Letter to us from the Taliban!

[wallyj]

OK, ok. I feel better now that I know the wicked Taliban are out to attack Canada and not the USA.

Very thoughtful of them when you think about it.

You may need an adult to explain this to you. They are attacking not only Canada and the U.S.,but anyone who doesn't see things their way.... You should be safe.

 

[Colpy]

Colpy, you have proven that you are an idiot. Canada has no duty like that at all...

Canada is a member of NATO. A NATO member (the USA) was attacked by a force based in a foreign country. Article five of the NATO charter, of which Canada is a signatory, says an attack on one NATO nation is to be considered an attack on all.

Therefore Canada does have a duty to kill Taliban.

 

[darkbeaver]

Canada is a member of NATO. A NATO member (the USA) was attacked by a force based in a foreign country. Article five of the NATO charter, of which Canada is a signatory, says an attack on one NATO nation is to be considered an attack on all.

Therefore Canada does have a duty to kill Taliban.

What attack are you talking aboot? 911 was an inside job, if that's
the tired old saw you're playing.

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There is little doubt that U.S. arming of Georgia and its push to get Georgia into NATO set the scene for the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia and created the threat of a new major war. Now Washington also threatens Russia by placing missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the people there. Surrounding Russia with this military alliance of new NATO members is the greatest danger to peace and stability on a global scale.

It is time to remember that NATO was established as an anti-USSR military alliance aimed at reinforcing capitalist control and preventing socialist revolutions in the colonialist powers of Europe weakened by World War II. Since the end of the Soviet Union and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, the U.S. has attempted to vastly expand NATO and turn it into a military instrument to consolidate U.S. corporate power, surround Russia and China and re-conquer the former colonial world.
Tremblay - 2008-08-19

Why Not Simply Abolish NATO? - by Prof. Rodrigue Tremblay - 2008-08-19

 

[darkbeaver]

You may need an adult to explain this to you. They are attacking not only Canada and the U.S.,but anyone who doesn't see things their way.... You should be safe.

They are ingaged in a perfectly legal defence of thier own country.

 

[lone wolf]

They are ingaged in a perfectly legal defence of thier own country.

So if Britain had deployed bombers to Halifax when the FLQ killed James Cross, they would be in their right?

 

[Colpy]

They are ingaged in a perfectly legal defence of thier own country.

First of all, many of the Taliban are not Afghans.

Secondly, the fact that they harboured and helped those that attacked our allies makes our war on them fully justified.

Thirdly, anyone that believes 9-11 was an inside job is either blinded bytheir own misguided political idealism, certifiably insane, or just plain stupid. The evidence simply ain't there to show any conspiracy.

Fourth....WHO CARES? They are our enemy.....just ask'em.

 

[Zzarchov]

They are ingaged in a perfectly legal defence of thier own country.

Taliban are not Afghanistan citizens.

Claiming the Taleban is defending their country makes as much sense as Claiming America is just defending their country.

The Taleban are NOT Afghanistan citizens. I know this is hard to believe, but people other than the USA have imperial ambitions.

Thats why empires existed before the USA came to be.

 

[dancing-loon]

My dear Loon: If Taliban had their way, you would lose every freedom you know. As a mere woman, you would be beaten for being online for you may be speaking with a man or with someone who contradicts what your lord and master has spoken. As one who is no longer young and able to procreate new little sons for Allah, the livestock would get preferential treatment.

Pessimist? DL, do you even know what the word means? I am quite optimistic - otherwise I would not be alive today. I am also a realist. I know when rose-coloured glasses are the blinders fools wear.

As I said before, I was against sending troops to Afghanistan. That all changed when the cowards proved their mettle by targeting unarmed people who were just there to help Afghani citizens. They were the Koreans and now the Canadians. I am against giving Taliban the ego boost they would get if we were to leave. In their itty bitty little control freak minds, that would be a defeat. That would paint Canada as soft - and you can almost guarantee our next meeting with Taliban would be on Canadian soil. God knows there are enough rabid Muslims here. They're the ones who claim offense if there happens to be Christ in Christmas. So you can see, your friends have already scored a partial victory.

You can believe as you wish. Bliss is not always a gift.

Thank you, Wolf:smile: Bliss is of course vastly exaggerated! It has nothing to do with bliss, really. I just wonder why it is so hard for you and most others here to understand we are all human beings with the same needs for respect, acceptance, understanding and a little kindness. Have you not experienced how good it makes you feel, if you receive a compliment, get praised, some kind words, an offer of assistance, or just a smile? Looking back, our life is so short, why not allow others the freedom to live and breathe? You will now mention that the Taliban control the women in Afghanistan, restrict their freedom of movement and expression, and you therefore have to go over there and oppose and kill them. Of course, they will put up a fight! You would too, if they came over here for no other reason than to fight us for doing what we are doing. Whoever wants to fight will find a reason, no matter what sort of lies they have to invent. And I feel we have invented a reason to fight in Afghanistan, it's an artificial reason... to me it is.

When I said that in the 18th century the fathers were still beating their kids, I meant that we now, in the 21st century, have forbidden such practices... we have made progress as human beings. But our present wars don't reflect that, sadly. My reference to the 18th century had nothing to do with my father beating me up, and you, Wolf, felt sorry for me.
My language skills are not outstanding, and I often grapple around to say what I want to say, and it sometimes doesn't come out perfectly smooth and to the point. So, I am sorry for occasional misunderstandings.

Shall we put this topic to rest now and go on to something new? Have you read Gorbachov's article in the New York Times yet? Any comment?

 

[EagleSmack]

What attack are you talking aboot? 911 was an inside job,

LOL. Too funny.

if that's
the tired old saw you're playing.

End NATO Now: Petition


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Send this message to President Bush, Vice President Cheney,
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and major U.S. corporate media:

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U.S. Hands Off Georgia and Russia - END NATO NOW!

TELL BUSH, CHENEY, RICE AND CONGRESS: U.S. HANDS OFF GEORGIA AND RUSSIA - NO NEW WAR - END NATO NOW!

It is with growing concern that we observe that the U.S. government is threatening new military moves that carry the danger of another war-this time against Russia.

The Bush regime and the corporate U.S. news media have launched an anti-Russia hate campaign. Yet just as with the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan and the threats on Iran, the threatened military confrontation with Russia is also based on a lie.

The truth, hidden by most of the corporate news media, is that Georgia's President Mikheil Saakashvili, unleashed his U.S.- and Israeli-armed and-trained forces on the tiny autonomous region of South Ossetia, murdering civilians and attacking Russian peacekeeping troops stationed there. Only then did Russian troops respond.

Saakashvili is the president who sent 2,000 Georgian youth to join the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq. The U.S. supplies the weapons to his army. U.S. Special Forces and Israeli advisers and mercenary contractors direct the Georgian military, which just held three weeks of joint exercises with the U.S. Army and Marine Corps in July. We must take note that like Iraq and Iran, Georgia itself is a prize for U.S. oil companies, as it is a major transit point for Central Asian oil.

There is little doubt that U.S. arming of Georgia and its push to get Georgia into NATO set the scene for the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia and created the threat of a new major war. Now Washington also threatens Russia by placing missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the people there. Surrounding Russia with this military alliance of new NATO members is the greatest danger to peace and stability on a global scale.

It is time to remember that NATO was established as an anti-USSR military alliance aimed at reinforcing capitalist control and preventing socialist revolutions in the colonialist powers of Europe weakened by World War II. Since the end of the Soviet Union and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, the U.S. has attempted to vastly expand NATO and turn it into a military instrument to consolidate U.S. corporate power, surround Russia and China and re-conquer the former colonial world.
Tremblay - 2008-08-19

Why Not Simply Abolish NATO? - by Prof. Rodrigue Tremblay - 2008-08-19

So here is Russia invading Georgia... but are being told to keep our hands off? There is a war going on...a full scale battle. How many US soldiers have been killed there?

Global Research are a bunch of idiots as well as their audience.

 

[dancing-loon]

LOL. Too funny.
So here is Russia invading Georgia... but are being told to keep our hands off? There is a war going on...a full scale battle. How many US soldiers have been killed there?

Global Research are a bunch of idiots as well as their audience.

Hi, Eagle;
read this for a change! It could be Global Research, but it isn't!!!!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/op...bachev.html?em

 

[lone wolf]

Thank you, Wolf:smile: Bliss is of course vastly exaggerated! It has nothing to do with bliss, really. I just wonder why it is so hard for you and most others here to understand we are all human beings with the same needs for respect, acceptance, understanding and a little kindness.

I wonder why it is so hard for you to understand that the wants, needs and desires of one culture are NOT the same as those in another? That makes you exactly the same as the people you harp so much against as they expect their measure to be the same for others too. It's not for any one of us to proclaim my way or your way or Ali Bubble's way is the right way when it may only be right for me, you or Ali Bubble.

Have you not experienced how good it makes you feel, if you receive a compliment, get praised, some kind words, an offer of assistance, or just a smile? Looking back, our life is so short, why not allow others the freedom to live and breathe? You will now mention that the Taliban control the women (I used women as an example in an effort to reach the thinking part of you) in Afghanistan, restrict their freedom of movement and expression, and you therefore have to go over there and oppose and kill them. Of course, they will put up a fight! You would too, if they came over here for no other reason than to fight us for doing what we are doing. Whoever wants to fight will find a reason, no matter what sort of lies they have to invent. And I feel we have invented a reason to fight in Afghanistan, it's an artificial reason... to me it is.

Have you paid any attention to what I have said? I reiterate: I was AGAINST sending troops to Afghanistan - because once we are there, there is no way we can extract without giving them the psychological boost of a win. To them, that is running away ... the act of a coward. Now that our troops are there, I support the TROOPS - NOT the war. When civillians set up camp near Canadian compounds, that is an indication they are not happy with the way things are in their homeland. That is a cry for help. That is all the incentive a humanitarian needs to assist. THAT, my dear, is NOT invented.

When I said that in the 18th century the fathers were still beating their kids, I meant that we now, in the 21st century, have forbidden such practices... we have made progress as human beings. But our present wars don't reflect that, sadly. My reference to the 18th century had nothing to do with my father beating me up, and you, Wolf, felt sorry for me.
My language skills are not outstanding, and I often grapple around to say what I want to say, and it sometimes doesn't come out perfectly smooth and to the point. So, I am sorry for occasional misunderstandings.

Shall we put this topic to rest now and go on to something new? Have you read Gorbachov's article in the New York Times yet? Any comment?

Mister Gorbachov: Thank you for tearing down this wall. I hope the "good guys" will respect the peace you offered.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

You are right about me going to my grave believing that we are helping the Afghani's by destroying the cancer called Taliban.A gold star for you. But,sorry,you have to give it back. There isn't a chance in Hell I will get even close to the 'purely' gates. Or even the pearly ones....I used to have for my signature " War,like surgery,is traumatic,but it is often necessary for survival". Something like that.

Wally, killing to get your point across is no deferent than the scum bags who believe a bullet on a western persons back is an investment. You live with the gun you die with the gun………… have you ever heard that term?

The Afghani and Iraqi wars are both not Canada’s wars, Canada’s involvement is poorly a brown nose scenario……………….

 

[Risus]

Wally, killing to get your point across is no deferent than the scum bags who believe a bullet on a western persons back is an investment. You live with the gun you die with the gun………… have you ever heard that term?

The Afghani and Iraqi wars are both not Canada’s wars, Canada’s involvement is poorly a brown nose scenario……………….

Soc, the purpose of the Canadians in Afganistan is not to kill, but rather peace keepers. I don't think there is a brown nose involved....

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Soc, the purpose of the Canadians in Afganistan is not to kill, but rather peace keepers. I don't think there is a brown nose involved....

Risus, do you really believe that? They are not there for peace keeping at all…………….
If they were on a peace keeping mission we would not lose this far some 80 Canadian men and women……………. They are instructed to shoot and kill anyone who gets in their way with out a reason or aprouval…………

 

[lone wolf]

Risus, do you really believe that? They are not there for peace keeping at all…………….
If they were on a peace keeping mission we would not lose this far some 80 Canadian men and women……………. They are instructed to shoot and kill anyone who gets in their way with out a reason or aprouval…………

Do you have some clever means to tell the landmine not to go boom because you're a peacekeeper and not Rambo? Shoot to kill is a good plan against an enemy who frequently wears dynamite corduroy or drives around in explosives-laden vehicles.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Do you have some clever means to tell the landmine not to go boom because you're a peacekeeper and not Rambo? Shoot to kill is a good plan against an enemy who frequently wears dynamite corduroy or drives around in explosives-laden vehicles.

Lone W, out of some 80 men and women only a dozen were killed by a land mind, the rest died on the front line fighting, while the NATO alliance stood and debated for the longest time whether killing their men and women was a worthy cause………. Especially knowing that the brown nose will fill the empty spot.....

 

[Risus]

Lone W, out of some 80 men and women only a dozen were killed by a land mind, the rest died on the front line fighting, while the NATO alliance stood and debated for the longest time whether killing their men and women was a worthy cause………. Especially knowing that the brown nose will fill the empty spot.....

Soc, I sure don't know where you come up with your facts (especially the brown nose one) but I think you should research a little better.... especially the 'front line fighting' one.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Soc, I sure don't know where you come up with your facts (especially the brown nose one) but I think you should research a little better.... especially the 'front line fighting' one.

Risus I refuse to accept peace keeping as Canada’s roll in Afghanistan……….

 

[Risus]

Risus I refuse to accept peace keeping as Canada’s roll in Afghanistan……….

Well you are just a misinformed liberal wearing blinders. No point arguing with you with that attitude... You can't deny the facts.:-|

 

[lone wolf]

Well, here's a few facts for you, Soc. Admittedly, they're outdated but proof enough that you speak without really knowing....

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=a5ff532e-b5ba-4595-b94d-ca5c4993301d

What is a peace-keeping mission but that of a cop in an extremely bad neighbourhood?