And They're OUT! The UK leaves the EU.

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It's Hillary's Worst Nightmare

For more than a year, Democrats have assured themselves that America surely would not be foolish enough to favour a maverick, proudly xenophobic, boorish billionaire over the wisdom, experience and poise of Mrs Clinton.

Their confidence echoes that of the British establishment, so sure the electorate would not - could not - defy the collective authority of virtually all the country’s senior politicians, economists and international leaders - until it did.
 

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Funny but it seems all your British friends are living in Canada , Why is that ?

Not just Canada, some are in Alaska and half still live in the UK, so... don't assume.

For those who came over this way, it's cause they're Sleddog people, and moved to participate in that culture since Britain doesn't get much snow and they have mostly dryland pulls, not actual sled on snow. The Iditarod and Yukon Quest are popular reasons for sleddog people to move.
 
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It's such a breath of fresh air to hear UK 'Leave' leaders like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage speak in terms of sovereignty, boundaries, nation, patriotism, community and freeing themselves from the chains of supranational agencies and tribunals after years of Eurobabble.. of the inevitability of multiculturism, 'change', globalization, deindustrialization, 'Free' Markets, open immigration.. of white man's guilt.. when people see their lives and livelihoods turned upside down. This will likely start to deconstruct the failed experiment of the European Union.

The scare tactics of the Remain side.. in predicting financial chaos and disassembly of the UK won't be realized. Scotland won't separate to become a solitary, distant outpost of an increasingly decrepit and totalitarian EU over a constituent part of the UK, where its history lies. Well done to the UK in trusting in its own resources.

I think that this is a sign the we are entering a new paradigm.. casting off the Free Market, borderless world the post nationalists and post structuralists of the last 40 years. I think its a harbinger of a Trump win and a new political order in the U.S. in November.

I'm willing to go farther and predict we are at the start of a new epoch. Since the 'West' was founded in 500 A.D. with collapse of the Roman Empire we have had revolutionary overthrows of the old regime every 250 years, like clockwork. The Enlightenment started about 1750 and brought in a new order of art, architecture, philosopy, politics, science, culture. It's been apparent for 50 years that the Enlightenment has corroded into immorality, disintegration, irrationality, relativism, pseudo science, corruption. It could be a way out of the Dark Age that loomed with the continuation of that ethos.

Reform in the West has always meant a revitalization and conformation to original archetypes in faith, family, country, community. It will take a generation to fully resolve itself.. but at least it's a way out of the hopelessness of the Culture of Death in which we are ensnared.
 
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Serryah

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And Britain has voted, in a triumph of democracy, for Brexit. The result shall be respected.

Sadly, yep.


No, the Scots are Brits, just as the English, Welsh, Northern Irish, Gibraltareans, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc are.

And that's why the Scots and Irish are looking already to leave. Good job on that one. They don't see themselves as Brits, fyi.


And what difference is that? And remember that there are a lot more Londoners than there are Scots.

If you don't know the difference then I sure as hell can't explain it to you.


The Scots are going to have to accept the result, just as the English have to do when the Scots foist a Labour government onto them.

If the Scots don't have the numbers, despite voting the entire area, to stay, then how in all that's holy can they 'foist' a Labour government on the rest of England??? That doesn't make sense.

Do you realise that the Scots were told several times during their independence referendum campaign in 2014 that there is to be an EU referendum, yet they STILL voted Remain. They had the opportunity to leave the UK before this referendum yet they blew the chance. They now have to live with the consequences.

Because they thought - as many did - that in no wild dreams would Britain leave the EU. This was unexpected by a LOT of people. HeII, I just read an article where one guy voted to LEAVE and he was all WTF after because he honestly didn't think his vote would count. Do I believe it, not really, BUT seeing as the top Google search now is "What happens if Britain leaves the EU" and other Brexit type things, people are only realizing now what it might mean. I think a lot of people just didn't THINK and let stupid politicians do the 'thinking' for them.

This time, they got skrewed.


Give us an example of one of these "lies."

The biggest political decision for a generation was based on a lie about £350m – the NHS will never see that | Voices | The Independent

Farage rejects £350 million NHS Leave pledge – POLITICO

There's more links out there. I think this might have been one of the big lies that swayed people and not even 24 hours in the backtracking has begun.

Tough. They're obviously in the minority.

I don't think minority as much as you wish.


How? For wanting the same points-based immigration system that Canada and Australia have?

They're racist period. I've read nothing on them that has shown them to be otherwise.

I do agree that Britain has an extremist issue within its borders and that has to be dealt with. I honestly have no problem with immigration reform either. IMO, that's important really. But I question a Racist Organization being behind such things as if they have all the answers.

This vote for Brexit means that the UK now no longer needs to abide by EU free movement of people rules. Britain can now put in proper controls at her borders.

And as I understand it, the free movement stops the other way too, so no longer can people go elsewhere easily, nor will goods be as easy to trade off, jobs for people outside the UK will be harder for people to go to...


There's nothing wrong in having a party that sticks up for the white working classes. I'm proud that I live in a country whose white working class has just completely destroyed the anti-white working class Establishment. Britain has swept away all the Establishment filth and is about to get a Brexit government likely headed by Boris Johnson.

And that right there is why you're an effin idiot and bigot. Are you THAT scared of anyone non-white... oh nevermind.

We already know the kind of person you are.


We'll have to start it only after Britain has activated Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty and withdraws from the EU.

It'll be interesting to see what happens up to and after that point in time.

For what it's worth, it's done and over with. Now the messy shyte starts. For good or bad... I just hope that it's not all bad.
 

B00Mer

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TSX, Dow begin day with a plunge after Brexit vote

Holy Crap 401K taking a beating..

Oh look at this Mark Cuban is clairvoyant, for BREXIT and Trump.

Mark Cuban: 'Huge, huge' losses for stocks if Trump wins

 

Murphy

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From the CDN perspective, the fallout will come in the form of immigration to Canada. We will end up with boatloads of BLs and mightily confused Muslims. Since Trudeau will still be PM, his govt will accept them all. We have seen with BL and selfsame what Canada's future will become.

It boggles the mind, unless we clamp down hard on English and Muslim immigrants. Onterrible is a fughing political and economic mess. We don't need more trouble.

Lest you think I'm joking, consider your children, retirement and healthcare in real terms. Storm clouds are brewing.
 

B00Mer

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From the CDN perspective, the fallout will come in the form of immigration to Canada. We will end up with boatloads of BLs and mightily confused Muslims. Since Trudeau will still be PM, his govt will accept them all. We have seen with BL and selfsame what Canada's future will become.

It boggles the mind, unless we clamp down hard on English and Muslim immigrants. Onterrible is a fughing political and economic mess. We don't need more trouble.

Lest you think I'm joking, consider your children, retirement and healthcare in real terms. Storm clouds are brewing.

LOL if things could get worse for Ontario

Ontario Would Be Hit Hardest By Brexit
 

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Might see the U.S. leaving the U.N.............
Hopefully Canada, too.

TSX, Dow begin day with a plunge after Brexit vote

Holy Crap 401K taking a beating..

Oh look at this Mark Cuban is clairvoyant, for BREXIT and Trump.

Mark Cuban: 'Huge, huge' losses for stocks if Trump wins

My Altria kept moving up. It's been my best performer since I bought it almost 20 years ago.

Right on!
After Brexit, CNBC's Rick Santelli Cheers ‘Tea Time in London’
 

damngrumpy

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The people of Britain decided to get to hell out of Europe plain and simple.
Yes immigration is playing a part in this and its going to spread to Holland
and even France. Trade deals are in for a rough ride before this is over.
The rich countries want to remain rich they also don't want foreign poor
moving in to the neighborhood
We are in for some very uncertain times. Should Trump get elected free trade
deals the race to the bottom will be in chaos that is what making America Great
again means
This is the tip of the iceberg
 

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...and here is my greatest fear.. BREXIT doesn't just effect Britain or The UK.. if Scotland, and Ireland leave.. who is next???

Andrew Coyne: A successful Brexit could reignite moribund Quebec sovereignty movement

It may very well fuel flames of Sovereignty over here and break up Canada.

However today talking to folks at work, I found there are plenty who like Trump, but they are hoping Trump turns Canada into the 51st State.. I was was like WTF??

I think over the next few years we are going to witness History in many ways..

Andrew Coyne can fan the flames all he wants, Boomer. The sovereignty movement is all but dust in the wind. As for Scotland and Ireland they have the right to their own destinies whatever they may be.
 

Locutus

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everything will be ok in the United Kingdom.

the others are simply mad that they lose out on (free) stuff. they'll get over it.

common-sense is contagious. have faith brothers and sisters.
 

Murphy

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Well, it won't be completely okay, but the UK is no longer of much importance on the world stage. Besides, they are over there. I am concerned that "over there" will come here. We have some serious economic problems of our own. We cannot take on the UK's offal.
 

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The EU's biggest problem in my mind has been its lack of democratic decision making. Major policy enactment and transfers of domestic power have been made without public consultation, and at times when the public was consulted, voters often rejected the EU. It got to a point a few years ago that democracy was actually a road block when Brussels wanted to push through major constitutional changes. They tried to find legal ways to get around member state laws requiring referendums.

This referendum fixes the EU's democratic problem by actually being a meaningful vote on the EU that this time won't be ignored and loop-holed around. But also obviously isn't a fix because now the UK will leave and the EU will stay the same.