, “a state within the state.”

Some of the officials who were chiefly complicit in Ontario’s colossal energy and environment fiasco produced by the McGuinty-Wynne regime (2003-2018), which accomplished the economic miracle of the relative self-impoverishment of one of the world’s wealthiest jurisdictions, fled from Toronto to Ottawa and are now toiling like happy little elves producing similarly inspired policy for the whole country on four different fronts. They are convinced that the whole world is threatened by climate change generated by the activities of man, and which it is Canada’s exalted destiny to combat with such vigour and ingenuity that it leads the world to salvation from the consequences of its base materialist ambitions. It would be noble if the premise was correct. There is grossly insufficient evidence to support the government’s assumptions about climate change. But it must be admitted that in its perverse preconceptions and ambitious objectives, there is a concept of national grandeur as well as strategic execution. I have urged the pursuit of a national policy that would raise Canada’s prestige and influence in the world and must salute the ambition. Unfortunately, our knowledge of the climate is not remotely adequate to justify such a vast enterprise and the assault on the petroleum industry is not just a self-administered amputation of much of Canada’s prosperity, it is an inadvertent attempt to commit national suicide.

The government’s four avenues toward its goals are regulation and legislation, the incorporation into Canadian law of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People (UNDRIP), the imposition of what are called “clean fuel standards” and the expansion of protected and conserved areas, in concert with delivering control of much of this area entirely into the hands of Indigenous groups exercising quasi-autonomous control. This co-ordinated effort is being carried out principally by the ministries of environment and climate change, of natural resources and by the Prime Minister’s Office. The presence of the relatively sensible (and very affable) Seamus O’Regan as natural resources minister may be taken as a reassuring gesture of moderation.

Regulation and legislation include the cancellation of the fully authorized Northern Gateway Pipeline, the indefinite delay of the expansion of the Trans Mountain Pipeline, the disbanding of the National Energy Board and its replacement by the Canadian Energy Regulator and the Impact Assessment Agency, which facilitates unlimited interventions even by disinterested parties and by foreigners acting on conceptual or philosophical motives. The enabling legislation for this was described by Alberta Premier Jason Kenney as the “no-pipelines bill.” The federal government also banned oil tanker traffic off the West Coast (Bill C-48, an outright effort to landlock western Canadian oil, and by imposing absurd delays it forced TC Energy to relinquish its Energy East project. Canada continues to be a large oil importer despite having an oil surplus — we are a national chump. UNDRIP, when adopted, will cause Canadian courts to require the “free, prior informed consent” of Indigenous peoples in many more aspects of energy transmission. Clean fuel standards will reduce carbon emissions in the activity of a producing carbon emissions and is a method of gradually strangling carbon use. The expansion of protected and conserved areas will take place in the framework of the federal government goal’s of having 17 per cent of Canada’s landmass and of its waters in such areas by the end of this year, as part of this government’s commitment to the United Nations convention on biodiversity. This program includes designated National Wildlife Areas on federal government land.

The flavour of the resulting administration may be grasped from the stipulations in Section 3 of the Wildlife Area Regulations that, “No person shall hunt or fish, be in possession of any firearm, slingshot, bow and arrow, or any instrument that could be used for the purpose of hunting, or lead fishing sinkers. No one shall damage or remove a plant, carry on any agricultural activity, allow any domestic animal to run at large, swim, picnic, camp or engage in other recreational activity or light a fire, operate a conveyance, remove, deface or damage any artifact, natural object, building, fence, poster, sign, or carry on any commercial or industrial activity, disturb or remove any soil, sand, gravel or other material, unless authorized by the minister.” (Breathing and speaking in a low voice are permissible.) Among these National Wildlife Areas are Indigenous protected and conserved areas, which are governed by Indigenous people committed to conservation and in which Indigenous rights and responsibilities are entrenched.

Each of these four policy areas is apparently independent and is presented as a distinctive approach toward a desirable objective. But they are in fact co-ordinated and intended to exterminate the petroleum industry. Not only is the climate change goal a wild surmise, but this is an attempt to throttle Canada’s greatest industry and its most reliable growth resource, and wilfully crush the employers that millions of Canadians rely on. If this goes ahead as planned, the separatist movement in Alberta and Saskatchewan will grow, and could spread to all the western provinces. The purpose of the federal government is to preserve and strengthen the country; it is playing with dynamite with a carelessness for which there is no precedent in the history of Canada.
 

Ron in Regina

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"I know you said No!...but...we'll only do you $20/ton the first year. Call it the Carbon Tax Tip...."

"Then once you get use to that (You know you want it!) we'll give it a bit more..."

"Then we'll sit back & bask in the afterglow, and you'll get over it, and you might even get to like it...."
The final match-up in the carbon playoffs will now play out over two days in Ottawa. Starting on Tuesday, Saskatchewan lawyers will try to convince the nation’s highest court to strike down what they call an unconstitutional tax that risks destabilizing the federation. http://leaderpost.com/news/saskatchewan/saskatchewans-carbon-tax-case-at-supreme-court-today

Speaking in Saskatoon on Monday, provincial Justice Minister Don Morgan said his lawyers have refined their arguments in response to rulings from appeal courts for Saskatchewan, Ontario and Alberta. The first two sided with Ottawa. But Alberta’s highest court faulted the federal regime as a “constitutional trojan horse” that would “forever alter the constitutional balance.”

Morgan is hoping the Supreme Court of Canada will say the same. He called the federal carbon price “significant overreach on the part of the federal government.” At its core, the case is about a single piece of legislation — the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act — which sets out what the provincial government calls a “carbon tax” and what the federal government calls a “price on pollution.” Saskatchewan and its allies have argued that the carbon pricing regime, or at least the fuel charge, is a tax. In their view, it’s unconstitutional to apply a tax to only some provinces, depending on how they choose to exercise their own jurisdiction.
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Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna lied to Canadians,” Moe said in a statement Friday. “Just before the last election they vowed that they would not raise the carbon tax. Trudeau has now announced that the carbon tax will be jacked up nearly six times what it is today by 2030.”

McKenna, the former federal environment minister, said in August 2019 that the federal government had “no intention” of increasing the carbon price beyond the $50 per tonne already set out for 2022. She said any further decision would come after consultation with the provinces. The premier cited a headline based on those comments. He said the federal government hasn’t consulted Saskatchewan about the new plan, released on Friday, to increase the carbon tax by increments of $15 per tonne every year from 2023 to 2030.

But McKenna’s successor, federal Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson, rejected any notion that the federal government was or is being dishonest about its carbon approach. He said the new plan is just a proposal. Consultations with the provinces are ahead. Canada’s environment minister said Scott Moe sounds like a “climate skeptic,” after the premier accused Ottawa of lying by unveiling a plan to hike the carbon tax to $170 per tonne of emissions by the end of the decade. But Moe wasn’t the only Saskatchewan politician to criticize Wilkinson’s proposal. In a rare case of bipartisan consensus, NDP Leader Ryan Meili also saw federal flip-flopping. “Saying one thing and doing another, it’s not really cool,” Meili said. He said the proposed carbon pricing hike will make life tougher for ordinary people. “I think people are really struggling right now across Canada, and adding another cost that’s going to hit consumers right now is really the wrong approach,” said Meili.

Moe said the “massive increase” revealed on Friday comes at the worst possible time, adding new costs amid economic uncertainty, even though it won’t change anything until 2023. The focus of climate action should be on technology and innovation, in Moe’s view, rather than “a single carbon tax that will increase the cost of everything.” http://leaderpost.com/news/saskatchewan/insults-fly-as-moe-condemns-170-per-tonne-carbon-tax-plan

Moe said Saskatchewan “will continue fighting this ineffective and unconstitutional carbon tax.” The province took its arguments to the Supreme Court of Canada in September to challenge the tax. It is still awaiting a decision. But Wilkinson said carbon pricing isn’t going anywhere, even if Saskatchewan’s constitutional challenge succeeds.
 

Ron in Regina

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SaskPower customers will be paying more starting Jan. 1 as a result of an increase in the federal carbon tax.

The Crown corporation said Thursday it will be increasing the carbon tax amount on customers’ bills because the federal carbon tax applied to SaskPower’s carbon emissions is to rise from $30 to $40 per tonne on New Year’s Day.

“Our government recently implemented the 10 per cent Saskatchewan Economic Recovery Rebate on power bills, and I’m pleased to announce SaskPower will not pursue a rate increase in 2021,” Don Morgan, the minister responsible for SaskPower, said in a media release. “However, SaskPower customers will soon see a higher number on one part of their bill because of the increased federal carbon tax.”

SaskPower said the amount charged to each customer under the carbon tax will vary depending on consumption. It didn’t provide a range of the possible increases customers could face.

SaskPower started collecting the carbon tax from its customers in April of 2019 (April Fools Day Actually). Annual increases in the tax are planned by the federal government until the figure reaches $170 per tonne by 2030.

The Saskatchewan government has challenged the constitutionality of the carbon tax in court. The Supreme Court of Canada heard the case in September, but has yet to render its decision. In the interim, SaskPower has to collect the carbon tax. More details about the tax’s impact on SaskPower bills can be found here.
 

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A Conservative MP from Regina is blaming the federal Liberal government for layoffs at Evraz Steel in Regina. http://www.cjme.com/2020/12/17/conservative-mp-blames-evraz-layoffs-on-liberal-government/ As of Thursday, 591 employees in the tubular division were laid off indefinitely.

Regina-Lewvan MP Warren Steinley lays the blame squarely on the federal government. He believes Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberal Party has implemented anti-energy policies which make it more difficult to go forward with the projects for which Evraz supplies steel. “We’ve had conversations with the union and the management. They make pipe, but both of them will say they’re an oil and gas company,” Steinley told Gormley on Thursday.

Steinley laid out a list of several projects that have been cancelled or delayed — including the Saguenay LNG project in Quebec and the Tech Frontier Mine in Alberta — for which Evraz could have supplied the steel.

“Right now, we have a prime minister who has been committed to phasing out the oilsands and the energy sector. It looks like that’s the only promise he might keep,” Steinley said. He pointed the finger at policies like Bills C-48 and C-69, as well as the federal carbon tax. “I think this government has continued to gut punch the energy sector …,” Steinley said. “We’re standing with (the union and the workers). I think we’re the only voice that they have.”
 

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Benefits of Trudeau's carbon tax challenged in new report​


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Jan 06, 2021

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s claim that middle-class Canadians will end up with more money in their pockets due to the federal Climate Action Incentive program is being challenged by a new report.

Figures show Canadians actually paid millions more in carbon taxes than they got in Climate Action Incentive rebates, according to Blacklock’s Reporter.

The first-ever annual carbon tax revenue report says tax collections were as much as 21% higher than rebates paid to taxpayers in four provinces — Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick — that refused to introduce their own fuel charges under the act.

The Department of Environment claims over time the difference should correct itself.

“As actual proceeds and the total amount of proceeds returned in a specific jurisdiction through Climate Action Incentive payments may differ from estimates, adjustments will be made,” said the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Annual Report For 2019.

The report says a total $454.9 million in taxes were raised but the money never made their way back into households.

Instead, New Brunswick, Ontario, Manitoba and Saskatchewan residents paid 21 %, 20%, 19% and 9% more, respectively, in taxes than they received in rebates.

The federal finance department has yet to release numbers that support Trudeau’s claim and the Canada Revenue Agency has withheld Access To Information records about how many tax filers in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and New Brunswick actually received rebates.

The Canadian Chamber of Commerce, who are critical of the carbon tax, have also disputed the rebate claim.

“It’s not going to play out evenly across the board and that is the problem,” Aaron Henry, director of environmental policy for the Chamber, said in an earlier interview.

“Consumers will pay more for energy,” wrote Chamber staff in a 2019 report.
 

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Carbone neutral and 2030 won't just be the death of post national Canada, but also in the process, many of the people in it will get slabbed too.
 

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Benefits of Trudeau's carbon tax challenged in new report​


Postmedia News

Jan 06, 2021

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s claim that middle-class Canadians will end up with more money in their pockets due to the federal Climate Action Incentive program is being challenged by a new report.

Figures show Canadians actually paid millions more in carbon taxes than they got in Climate Action Incentive rebates, according to Blacklock’s Reporter.

The first-ever annual carbon tax revenue report says tax collections were as much as 21% higher than rebates paid to taxpayers in four provinces — Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick — that refused to introduce their own fuel charges under the act.

The Department of Environment claims over time the difference should correct itself.

“As actual proceeds and the total amount of proceeds returned in a specific jurisdiction through Climate Action Incentive payments may differ from estimates, adjustments will be made,” said the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Annual Report For 2019.

The report says a total $454.9 million in taxes were raised but the money never made their way back into households.

Instead, New Brunswick, Ontario, Manitoba and Saskatchewan residents paid 21 %, 20%, 19% and 9% more, respectively, in taxes than they received in rebates.

The federal finance department has yet to release numbers that support Trudeau’s claim and the Canada Revenue Agency has withheld Access To Information records about how many tax filers in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and New Brunswick actually received rebates.

The Canadian Chamber of Commerce, who are critical of the carbon tax, have also disputed the rebate claim.

“It’s not going to play out evenly across the board and that is the problem,” Aaron Henry, director of environmental policy for the Chamber, said in an earlier interview.

“Consumers will pay more for energy,” wrote Chamber staff in a 2019 report.
Returns were readjusted after Carbon credits were bought from Africa
 

Ron in Regina

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Another April Fools Day goes by with another increase of 33% in the Carbon Tax along with an increase in MP's salaries all during a pandemic with the economy taking a shit-kicking and Trudeau doling out our tax money campaign style to purchase votes from the gullible & stupid with their own money.
 

Ron in Regina

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government last week arbitrarily rejected a plan by Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe to reduce the impact of carbon pricing on his residents by reducing provincial fuel taxes. http://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-pms-climate-policies-unfair

The premier’s issue is that New Brunswick and P.E.I. were permitted to do the same thing by the federal government. As Moe tweeted in response to the federal rejection, “The Trudeau government cannot have one standard for the east and another for the west …"

The decision to reject our province’s plan can only be viewed as arbitrary and political, further showcasing how out of touch the federal government is with Saskatchewan’s major contributions in reducing emissions at home and abroad.” Federal Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson said, as the Trudeau government has previously announced, that Ottawa will be renegotiating with all the provinces regarding their carbon pricing schemes with a view to implementing reforms in 2023, so there will be no changes until then.

But a skeptic would say Saskatchewan is being arbitrarily singled out for punishment because it was one of the three provinces, along with Ontario and Alberta, that challenged Trudeau’s carbon tax in court, eventually losing at the Supreme Court of Canada. Whatever Ottawa’s motives here, treating a western province differently from eastern provinces on carbon taxes is another unwelcome strain on national unity, already under stress because of the anger in Alberta over Trudeau’s carbon pricing policies and energy policies.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau holds a press conference on the airline industry in Montreal, Quebec on July 15, 2021.


Whatever Ottawa’s motives here, treating a western province differently from eastern provinces on carbon taxes is another unwelcome strain on national unity, already under stress because of the anger in Alberta over Trudeau’s carbon pricing policies and energy policies. In addition, federal complaints that lowering provincial fuel taxes to offset rising carbon taxes reduces the effectiveness of carbon pricing in reducing greenhouse gas emissions are hypocritical. Federal rebates to offset the increased costs of carbon pricing to taxpayers and consumers are intrinsic to Trudeau’s carbon tax scheme.

Those rebates apply in four provinces where Trudeau imposed his carbon tax — Ontario, Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan —arguably another reason the feds rejected Saskatchewan’s proposal.

The larger issue raised by the federal-Saskatchewan dispute is that under the Trudeau government, there is a hodge-podge of different and little-understood carbon pricing schemes across the country, in which the provinces and their citizens are being treated differently by Ottawa.

Meanwhile, the only “solution” the Trudeau government offers — if re-elected — is future negotiations with the provinces, unlikely to fix these inequities. So, if Justin Trudeau calls an election 2&1/2yrs early based upon the polls, at great expence to the Canadian taxpayer, on the tail of a pandemic, and people are stupid enough to vote him and his scandal ridden entitled cabinet back in for a third time.....he can hold court like a monarch over Western Canada after using them again as a wedge to further divide Canada for votes.
 
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A carbon tax is an indirect tax- a transaction tax - as opposed to a direct tax, which taxes income. The carbon tax is a pricing tool because it puts a price on carbon dioxide emissions. This is the only way for carbon fuel consumers to pay for the climate damage caused by carbon dioxide emissions. But don't get upset; I think the tax obviously won't be much. And besides, you just need to keep everything under your control and learn spammy spam spam spam and look at everything more accessible) I also encountered this but did not get upset. I am already somehow used to all these nuances. Good mood and fewer taxes in life. haha
 
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A carbon tax is an indirect tax- a transaction tax - as opposed to a direct tax, which taxes income. The carbon tax is a pricing tool because it puts a price on carbon dioxide emissions. This is the only way for carbon fuel consumers to pay for the climate damage caused by carbon dioxide emissions. But don't get upset; I think the tax obviously won't be much. And besides, you just need to keep everything under your control and learn spam make spammy spam spam and look at everything more accessible) I also encountered this but did not get upset. I am already somehow used to all these nuances. Good mood and fewer taxes in life. haha
Oh OK like the gst isn't a tax gotcha
 
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A carbon tax is an indirect tax- a transaction tax - as opposed to a direct tax, which taxes income. The carbon tax is a pricing tool because it puts a price on carbon dioxide emissions. This is the only way for carbon fuel consumers to pay for the climate damage caused by carbon dioxide emissions. But don't get upset; I think the tax obviously won't be much. And besides, you just need to keep everything under your control and learn how to make check stubs online and look at everything more accessible) I also encountered this but did not get upset. I am already somehow used to all these nuances. Good mood and fewer taxes in life. haha
1) The carbon tax is a scam.
2) CO2 isn't causing globull warming.
3) Low-income people get a rebate on their carbon scam tax, based on income not carbon used, proving it is a wealth transfer tax not a pricing tool.
 
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The scary part of this carbon tax is on what you use to heat your home. The gasoline tax you can modify your behaviour somewhat but how do you not heat your home in winter in Canada? What behaviour to you modify on that front???

We have a new 95% efficient furnace using natural gas…what do I change?
 
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The scary part of this carbon tax is on what you use to heat your home. The gasoline tax you can modify your behaviour somewhat but how do you not heat your home in winter in Canada? What behaviour to you modify on that front???

We have a new 95% efficient furnace using natural gas…what do I change?
But the kicker is , how can we reduce emissions while growing our population through immigration ?
 
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