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[B00Mer]

And Trans, and Bi and two spirits... but don't let HISTORY and FACTS get in the way...


Yeah, we also lived in caves; so?


YOU are sexualizing them and really, it's getting fucking gross. You and your 'kind' need to seriously stop.



Sometimes Boom, you actually make sense.

And then you post this shit; somehow you think it makes you edgy or something.

Again, YOU are the ones sexualizing kids and you need to stop it.

Go fuck yourself you insecure little boy, or get one of those cheapo whores you hire to do it.

You're the one sexualizing kids by not letting children be children.. and your ongoing push for sexualization of children needs to stop. Child predators groom kids.

I am strating to think you're a transvestite yourself, explains your affiliation with Terybright .. no wonder you argee in grooming children. Seek mental help.

F*ck I hope you don't have children. Jesus.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I know a young man (7yrs old) who’s a happy healthy kid (apparently) but smaller than the other kids his age. Turns out when he was born, there was some chemical misfire, & one of his testicles is almost nonexistent and the other is underperforming.

It doesn’t affect his intellect, and he’s just another happy kid at this age, but he’s going to have a life-long testosterone deficiency which will affect him not just physically but probably mentally if he’s physically smaller & doesn’t get to go through puberty like the other kids.

Is having a Physician intervene with testosterone to carry him into a normal adulthood for a male sexualizing this child? Is this a bad thing and messing with ‘Gods Plan’ or letting him be a child?

 

[B00Mer]

I know a young man (7yrs old) who’s a happy healthy kid (apparently) but smaller than the other kids his age. Turns out when he was born, there was some chemical misfire, & one of his testicles is almost nonexistent and the other is underperforming.

It doesn’t affect his intellect, and he’s just another happy kid at this age, but he’s going to have a life-long testosterone deficiency which will affect him not just physically but probably mentally if he’s physically smaller & doesn’t get to go through puberty like the other kids.

Is having a Physician intervene with testosterone to carry him into a normal adulthood for a male sexualizing this child? Is this a bad thing and messing with ‘Gods Plan’ or letting him be a child?

That's a medical condition.. not a mental condition.. testosterone theraphy is used even in adults who are old and want they extra poof with the wife.

Read: Gender Dysphoria | Psychology Today

 

[Serryah]

I know a young man (7yrs old) who’s a happy healthy kid (apparently) but smaller than the other kids his age. Turns out when he was born, there was some chemical misfire, & one of his testicles is almost nonexistent and the other is underperforming.

It doesn’t affect his intellect, and he’s just another happy kid at this age, but he’s going to have a life-long testosterone deficiency which will affect him not just physically but probably mentally if he’s physically smaller & doesn’t get to go through puberty like the other kids.

He'll likely be put on T for the rest of his life, once he reaches puberty/the age of puberty, depending on how things go.

Is having a Physician intervene with testosterone to carry him into a normal adulthood for a male sexualizing this child?

Eh, that's buying into the bullshittery that the skeered people have.

But exactly about the T and no, it's not. It's just helping to correct what genetics/nature fucked up in.

Is this a bad thing and messing with ‘Gods Plan’ or letting him be a child?

First it needs to be decided if "we" know "God's" plan, if we even believe in such a thing to begin with.

Is it "God's Plan" that the kid have the issues he has for all his life and we don't help him?

Is it the plan to help him?

Is it the plan to let him suffer abuse that will likely come his way from the fact he has low T and so will likely look more 'feminine'?

IMO bringing religion into this makes the situation worse in every sort of way.

He still gets to be a child, and at puberty, if T is needed, it's no different than a diabetic with the need for insulin if a Type 1, or metformin and other meds if a Type 2. Or needing Thyroid pills. Or any other kind of medication for problems a person can have.

And it is the same for Trans kids, in a way, too.

Studies now are showing a clear connection between the brain of a trans person and the gender they say they are. We all start off as female, then things trigger to have some of us grow a penis instead of having a vagina. Sometimes that happens, but the switch doesn't turn on in the brain to correspond to that change which is why the physical doesn't match the mental.

Is it "God's Plan" that trans kids exist?

Is it "God's Plan" that they be humiliated, abused and pushed to suicide because of bullying?

Is it "God's Plan" for us to use the knowledge we have to try and help them and correct what we can where nature screwed up?

I still think it's a fear, from most people, who cannot concieve of why a 'man' would want to be a 'woman', ergo 'lesser' and why a 'man' would want to 'cut their balls and dick off' (even though some trans people do NOT go full GRS). Or why a 'woman' would want to be a 'man' (THAT is a super heavy topic and leads to TERFS and their insanity).

Thing is, unless you've an open mind to the possibility that Trans people have a right to exist, you won't see their right to exist.

 

[DaSleeper]

If it wasn't for those quirks of nature , where would women find a good hairdresser?

 

[taxslave]

He'll likely be put on T for the rest of his life, once he reaches puberty/the age of puberty, depending on how things go.



Eh, that's buying into the bullshittery that the skeered people have.

But exactly about the T and no, it's not. It's just helping to correct what genetics/nature fucked up in.


First it needs to be decided if "we" know "God's" plan, if we even believe in such a thing to begin with.

Is it "God's Plan" that the kid have the issues he has for all his life and we don't help him?

Is it the plan to help him?

Is it the plan to let him suffer abuse that will likely come his way from the fact he has low T and so will likely look more 'feminine'?

IMO bringing religion into this makes the situation worse in every sort of way.

He still gets to be a child, and at puberty, if T is needed, it's no different than a diabetic with the need for insulin if a Type 1, or metformin and other meds if a Type 2. Or needing Thyroid pills. Or any other kind of medication for problems a person can have.

And it is the same for Trans kids, in a way, too.

Studies now are showing a clear connection between the brain of a trans person and the gender they say they are. We all start off as female, then things trigger to have some of us grow a penis instead of having a vagina. Sometimes that happens, but the switch doesn't turn on in the brain to correspond to that change which is why the physical doesn't match the mental.

Is it "God's Plan" that trans kids exist?

Is it "God's Plan" that they be humiliated, abused and pushed to suicide because of bullying?

Is it "God's Plan" for us to use the knowledge we have to try and help them and correct what we can where nature screwed up?

I still think it's a fear, from most people, who cannot concieve of why a 'man' would want to be a 'woman', ergo 'lesser' and why a 'man' would want to 'cut their balls and dick off' (even though some trans people do NOT go full GRS). Or why a 'woman' would want to be a 'man' (THAT is a super heavy topic and leads to TERFS and their insanity).

Thing is, unless you've an open mind to the possibility that Trans people have a right to exist, you won't see their right to exist.

Hopefully not opening another can of worms here, but does anyone actually have a right to exist?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Hopefully not opening another can of worms here, but does anyone actually have a right to exist?

No. What we typically call the "rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" simply means that other people cannot take those things from you.*

You have no "right" to be free of lightning strikes, car crashes, cancer, or any of the thousands of other fun and creative ways to die..

* Limitations apply. See contest rules for details.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Anyway, herein lies the problem with trans athletes. What you "feel" about your "identity" is irrelevant. If you're a short, skinny, weak person, you can "identify" as The Incredible Hulk, but you won't win any weightlifting gold medals.

Originally the Olympics was for men only. It wasn't until modern times that they added women's events. But the traditional sports, and even most of the modern ones, tend to favor certain characteristics (typically strength and agility) that men as a class and women as a class do better or worse at.

It's essentially arbitrary to begin with, but why mess with it? It's what we're used to.

As far as transgenders in society generally, I'm all for letting people dress any way they want. Heck, Marlene Dietrich dressed in men's suits a century ago, and everybody though it was just darling. HOWEVER. . . that does not obligate any other person, organization, or government to recognize you as anything other than a man or woman in opposite-sex clothing. Just as ID cards once listed race, now they list sex (NOT gender). Maybe someday we'll decide they shouldn't. Deal with that when it comes. But if the system is set up for men and women, then we shouldn't let men run around claiming to be women or vice versa. You're one or the other (except, yes, the tiny fraction of 1% of the population who are hermaphroditic to some extent. Sigh).

We should either stick to the system, or change it to eliminate sex the way we have largely changed the system to eliminate race as a consideration. And as a public-health issue, I don't see why society can't intervene in parents' decisions to mess with their kids' hormone balances or wedding tackle. Just like we don't let parents castrate their kids or give them powerful drugs. There is a line where "parental choice" becomes child abuse.

 

[spaminator]

Virginia Tech's Gyorgy says NCAA finals spot stolen by transgender swimmer Thomas
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Publishing date:Mar 21, 2022 • 11 hours ago • 2 minute read • Join the conversation
Reka Gyorgy wrote a letter to the NCAA saying that although she is convinced Lia Thomas is "no difference than me or any other D1 swimmer" who was striving to be the best in her field, allowing her to compete is "disrespectful" to biologically female swimmers.
Reka Gyorgy wrote a letter to the NCAA saying that although she is convinced Lia Thomas is "no difference than me or any other D1 swimmer" who was striving to be the best in her field, allowing her to compete is "disrespectful" to biologically female swimmers. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB /Virginia Tech
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A Virginia Tech swimmer who is also an Olympian for Hungary says her spot in the NCAA finals was stolen by transgender swimmer Lia Thomas.

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Reka Gyorgy wrote a letter to the NCAA saying that although she is convinced Thomas is “no difference than me or any other D1 swimmer” who was striving to be the best in her field, allowing her to compete is “disrespectful” to biologically female swimmers, according to the Daily Mail.

Gyorgy wrote: “I swam the 500 free at NCAA’s on March 17th 2022 where I got 17th which means I didn’t make it back to the finals and was first alternative. I’m a 5th year senior, I have been top 16 and top 8 before and I know how much of a privilege it is to make finals at a meet this big.

“This is my last college meet ever and I feel frustrated. It feels like that final spot was taken away from me because of the NCAA’s decision to let someone who is not a biological female compete. I know you could say I had the opportunity to swim faster and make the top 16, but this situation makes it a bit different and I can’t help but be angry or sad,” she wrote.

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“It hurts me, my team and the other women in the pol. One spot was taken away from the girl who got 9th in the 500 free and didn’t make it back to the A final preventing her from being all American.

“Every event that transgender athletes competed in was one spot away from biological females throughout the meet.”

Gyorgy isn’t against Thomas and respects her, but doesn’t believe they should be in the same competitions.

Lia Thomas, a transgender woman, finishes the 200-yard freestyle for the University of Pennsylvania at an Ivy League swim meet against Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on January 22, 2022. AFP via Getty Images
Lia Thomas, a transgender woman, finishes the 200-yard freestyle for the University of Pennsylvania at an Ivy League swim meet against Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on January 22, 2022. AFP via Getty Images PHOTO BY JOSEPH PREZIOSO /AFP via Getty Images
“She is doing what she is passionate about and deserves that right. On the other hand, I would like to critique the NCAA rules that allow her to compete against us, who are biologically women.”

Thomas, competing on behalf of the University of Pennsylvania, finished first in Thursday’s competition, qualifying her to compete in the women’s championships where she finished in eighth place in the 100-yard freestyle race.

Virginia Tech swimmer bumped out of finals by Lia Thomas blasts NCAA

Reka Gyorgy claims her spot in the NCAA finals was stolen due to Lia Thomas being permitted to compete in the division. She has called on the sport authority to revise its transgender rules.

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Virginia Tech's Gyorgy says NCAA finals spot stolen by transgender swimmer Thomas

Virginia Tech's Gyorgy says NCAA finals spot stolen by transgender swimmer Thomas

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[B00Mer]

 

[Ron in Regina]

The Trans Swimmer Who Won Too Much

Lia Thomas is not the first trans swimmer in the N.C.A.A., but her victories have put her at the center of a debate about trans athletes.

www.newyorker.com

Interesting, despite Boom's posts, she was pretty good before she transitioned.

IMO, she is the PERFECT example of why kids should be allowed to hormone block to discover if they are Trans and if so, then be allowed to take the proper hormone once it's determined which gender they are. That way they can be closer to who they are and NOT have to deal with this kind of BS in their life.

This is what happens when the "let them make the choice as an adult" excuse happens. They transition and it's still not enough.

But then if that happened, people like Boom couldn't scream about 'unfairness' and be upset that Trans people are more equal now cause they're not as easy to spot and OMG how DARE Trans people want to be normal!

“In general, élite male athletes have considerable physical advantages over élite female athletes. People who have gone through testosterone-driven puberty have, on average, more cardiovascular capacity, greater muscle mass, higher tendon mechanical strength, and denser bones. They tend to be stronger and taller, with longer wingspans. In many sports involving timed races, men are roughly ten to twelve per cent faster than women.”

But, on the flip-Side, just because Ron becomes Rhonda, Doesn’t change the fact that they’ve trained for the sport that they’re in since they were able to tie their shoes regardless of the dangley bits between their legs that partially determine what box gets checked off on their I.D.

I’m not sure where I stand on the hormone blockers for gender reassignment in children, because really, I have no idea at what age someone like Mia decides she wants to be a girl & not a boy, but in the little bit of reading in the last couple days it does seem very apparent that she did decide to be an athlete (in this case a competitive swimmer) before she decided to be a girl, & dedicated her life to the goal of becoming a competitive athletic swimmer.

So….To deprive Mia of the opportunity to compete competitively in the sport she’s trained for the majority of her life just because she decided that she was a girl and not a boy seems unfair as legally she’s not a boy anymore, and currently there are only Two Gender Classes in Sport. Male & Female, & she’s got to fit into one of them.

On that note, until there are 72 Gender classifications for sporting events, the best fit for Mia is in Female Athletics.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Conniption fits in 3. . . 2. . . 1. . .

 

[petros]

Are you gonna be okay?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Are you gonna be okay?

Better'n you, so I think your worry is misfocussed.

 

[petros]

Ya think so?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ya think so?

Yep.

 

[B00Mer]

 

[Serryah]

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A former swimmer's thoughts on Lia:

None of you cared about women's sports before you had a "reason" to. Beyond that though, Lia has not dominated this sport. Nor have any other trans athletes. She placed 5th and 8th in other events at that meet. (Also the 500 free sucks and I've even seen many a MAN flop out of the water following that event. I give mad props to whoever does this event. I purposely sandbaged it so I would never have to do it again)

"But her wing span and height!! THE BIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGES!!!!!!"
Michael Phelps has a longer than average wingspan, a larger web in this feet and hands, hyperextended joints (main advantage in his ankles), and produced less lactic acid than other athletes. No one complained about his advantages and he (more or less) dominated his sport. Some women are tall also, but if it's a tall woman AFAB athlete no one yells that they should compete with males. If you go after one athletes body you have to go for them all. If you only go after Lia or other trans female athletes, you're transphobic. Furthermore where do we draw the line with "natural advantages"?

"But she AMAB!!!"
So? They had to test her hormone levels before she swam. She had no more testosterone than what was outside a female limit. Her muscle mass began decreasing at 3-6 months. Then I also pose the question to you, what about intersex people? She took 2 years off of school to make sure she could participate in this sport. Let her swim.

NCAA let her compete. Be mad at NCAA, not Lia. She's a person not a political pawn. Even USA Swimming says they have no problem with Lia representing them in Paris for 2024 Olympicss as a woman athlete. Furthermore, watch what you say. Someone you know who's listening to your HATEFUL rhetoric probably loves someone who identifies as trans or queer as well as an athlete.

She's the first transgender athlete to win a division 1 NCAA title. If "men" are the threat to sports why has it taken this long for someone trans to win a title? The REAL threat to women's sports is not other women (INCLUDING TRANSFEMALE ATHLETES). It's the lack of funding, protection, and strong female leadership. It's also the rampant sexual harassment and unequal pay. So think about that.

PS. I'm literally looking at her times right now and you can tell how she's had to work hard to get her times back. Her 500 free times are no where near consistent, and her other times are really scattered too. Looking at times of other high ranking swimmers Lia fares about equal to them. Just so you know...
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[Ron in Regina]

If it’s any consolation I don’t care about women’s sports at all, or men’s sports to be perfectly honest. I just thought this would be an interesting topic to debate.