A Harper majority would harm Canada and the world.

[Zzarchov]

Show me where the Conservatives want to replace good paying jobs with minimum wage jobs, for a start.

When they talk about "solving labour shortages" you know that means "dropping the price of labour" right?

There is no shortage of labour. There is a shortage of people willing to work for **** wages.

There is the law of supply and demand working in labours favour for once. Conservatives love the free market until the free market works against them and their base.

Ie, look at the US. The free market is good and socialism bad, then the free market works against their base and all of a sudden its time to stomp it out with handouts.

Its no different with Socialists, they are all for socialism when its protecting their base (union workers and lower classes), but when it comes time to turn against them and support companies at their expense (breaking up overbearing unions etc) all of a sudden they change their tune on socialism.

In the end parties support their base, regardless of any fake "political philosophies" they claim.

 

[Spocq]

Show me where the Conservatives want to replace good paying jobs with minimum wage jobs, for a start.

Harper said it himself. that they created more jobs then were lost.
The jobs that were lost are good paying jobs like John Deer and auto makers moved to Mexico, clothing makers moved to China. Conservatives give wealthy businesses big tax cuts and they they turn around and leave our country. Next time you go to department stores just look and see how many running shoes are made in China, you will find that over 95% are from there. Most of the jobs conservatives created are around $10 an hour. If the conservatives wanted to keep the good paying jobs here in Canada they would give those who are committed to staying in our country the tax breaks and not companies that leave.

 

[Spocq]

Harper like McCain says our economy is in good shape, McCain was wrong and it looks like Harper might be wrong also. According to what I have been hearing on the news our economy is in similar shape as the US, maybe even worse since they figure Canadians have more debt then Americans. Conservatives are very much like Republicans.

 

[Spocq]

Another example of Harper's bully mentality. Saying the other party leaders are cheering for a economy disaster. Its unbelievable how far he will go to win this election. Very sad indeed

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Another example of Harper's bully mentality. Saying the other party leaders are cheering for a economy disaster. Its unbelievable how far he will go to win this election. Very sad indeed

Harper was on TV today telling his acolytes we did so many things in the last 2 1/2 years, the loser did not tell his acolytes that he squandered 12 Billion dollars of Liberal surpluses. Any one who takes credit for another persons work is fraud....:angryfire:

 

[Colpy]

Harper was on TV today telling his acolytes we did so many things in the last 2 1/2 years, the loser did not tell his acolytes that he squandered 12 Billion dollars of Liberal surpluses. Any one who takes credit for another persons work is fraud....:angryfire:

Excuse me?

They are still in surplus, Socrates.....and Harper cut 2 points off the GST, started actually equiping our armed forces (totally ignored and hated by the Liberals), and gave evey child under 6 one hundred bucks a month. AND he only promises increased spending of 1.1 billion dollars a year, well within the current budget surplus.....

Meanwhile, the Liberals have promised increased spending of over 12 times that much: 13.6 billion a year....which leaves only three options:
!. The Liberals are liars, that have absolutely no intention of fulfilling the vast majority of their promises.
2. The Liberals are going to raise taxes. Radically.
3. The Liberals are going to run a deficit.

Take your pick.......

 

[lone wolf]

Of course there's a surplus.... That happens when there's still time left on the PM meter and you bail out early

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Excuse me?

They are still in surplus, Socrates.....and Harper cut 2 points off the GST, started actually equiping our armed forces (totally ignored and hated by the Liberals), and gave evey child under 6 one hundred bucks a month. AND he only promises increased spending of 1.1 billion dollars a year, well within the current budget surplus.....

Meanwhile, the Liberals have promised increased spending of over 12 times that much: 13.6 billion a year....which leaves only three options:
!. The Liberals are liars, that have absolutely no intention of fulfilling the vast majority of their promises.
2. The Liberals are going to raise taxes. Radically.
3. The Liberals are going to run a deficit.

Take your pick.......

Colpy how do you figuer that one out? the Liberals will run dfisits????? They paid down the unthinkable federal deficit, and came ahead with $12Billion on the site..........Canadians are not blind.......

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Of course there's a surplus.... That happens when there's still time left on the PM meter and you bail out early

 

[Spocq]

Excuse me?

They are still in surplus, Socrates.....and Harper cut 2 points off the GST, started actually equiping our armed forces (totally ignored and hated by the Liberals), and gave evey child under 6 one hundred bucks a month. AND he only promises increased spending of 1.1 billion dollars a year, well within the current budget surplus.....

Meanwhile, the Liberals have promised increased spending of over 12 times that much: 13.6 billion a year....which leaves only three options:
!. The Liberals are liars, that have absolutely no intention of fulfilling the vast majority of their promises.
2. The Liberals are going to raise taxes. Radically.
3. The Liberals are going to run a deficit.

Take your pick.......

Do you really feel 100 dollars a month is enough to meet the needs of child care in this country. That is an insult to those who need help with child care, even the increase he proposes I highly doubt will be enough to make a real difference.

You don't think Harper has done his share of misleading Canadians, I know some people who cant even watch Harper when he comes on TV cause he has lied so much. They don't even want to listen to his lies any more they are so tired of it. They and I feel all the other leaders are more honest then Harper.

 

[darkbeaver]

A Harper majority would harm Canada and the world.


Harper will harm canada and therefore the World, a majority would expedite that. It's every right thinking Canadians duty to make sure this country is not held responsible for some future indescretion, like invading Poland. He must be stopped at the Rideau Cannal and decisively defeated, we should accept nothing short of an unconditional surrender and swift show trials. Vote whatshisname for Primemanager.:lol:

 

[PhiOwl]

"Harper looks like your Average Joe, yes, but he is no "man of the people" insofar as diplomacy and statesmanship are concerned. Harper's hermitic nature does not score him points with international organizations, leaders, or persons expecting someone of Trudeau's, Chretien's, Mulroney's, or (at worst) Pearson's diplomatic stature," wrote Chris Laroche, journalist.

Harper's economic policies tied us to the U.S. sinking ship, not only with quiet agreements at secret meetings, but also by abruptly cutting off the respect and goodwill we had with many nations. He distorted Canada's world image with his rudeness with the Chinese, his scorn for Europe's climate change plan, his friendly embrace of the leaders on the blood-saturated ground of Columbia, his embarrassing performance at the Bali Conference, where Canada was the last country to vote in favour of the agreement. The U.S. delegation switched positions without telling Canada, and left Canada standing alone opposed to the final agreement, to the laughter of the international delegates.

Chinese In Vancouver News reported: "However, Harper suddenly made a high profile criticism against China, its human rights records and the Celil case before the APEC meeting last year. When Marston (Lawyer, acting for Celil) heard the prime minister in the media, he was stunned and knew it would be much difficult to get Celil released back to Canada. Marston said Harper's way of handling the case blocked off any hope of communication between China and Canada."

Then the Chinese withdrew from Oil sands negotiations complaining that the Harper government had slowed the process initiated by Paul Martin.

By staying steadfastly with the Bush/Cheney foreign policy Harper has diplomatically isolated Canada in Europe, the Far East, the Middle East, and to cap it off, Harper's interference in the Obama/Clinton Free Trade exchange means, if he wins, Obama will never trust Harper again.

John Kenneth Galbraith said empahitically that the neo-con economic philosophy would fail. Look at the mess south of our border.Harper will destroy much of what we treasure as Canadian. Canada has consistently rated in the top ten "best countries in which to live." Why does Harper want to change this?

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course there's a surplus.... That happens when there's still time left on the PM meter and you bail out early

HAHA the PM meter, that's true isn't it?

 

[darkbeaver]

"Harper looks like your Average Joe, yes, but he is no "man of the people" insofar as diplomacy and statesmanship are concerned. Harper's hermitic nature does not score him points with international organizations, leaders, or persons expecting someone of Trudeau's, Chretien's, Mulroney's, or (at worst) Pearson's diplomatic stature," wrote Chris Laroche, journalist.

Harper's economic policies tied us to the U.S. sinking ship, not only with quiet agreements at secret meetings, but also by abruptly cutting off the respect and goodwill we had with many nations. He distorted Canada's world image with his rudeness with the Chinese, his scorn for Europe's climate change plan, his friendly embrace of the leaders on the blood-saturated ground of Columbia, his embarrassing performance at the Bali Conference, where Canada was the last country to vote in favour of the agreement. The U.S. delegation switched positions without telling Canada, and left Canada standing alone opposed to the final agreement, to the laughter of the international delegates.

Chinese In Vancouver News reported: "However, Harper suddenly made a high profile criticism against China, its human rights records and the Celil case before the APEC meeting last year. When Marston (Lawyer, acting for Celil) heard the prime minister in the media, he was stunned and knew it would be much difficult to get Celil released back to Canada. Marston said Harper's way of handling the case blocked off any hope of communication between China and Canada."

Then the Chinese withdrew from Oil sands negotiations complaining that the Harper government had slowed the process initiated by Paul Martin.

By staying steadfastly with the Bush/Cheney foreign policy Harper has diplomatically isolated Canada in Europe, the Far East, the Middle East, and to cap it off, Harper's interference in the Obama/Clinton Free Trade exchange means, if he wins, Obama will never trust Harper again.

John Kenneth Galbraith said empahitically that the neo-con economic philosophy would fail. Look at the mess south of our border.Harper will destroy much of what we treasure as Canadian. Canada has consistently rated in the top ten "best countries in which to live." Why does Harper want to change this?

He is who he hangs with, this country is seething with imperialist wannabes, but our geography lying right next to the great demander puts us in certain peril of plunder unless we have a secret deal to go cooperativly. Harpers a piece of the NWO (new western order) I guess one of the managers of fortress north America. They told me to read Galbraith but I didn't much, he was not a fan of neo-liberal economics either. Harpers election in the first place has already destroyed Canadian treasures, the man is not noticably Canadian he's a wierd partial replication of whatshisnamesqueekyvoicethepreacher------PrestonManning.

PS--Harper looks like the average Joe?????????????????? the haircut alone puts the lie to that don't it?

 

[ottawabill]

Harper like McCain says our economy is in good shape, McCain was wrong and it looks like Harper might be wrong also. According to what I have been hearing on the news our economy is in similar shape as the US, maybe even worse since they figure Canadians have more debt then Americans. Conservatives are very much like Republicans.

Boy where to start!! First of all Canadian conservatives are closer to the democrats in the U.S. we don't actually have a right wing party by U.S. standards. Second we are in good shape..yes that may change, but right now there is a surplus, not giant financial company going under. We have high debt, but nowhere near the U.S. and our property values didn't jump so fast tht there is nothingto back up the debt. (this is the U.S. problem) the assets have crumbled so there is no calateral against the loans.

After all that said. The conservatives have had a majority for the 2 years they were in..slight tweaking of policy but nothing major, not chance of the liberals voting them out...they ran as if they have a majority.

Further to all of this, if some are so worried about these majorities where is the talk of an elected Senate that could be the checks and balances for the house?

 

[darkbeaver]

When they talk about "solving labour shortages" you know that means "dropping the price of labour" right?

There is no shortage of labour. There is a shortage of people willing to work for **** wages.

There is the law of supply and demand working in labours favour for once. Conservatives love the free market until the free market works against them and their base.

Ie, look at the US. The free market is good and socialism bad, then the free market works against their base and all of a sudden its time to stomp it out with handouts.

Its no different with Socialists, they are all for socialism when its protecting their base (union workers and lower classes), but when it comes time to turn against them and support companies at their expense (breaking up overbearing unions etc) all of a sudden they change their tune on socialism.

In the end parties support their base, regardless of any fake "political philosophies" they claim.

That's all correct isn't it Zzarchov, there seems to be a fly in the ointment of Humane Socialism. Flies grown from the maggots of war maybe? Not much we do as humans fails spontaneously. Mankind functions more efficiently in the collective, this is the bain of the elect, always the threat of the thinking cooperative the harmonious balanced transition of stuff. They've never needed us less.

 

[Walter]

Do you really feel 100 dollars a month is enough to meet the needs of child care in this country. That is an insult to those who need help with child care

I don't want people to have children who can't afford to raise them.

 

[lone wolf]

I don't want people to have children who can't afford to raise them.

So ... you propose zero population growth?

 

[Dixie Cup]

You think that the Conservatives care about empowering average people?
lol lol lol

Maybe where you are, but up here in Central BC, that's a joke!

They have dragged their feet on every progressive plan to help small business that has been put forth.

They're just a bunch of bean counters in my view.

Oh, so you want the government to regulate everything you and/or a business does?? That'll reailly help the economy; I can just see jobs galore under those circumstances.

Let me repeat, government has no business getting involved in business. Socialism does not encourage investment nor does it create jobs - businesses do. And, if government stays out of the way, businesses flourish and create jobs. If there's a demand for a service or a "ditty", there's someone out there who will try to address it, or improve on it or invent it. Governments should only ensure that companies treat their employees fairly, that they are environmentally responsible, that they pay their (and the employee's portion) of taxes - in otherwords, that they are good corporate citizens - that's it!! Otherwise, why would anyone go into business when all they could count on is government interference? Why the hell bother?? I just don't get it.

JMO

 

[darkbeaver]

Boy where to start!! First of all Canadian conservatives are closer to the democrats in the U.S. we don't actually have a right wing party by U.S. standards. Second we are in good shape..yes that may change, but right now there is a surplus, not giant financial company going under. We have high debt, but nowhere near the U.S. and our property values didn't jump so fast tht there is nothingto back up the debt. (this is the U.S. problem) the assets have crumbled so there is no calateral against the loans.

After all that said. The conservatives have had a majority for the 2 years they were in..slight tweaking of policy but nothing major, not chance of the liberals voting them out...they ran as if they have a majority.

Further to all of this, if some are so worried about these majorities where is the talk of an elected Senate that could be the checks and balances for the house?

OK now tell us how Harper will fix the global economy after he fixes the American economy?