Anonymous threatens cyber crusade against Israel
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It makes sense that this group would oppose a state born by ethnic cleansing which displaced hundreds of thousands. The Zionist State of Israel awards rights based on religion. This regime is the root cause of many global conflicts and I'm not surprised that Israel has their attention.
Just like me,they oppose Zionism's unfairness, injustice and oppression. Just like Anonymous, I am not against Judaism.
In anticipation of the predictable attacks which link opposition to war criminals who currently rule Israel with antisemitism, I'd like to point to out that many Jews also oppose Zionism for the same reasons as Anonymous and I.
Jews Against Zionism is a group for Jews and others opposed to the Zionist movement and ideology, and to its impact on both Palestinians and Jews. This is not a religious group, not a racist hate group, and not a conspiracy-theory group. JAZ is a political group, committed to coexistence between Palestinians and Israeli Jews. We believe that the conflict in Palestine cannot be resolved without a return of Palestinian refugees and dismantlement of the Zionist structure of the state of Israel - and that this is impossible in the context of two states and a re-partition of Palestine. We advocate the only approach which can lead to peace with justice in the region: we call for a unitary, secular and democratic Palestine, the return of Palestinian refugees, and full and equal rights for Palestinians, Israeli Jews, and all other people living in the whole of Palestine.
Jews Against Zionism |
I agree with Jews against Zionism:
BTW, Anonymous shut down the CIA website for 4 hours last week.
A note to any Jewish person reading this. People who always side with the government aren't reliable friends. The people who helped Jews during the holocaust opposed their governments. Most who helped were motivated by a sense of fairness and a desire that everyone deserves justice and freedom. Anonymous has far more in common with the people who helped Jews escape Nazi Europe than the people who will inevitably post antisemitic accusations against me.
It makes sense that this group would oppose a state born by ethnic cleansing which displaced hundreds of thousands. The Zionist State of Israel awards rights based on religion. This regime is the root cause of many global conflicts and I'm not surprised that Israel has their attention.
Just like me,they oppose Zionism's unfairness, injustice and oppression. Just like Anonymous, I am not against Judaism.
In anticipation of the predictable attacks which link opposition to war criminals who currently rule Israel with antisemitism, I'd like to point to out that many Jews also oppose Zionism for the same reasons as Anonymous and I.
Jews Against Zionism is a group for Jews and others opposed to the Zionist movement and ideology, and to its impact on both Palestinians and Jews. This is not a religious group, not a racist hate group, and not a conspiracy-theory group. JAZ is a political group, committed to coexistence between Palestinians and Israeli Jews. We believe that the conflict in Palestine cannot be resolved without a return of Palestinian refugees and dismantlement of the Zionist structure of the state of Israel - and that this is impossible in the context of two states and a re-partition of Palestine. We advocate the only approach which can lead to peace with justice in the region: we call for a unitary, secular and democratic Palestine, the return of Palestinian refugees, and full and equal rights for Palestinians, Israeli Jews, and all other people living in the whole of Palestine.
Jews Against Zionism |
I agree with Jews against Zionism:
BTW, Anonymous shut down the CIA website for 4 hours last week.
A note to any Jewish person reading this. People who always side with the government aren't reliable friends. The people who helped Jews during the holocaust opposed their governments. Most who helped were motivated by a sense of fairness and a desire that everyone deserves justice and freedom. Anonymous has far more in common with the people who helped Jews escape Nazi Europe than the people who will inevitably post antisemitic accusations against me.
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Knowledge is power.
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories:
A ceasefire between Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups agreed in January 2009 was generally respected. The Israeli army maintained draconian controls on the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), including a blockade on the Gaza Strip that deepened hardship and virtually imprisoned the entire population of 1.5 million. The Israeli authorities rejected or delayed applications for permits to leave Gaza submitted by hundreds of Palestinians requiring specialist medical treatment; a few died as a result. Most of Gaza’s inhabitants depended on international aid, which was severely hampered by the blockade. In May, Israeli forces killed nine men aboard an aid flotilla in international waters that was aiming to breach the blockade. In the West Bank, the movement of Palestinians was severely curtailed by hundreds of Israeli checkpoints and barriers, and by the 700km fence/wall that Israel continued to build mostly inside the West Bank. There was a substantial increase in the number of demolitions by Israeli authorities of Palestinian homes, water cisterns and other structures in the West Bank, affecting thousands of people. Israeli authorities also destroyed homes in Bedouin villages in the south of Israel. The expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on seized Palestinian land, partially frozen until 26 September, resumed. Israel still did not conduct adequate investigations into alleged war crimes and other serious violations of international law by its forces during Operation “Cast Lead”, the 22-day offensive in Gaza in December 2008/January 2009, during which nearly 1,400 Palestinians, including more than 300 children, were killed. Israeli soldiers and settlers who committed serious abuses against Palestinians, including unlawful killings, assaults and attacks against property, were generally not held to account for their crimes. Israeli military forces killed 33 Palestinian civilians in the OPT, including eight children. Hundreds of Palestinians were arrested and detained by Israeli forces; at least 264 were held without charge or trial under administrative detention orders, some had been held for over two years. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment were frequent, but investigations were rare. Around 6,000 Palestinians remained in Israeli prisons, many after unfair military trials. Israeli conscientious objectors to military service continued to be imprisoned.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. That is the whole Torah, the rest is commentary.”
RABBI HILLEL
Jews for Justice for Palestinians:
WE BELIEVE THAT
Peace in the Middle East will only come about with mutual recognition and respect and must be seen as
just by both sides.
Peace requires the end of illegal occupation and settlement.
Violence against civilians is unacceptable.
Israel’s policies in the West Bank and Gaza are breeding hatred and resentment.
It is crucial that Jews speak out for Palestinians’ human rights.
The humanitarian values of Judaism have been corrupted by the Israeli state’s human-rights abuses.
A lasting peace must be seen as just by both sides.
Britain, the EU, the USA, Russia and the UN must be persuaded to implement UN resolutions on
Palestine.
Jews for Justice for Palestinians
I agree with Jews for Justice for Palestinians
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories:
A ceasefire between Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups agreed in January 2009 was generally respected. The Israeli army maintained draconian controls on the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), including a blockade on the Gaza Strip that deepened hardship and virtually imprisoned the entire population of 1.5 million. The Israeli authorities rejected or delayed applications for permits to leave Gaza submitted by hundreds of Palestinians requiring specialist medical treatment; a few died as a result. Most of Gaza’s inhabitants depended on international aid, which was severely hampered by the blockade. In May, Israeli forces killed nine men aboard an aid flotilla in international waters that was aiming to breach the blockade. In the West Bank, the movement of Palestinians was severely curtailed by hundreds of Israeli checkpoints and barriers, and by the 700km fence/wall that Israel continued to build mostly inside the West Bank. There was a substantial increase in the number of demolitions by Israeli authorities of Palestinian homes, water cisterns and other structures in the West Bank, affecting thousands of people. Israeli authorities also destroyed homes in Bedouin villages in the south of Israel. The expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on seized Palestinian land, partially frozen until 26 September, resumed. Israel still did not conduct adequate investigations into alleged war crimes and other serious violations of international law by its forces during Operation “Cast Lead”, the 22-day offensive in Gaza in December 2008/January 2009, during which nearly 1,400 Palestinians, including more than 300 children, were killed. Israeli soldiers and settlers who committed serious abuses against Palestinians, including unlawful killings, assaults and attacks against property, were generally not held to account for their crimes. Israeli military forces killed 33 Palestinian civilians in the OPT, including eight children. Hundreds of Palestinians were arrested and detained by Israeli forces; at least 264 were held without charge or trial under administrative detention orders, some had been held for over two years. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment were frequent, but investigations were rare. Around 6,000 Palestinians remained in Israeli prisons, many after unfair military trials. Israeli conscientious objectors to military service continued to be imprisoned.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. That is the whole Torah, the rest is commentary.”
RABBI HILLEL
Jews for Justice for Palestinians:
WE BELIEVE THAT
Peace in the Middle East will only come about with mutual recognition and respect and must be seen as
just by both sides.
Peace requires the end of illegal occupation and settlement.
Violence against civilians is unacceptable.
Israel’s policies in the West Bank and Gaza are breeding hatred and resentment.
It is crucial that Jews speak out for Palestinians’ human rights.
The humanitarian values of Judaism have been corrupted by the Israeli state’s human-rights abuses.
A lasting peace must be seen as just by both sides.
Britain, the EU, the USA, Russia and the UN must be persuaded to implement UN resolutions on
Palestine.
Jews for Justice for Palestinians
I agree with Jews for Justice for Palestinians
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Please refrain from PERSONAL ATTACKS and keep this thread ON TOPIC!!
Anonymous opposes unfairness, injustice and oppression. That's why they oppose the Zionist State of Israel, not Jews or Judaism.
True Torah Jews
Our Mission
The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:
1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah-centered understanding of our peoplehood with an armed materialism.
True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that not all Jews support the ideology of the Zionist state called "Israel". In fact, a great number of Orthodox Jews view the ideology of that state as diametrically opposed to the teachings of traditional Judaism.
We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the Zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide.
We are NOT politically motivated. We are motivated by our concern for the peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state. We support and pray for peace for the people of the Zionist state but have no interest in and do not support the Zionist government.
Our Mission | True Torah Jews
I support fairness, freedom and justice, just like Anonymous.
Anonymous opposes unfairness, injustice and oppression. That's why they oppose the Zionist State of Israel, not Jews or Judaism.
True Torah Jews
Our Mission
The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:
1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah-centered understanding of our peoplehood with an armed materialism.
True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that not all Jews support the ideology of the Zionist state called "Israel". In fact, a great number of Orthodox Jews view the ideology of that state as diametrically opposed to the teachings of traditional Judaism.
We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the Zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide.
We are NOT politically motivated. We are motivated by our concern for the peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state. We support and pray for peace for the people of the Zionist state but have no interest in and do not support the Zionist government.
Our Mission | True Torah Jews
I support fairness, freedom and justice, just like Anonymous.
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Please refrain from BS as that must be against forum Rules.
Also Hate Speech is Liable for Criminal penalties in Canada.
Please feel fee to stay on topic and attack the message.
Anonymous opposes unfairness, injustice and oppression. Those who support the Zionist State of Israel support unfairness, injustice and oppression. Goober knows this, that's why he resorts to personal attacks because he knows that he can't defend his support for these Israeli war crimes:
1) Use of civilians including women and children as human shields to defend artillery and tank positions
2) Use of civilians including women and children as human shields to block bullets and set off booby traps.
3) Use of civilians including children to search for explosives
4) Use of civilians including children to search for enemy positions and draw enemy fire
5)Deliberately destroying civilian infrastructure for purely collective punishment reasons without any military purpose:
- hospitals, schools and universities, police and fire stations, mosques and churches, government buildings
- sewage and water distribution systems
- sewage and water treatment systems
- food production, storage and distribution
- electricity production and distribution
- fuel storage and distribution
6) Deliberately attacking ambulance drivers, paramedics, firemen and police and innocent civilians. including women and children.
7) Ethnic cleansing
8) Interference with the delivery of international medical and food aid, causing death from easily treatable diseases and food insecurity
9) Deliberately attacking UN and NGO aid convoys.
Anonymous opposes unfairness, injustice and oppression. Those who support the Zionist State of Israel support unfairness, injustice and oppression. Goober knows this, that's why he resorts to personal attacks because he knows that he can't defend his support for these Israeli war crimes:
1) Use of civilians including women and children as human shields to defend artillery and tank positions
2) Use of civilians including women and children as human shields to block bullets and set off booby traps.
3) Use of civilians including children to search for explosives
4) Use of civilians including children to search for enemy positions and draw enemy fire
5)Deliberately destroying civilian infrastructure for purely collective punishment reasons without any military purpose:
- hospitals, schools and universities, police and fire stations, mosques and churches, government buildings
- sewage and water distribution systems
- sewage and water treatment systems
- food production, storage and distribution
- electricity production and distribution
- fuel storage and distribution
6) Deliberately attacking ambulance drivers, paramedics, firemen and police and innocent civilians. including women and children.
7) Ethnic cleansing
8) Interference with the delivery of international medical and food aid, causing death from easily treatable diseases and food insecurity
9) Deliberately attacking UN and NGO aid convoys.
You only discuss these points here. In your workplace as I understand people avoid this with you.
This quote from Orwell explains Goober's lack of moral outrage when it comes to Israel:
George Orwell:
“All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side. The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”
Notice how a list of war crimes doesn't affect Goober. That's because Goober supports Israeli soldiers abducting Palestinian children and using them to block bullets. He would outraged if Palestinians did the same thing though. Since he can't attack the message, he resorts to attacking the messenger in violation of forum rules.
BTW I don't support soldiers using children as human shields, regardless of who does it. I am as much against Palestinian war crimes as I am against Israeli ones. I am against Palestinian rockets and mortars fired at Israeli civilians.
George Orwell:
“All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side. The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”
Notice how a list of war crimes doesn't affect Goober. That's because Goober supports Israeli soldiers abducting Palestinian children and using them to block bullets. He would outraged if Palestinians did the same thing though. Since he can't attack the message, he resorts to attacking the messenger in violation of forum rules.
BTW I don't support soldiers using children as human shields, regardless of who does it. I am as much against Palestinian war crimes as I am against Israeli ones. I am against Palestinian rockets and mortars fired at Israeli civilians.
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Look to someone else to put thought that are literate out. Why, you get trapped all the time when you try to think on your own. What a pitiful little creature you are.
It's only a matter of time until the government starts shutting down websites as part of their new anti-terrorism intitiative.
Control what people know and you control what people think. This website serves an import purpose, because its a way for people to share information outside of state controls.
I view these people in the same way that i do anarchists. If they refuse to honor the law and seek justice through these pitiful attempts at extortion, perhaps like the anarchists they need a taste of what anarchy really is. That would be a good ol boy shooting them indiscriminately cause he is p!ssed at them. That is anarchy. Cowards who hide behind a computer screen are among the lowest form of life.
Sometimes our laws are the problem. When that is the case, good people must break the law.
Helping people think for themselves or challenging popular opinion is an action.
No matter what anti Joo propaganda you spew...only anti Jews like yourself believe that bullshyte....so keep on doing it....you're not making any new converts...
Really? List of Jewish anarchists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_anarchism
In my books, NOBODY gets a free pass for being an asshole.
OK ypu posted every crime the muzzie terrorists committed. Now see if you can find a crime that the IDL committed.
Now that is true. Although these laws are the only thing protecting you from justice.
There's another one of those blanket demonizations of Israel as a whole.
I saved that, along with the many other examples, for the net time you say you don't condemn the whole of Israel.
So that's why your posts are so weak.
Anonymous, aren't good people. No wonder you support them.
My apologies, i should clarify that i was referring to anonymous and some occupy types, not Jews, whom i support over savage muzzies and their "useful idiots".
That being said i agree with you that assholes of any stripe don't get a free pass.