Amazing how the left wing ignores their own lack of class whilst flogging Rob Ford...

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Anonymous is also looking for the video and CTV also reports that Ford and the video were part of a police investigation long before reporters got involved.

Anonymous On Rob Ford's Alleged 'Crack' Video: It's In Our Crosshairs

While Toronto Police stay silent on what they may have netted in a massive drug raid Thursday, the hacking collective known as Anonymous appears to be on the trail of the alleged Rob Ford video.

A tweet from the group's news feed suggests the video, purportedly showing the Toronto mayor smoking crack cocaine, is in Alberta.

CTV News has cited a highly placed, unnamed source claiming the tape's existence was known to Toronto police before Gawker story broke.

CTV suggests police overheard suspects discussing the video in detail over wiretaps, during the year-long prelude to the raids.
 

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There's some good points in this article, it shouldn't be easy to remove elected officials, but there should be some method to remove those who show a clear pattern of contempt for the office they hold.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/solve+problem+like+Ford/8457372/story.html

But political remedies, when a mayor has lost control of his own office and is unable to command the respect of council, do not have to even consider criminal guilt or innocence; they can consider competence. It would be wrong for council to gang up on a mayor and throw him under the bus just to get on the right side of a scandal. But a carefully written law that allowed council and the province to put the question to voters — that might be something to consider. It could create fresh problems. But we Ontarians have to ask ourselves, given the current circumstances, whether those problems would be worse than those that face us now.

Recent scandals at both the federal and municipal levels demonstrate that we cannot assume that any politician will resign out of a sense of shame, common decency, or respect for citizens. It shouldn’t be easy to remove a politician from office. But there might be a reasonable threshold, short of serious criminal convictions, at which voters should get a chance to speak.
 

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Another interesting piece.

Bradley Foster: Rob Ford: The Myth Behind the Tragedy


Ford could be the poster child for confirmation bias, a psychological concept that to a certain extent, we are all subject to. We do it when we listen to information that confirms our beliefs or bias, often rejecting what we don't believe. What's unique about Ford is he is totally deaf to anything that doesn't support his role as the hero. When attacked or criticized, he comes back with denials, blame, finger pointing, attacks of his own or withdrawal. Nothing dents this hero's armour. As his brother Doug says, he's got skin as tough as a crocodile.

If Rob Ford does have a substance abuse problem, he would have to admit it to himself first and that isn't likely to happen. The dissociation between who he is a public figure and his private life allows him to behave differently and we have a long list of how that played out. Dissociation of two very different lives allows the ego to compartmentalize behavior and may produce two competing personalities which in Ford's case may not be far off the mark.

Ford isn't the first politician who suffers from confirmation bias and he won't be the last. He isn't the first public figure to feel entitled and put himself above the law either. He has actually gone far on bravado, chutzpa and bullying despite his handicaps. Like the hero Icarus, he has flown too high; his fragile wings are melting in glare of public scrutiny. His hubris is his undoing. The man looking back through the microscope is angry, confused and frightened. He can't accept what the media says about him because it undermines his mythology. If Ford had read about Icarus he might have figured out that this myth doesn't end well.

I agree, this won't end well and based on what I've seen here I don't think Ford is the only one struggling with confirmation bias.
 

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Hahahaha! You guys are proving the intent of the OP. I could care less if Ford is guilty or not but i would like some serious proof before i hang him.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Hahahaha! You guys are proving the intent of the OP. I could care less if Ford is guilty or not but i would like some serious proof before i hang him.

Yes, it's a huge joke...on Toronto.

Rob Ford's 2014 mayoral campaign has already begun

Ford started campaigning for his next term almost as soon as he got in office, he does next to nothing and relies on controversy to maintain his "fan" base.

Of course he would think that. For more than a year, he’s repeatedly demonstrated that he doesn’t particularly care if the business of the city gets done. For Ford, chaos might be the preferred course for Toronto’s government. After getting elected, the mayor spent close to nine months intimidating city council into doing whatever he asked. As soon as some councillors started standing up to him last year—burying Ford’s transit fantasy plan and replacing it with an LRT plan he hated—he stopped trying to govern and started campaigning for the next election, which is still 17 months away.

Since then, council has staggered around under the temporary and varying leadership of a shifting cast of councillors, changing its mind on plastic bags, bike lanes, and zoning bylaws; all the while, Ford’s opinion has been absent from the debates, preferring to tell listeners to his radio show that the 2014 campaign has already begun. His fellow CFRB host (and former mayoral candidate and leader of the provincial Conservatives) John Tory has become exasperated by this, recently telling an Empire Club audience that with the election a year and a half away, “the public would have, in my view, every reason to remind the current administration that they were already elected to govern and to deal with issues like transit, not just to get ready for the next election.”

When he won office in 2010, he did so as an outsider ranting about how the arrogant government was led by bums who never listened to regular people like him. And now that he’s proven incapable of changing that, he’s trying to position himself to run as an outsider opposing an arrogant government led by bums who never listen to mayors like him. His demonstrated incompetence at leading those bums, er, councillors, is presented as the key reason to re-elect him. It’s a bizarre proposition. Still, it could be effective. He appears to have a base of about 30 per cent of voters who are rock-solid supporters, and for them, anything that humiliates the mayor only serves to increase their sympathy for him—underscoring their conviction that the elites are out to get them, and him. And he’s carefully chosen which issues to sloganeer on—subways for Scarborough, no new taxes, and so on—to try to pick up a few more disaffected voters along the way.

That is to say, why run again to lead the city if his defining characteristic is his refusal to lead?

Perhaps he’s already answered that question. When he said that the chaos, pettiness, and rudderless indecipherability that characterized last week’s transit votes made it among the “greatest days in Toronto’s history,” maybe he meant it. Because maybe the city government under Ford’s brand of non-leadership is showing signs of becoming the out-of-touch, selfish, directionless waste of resources he’s always said it was. City council sunk to the level of incoherence and undisciplined short-sightedness that has always characterized both Ford’s rhetoric and his performance. They’ve followed his lead, in a way, all the better for him to complain about the dysfunction and campaign to continue being the complainer-in-chief.

Maybe for Rob Ford and his close advisors, that has been the ultimate goal all along.

Ford shouldn't resign over the crack smoking thing, he should be removed from office because he doesn't give a damn about doing his job.
 

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8OHe is definitely, a buffoon.........

If my crack was smoking, and I know it's not as I just checked, I'd resign, and call 911, and go get treatment.

C'mon Rob, you're just to fukkin funny for Canada.

All the semi cartwheels on the pitch. Jesus. Just quit.

We don't have this sense of humour.

Sheeeeit

wish we did

kinda

but

kinda not too.
 

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I don't think he's funny, the more you look into his behaviour the more it appears he has serious emotional and psychological issues. This isn't funny, it's just sad. I think at some point Rob Ford's world is going to come crashing down around him as some here have been saying already. Like Charlie Sheen did a few years ago, the effort to maintain even a semblance of normalcy is going to be too much and Ford will have an even more spectacular and ugly crash than Sheen did.

As for the left not showing any class, it's been the federal conservatives that have taken the public forum to such extremes in recent years. As with US politics under the Bush people, with the Harper people it hasn't been enough to beat their opponents, the intent has been to destroy them. Millions of dollars and a great deal of time and effort have gone into to relentlessly attacking Stephane Dion, Michael Ignatieff, Thomas Mulcair and now Justin Trudeau. As we've seen with the recent attack campaign on Trudeau it has included going as far as questioning his manhood.

The public forum has become much more poisoned and the conservatives carry a lot of the responsibility for that, you can see it all over this forum. Rob Ford and his supporters are going to complain about unfair treatment but they and the movement they are part of is largely responsible for the introduction of the new level of fair game politics...and anyone who behaves as bizarrely as Rob Ford does is fair game.
 

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I'll admit, I voted for this Neanderthal, as I was sick of the Miller regime and Smitherman is a slimy douche.

Now though, he's turned the city into a carnival with his vices and lies. Why can't the guy give an honest answer when it comes to his crack usage? He used carefully crafted lawyer words when he stated that "i do not use crack" and "i'm not a crack addict". What about past tenths? Not to mention him posing for a portrait with three gangsters, one of whom is dead and the other two in jail. Now, for Ford claiming no such video exists, why were the Toronto Police Services invesigating said video weeks prior to Gawker/Stars reveal? His evasion and non-denials stink to high hell, if he had come clean at the beginning this wouldn't even be an issue now.

I say legalize it. Mainly because even if you do, doctors lawyers and mayors won't use it anymore than they already do, because you CAN'T smoke crack, and hold down a job, from anything I've ever seen.

Generally, professionals use cocaine, not crack, which a processed version of it mixed with additives etc.

Both will fack you up all the same though.
 

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The public still needs more proof than the rantings of po-ed people. Are you all glad that one cannot send you to jail because they don't like you? No proof, just hearsay.
 

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As much as I have tried to avoid following the Mayor Ford crap it's pretty hard to do so if one tries to keep up with current events by reading newspapers etcetera, but I do wonder why both he and his councillor brother keep on going.

What could possibly motivate them to keep going even though they claim to be harrased all the time? They were born very wealthy so it's not the money.

Maybe their insecure or don't have the intellectual curiosity to do something else...........
 

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As much as I have tried to avoid following the Mayor Ford crap it's pretty hard to do so if one tries to keep up with current events by reading newspapers etcetera, but I do wonder why both he and his councillor brother keep on going.

What could possibly motivate them to keep going even though they claim to be harrased all the time? They were born very wealthy so it's not the money.

Maybe their insecure or don't have the intellectual curiosity to do something else...........