Donald Trump Announces 2016 White House Bid

pgs

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Let me wise you up some, Tax, before you go spouting off about an electoral system of which you are utterly ignorant.

The people don't elect the President. The states elect the President. The Constitution says. . .


U.S. Const., Art. II, sec. 1, cl. 2.

Got that? "In such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct." The states don't have to hold popular elections at all. The state legislature can just draw up a slate of electors and send 'em off. Maine and Nebraska, each of which has three electoral votes (out of a total of 538) allow "split" electoral delegations, two to the winner and one to the loser, based on electoral districts within the state.

All state legislatures have, at this point, chosen popular elections as the method for determining electors. But all but Maine and Nebraska are "winner take all" states. If you win 50.1% of the popular vote in California, for example, you get all 55 electoral votes from California. Same with all the other states, except Maine and Nebraska.

By winning the popular election in North Carolina, Trump got all 15 of North Carolina's electoral votes. If the popular election is challenged and Trump won, but by a smaller margin than the margin in the "corrupt" election, he still gets all 15 NC electoral votes. If the popular election, after recount, reconsideration, or whatever-the-fuck they decide to do about it results in Harris winning the popular vote, she will get all 15 NC electoral votes.

And here's the key point. . . it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. If the reconsideration of NC's election gives the state to Harris, she still won't win. As things stand, the Electoral College count was Trump - 312, Harris - 226. If the EEE-vil libruls connive to shift NC's electoral votes to Harris, it'll be Trump - 297, Harris - 241. And Trump will still win.

So whatever EEE-vil librul plot you're cooking up in your information-free brain, it. . . won't. . . matter.

Sorry to put a hitch in yer git-along.
Nothing this screed about how this could effect down ballot races , of course .
 

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Trump asks Supreme Court to block sentencing in his hush money case in New York
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Published Jan 08, 2025 • 1 minute read

WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme Court to call off Friday’s sentencing in his hush money case in New York.


Trump’s lawyers turned to the nation’s highest court Wednesday after New York courts refused to do postpone the sentencing by Juan M. Merchan, the judge who presided over Trump’s trial and conviction last May on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

Merchan has indicated he will not impose jail time, fines or probation.

Trump’s attorneys have pointed to the Supreme Court’s ruling giving him broad immunity from criminal prosecution as they tried to have his New York conviction tossed out.

While that opinion came in a different case, Trump’s lawyers say it means some of the evidence used against him in his hush money trial should have been shielded by presidential immunity. Merchan has disagreed.
 

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Trump asks Supreme Court to block sentencing in his hush money case in New York
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Published Jan 08, 2025 • 1 minute read

WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme Court to call off Friday’s sentencing in his hush money case in New York.


Trump’s lawyers turned to the nation’s highest court Wednesday after New York courts refused to do postpone the sentencing by Juan M. Merchan, the judge who presided over Trump’s trial and conviction last May on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

Merchan has indicated he will not impose jail time, fines or probation.

Trump’s attorneys have pointed to the Supreme Court’s ruling giving him broad immunity from criminal prosecution as they tried to have his New York conviction tossed out.

While that opinion came in a different case, Trump’s lawyers say it means some of the evidence used against him in his hush money trial should have been shielded by presidential immunity. Merchan has disagreed.
Supreme Court politely declines, 5-4.
 

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And his punishment was?? Oh Right, zip, zero, nada.
I wonder how many of those fine upstanding New York Democrats find themselves on the wrong side of the courtroom over the next 4 years?
 

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Judge holds Rudy Giuliani in contempt of court for continued lies about Georgia election workers
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Published Jan 10, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

WASHINGTON — Rudy Giuliani was found in contempt of court Friday for the second time in a week, as a federal judge warned him he could be sent to jail if he doesn’t stop spreading lies about two former Georgia election workers who won a $148 million defamation judgement against him.


U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell in Washington, D.C., found Giuliani violated court orders barring him from defaming Wandrea “Shaye” Moss and her mother, Ruby Freeman. She ordered him to review trial testimony and other materials from the case, and warned him that future violations could result in possible jail time.

Moss and Freeman sued Rudy Giuliani for defamation for falsely accusing them of committing election fraud in connection with the 2020 election. His lies upended their lives with racist threats and harassment.

Shortly before the hearing began, Giuliani slammed the judge in a social media post, calling her “bloodthirsty” and biased against him and the proceeding a “hypocritical waste of time.”


Giuliani smiled and chuckled as the judge explained why she was holding him in contempt of court. Howell said it is “outrageous and shameful” for Giuliani to suggest that he is the one who has been treated unfairly in this case.

“This takes real chutzpah, Mr. Giuliani,” she said.

After the judge finished reading her decision from the bench, Giuliani asked her when she wrote it. He asked her why he had to travel to Washington to attend the hearing if she had already reached a decision in advance.

“Remarkable,” he said.

“It is remarkable,” the judge replied.

“Remarkable that you can do that in three or four minutes,” Giuliani added.

Giuliani continued to complain about the judge as he left the courtroom.

“It was a farce,” he said, describing the judge as “completely biased and prejudiced.”


Giuliani briefly testified during Friday’s hearing, only to authenticate records about his personal finances.

The judge didn’t fine Giuliani for his most recent defamatory comments about the case, but she said would impose daily fines of $200 if he doesn’t certify within 10 days that he has complied with her order to review trial testimony and other case-related material.

“I don’t care what she did. She is a completely farcical judge,” he said outside the courtroom. “She didn’t consider a damn thing I said. She wrote it beforehand.”

A jury sided with the mother and daughter, who are Black, in December 2023 and awarded them $75 million in punitive damages plus roughly $73 million in other damages.

“Mr. Giuliani started lying about Plaintiffs in December of 2020, and refused to stop after repeatedly being told that his election-rigging conspiracy theory about Plaintiffs was baseless, malicious, and dangerous,” the plaintiffs’ lawyers wrote.


Giuliani’s attorneys argued that the plaintiffs haven’t presented “clear and convincing” evidence that he violated a court order in the defamation case in comments that he made on November podcasts about alleged ballot counting irregularities in Georgia.

“Giuliani acted with the good faith belief that his comments did not violate the (judgment) and he should not be subject to contempt sanctions,” his lawyers wrote.

On Monday in New York, Judge Lewis Liman found Giuliani in contempt of court for related claims that he failed to turn over evidence to help the judge decide whether he can keep a Palm Beach, Florida, condominium.

Giuliani, who testified in Liman’s Manhattan courtroom Jan. 3, said he didn’t turn over everything because he believed the requests were overly broad, inappropriate or even a “trap” set by plaintiffs’ lawyers.


Giuliani, 80, said in a court filing that he will attend Friday’s hearing before Howell despite having travel-related concerns about his health and safety. He said he gets death threats and has been told to be careful about traveling.

“I had hoped the Court would understand and accommodate my needs. However, it appears I was mistaken,” he said in the filing.

On the witness stand, Moss and Freeman described fearing for their lives after becoming the target of a false conspiracy theory that Giuliani and other Republicans spread as they tried to keep Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election to Democrat Joe Biden. Moss told jurors she tried to change her appearance, seldom leaves her home and suffers from panic attacks.

“Money will never solve all my problems,” Freeman told reporters after the jury’s verdict. “I can never move back into the house that I call home. I will always have to be careful about where I go and who I choose to share my name with. I miss my home. I miss my neighbors, and I miss my name.”
 

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Do we think that Rudy is stalling in an effort to get old Donnie to give him a pardon, or can old Donnie do that, given the crime that was committed? Having said that, old Donnie has not complied with the laws in place, he will sign an executive order saying the Rudy is pardoned.
 

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Do we think that Rudy is stalling in an effort to get old Donnie to give him a pardon, or can old Donnie do that, given the crime that was committed? Having said that, old Donnie has not complied with the laws in place, he will sign an executive order saying the Rudy is pardoned.
Do you think old Donnie is going to be president of those United States of America ? Does that bother you ? Can you change it ?
 

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Do we think that Rudy is stalling in an effort to get old Donnie to give him a pardon, or can old Donnie do that, given the crime that was committed? Having said that, old Donnie has not complied with the laws in place, he will sign an executive order saying the Rudy is pardoned.
It's a civil case. There are no pardons in civil cases.