Ya know what they say. You can lead a whore to culture but you can't maker her think.
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You all are unanimous in disbelief and denial of the Quran the true word of God Almighty and Most Gracious.
It will be useless to reply to you; you have taken a stance against God and His religion included in His revealed book.
Anyhow, I or anyone else cannot compel anyone to believe.
So I'll quote the answer of the Quran to such of your blasphemies.
Quran 67: 6-11, which mean:
(6. And there will be the torment of Hell for those who disbelieve in their Lord; what a miserable destiny [will their destiny be in Hell!]
7. When they will be cast into [Hell], they will hear its roaring – as it boils up.
8. As [Hell] would tear up [from simmering] with [extreme] rage [at disbelievers.] Whenever a [new] troop is flung therein its keepers ask them: Came there to you no warner to [warn] you [of this punishment]?
9. They will say: "Yes, indeed, a warner did come to us, but we denied [him] and said: 'God has not revealed anything; surely you [messengers] are in error [far from the truth] so great, [for that you say: God has revealed to us a book and a revelation!']"
10. And they shall say: ― "Had we but listened [to the words of the messengers] or pondered [that to which they invited us], we should not have been among the inmates of the Blaze."
11. Thus, [will] they confess their sins [but their confession will not avail them anything at that time, for] the inmates of the Blaze will be far removed [from God's mercy.])
Also in the same soora 67
[Then God – be glorified – told about those of them who died, and He said:]
27. Then [when they died] they saw [the torment] close at hand; [at that time] the faces of the disbelievers were vexed, and it was said [to them by the angels]: "This is [the torment] for which you were asking [in the life of the World, with mocking; so now suffer of it.]"
It will be useless to reply to you; you have taken a stance against God and His religion included in His revealed book.
Anyhow, I or anyone else cannot compel anyone to believe.
So I'll quote the answer of the Quran to such of your blasphemies.
Quran 67: 6-11, which mean:
(6. And there will be the torment of Hell for those who disbelieve in their Lord; what a miserable destiny [will their destiny be in Hell!]
7. When they will be cast into [Hell], they will hear its roaring – as it boils up.
8. As [Hell] would tear up [from simmering] with [extreme] rage [at disbelievers.] Whenever a [new] troop is flung therein its keepers ask them: Came there to you no warner to [warn] you [of this punishment]?
9. They will say: "Yes, indeed, a warner did come to us, but we denied [him] and said: 'God has not revealed anything; surely you [messengers] are in error [far from the truth] so great, [for that you say: God has revealed to us a book and a revelation!']"
10. And they shall say: ― "Had we but listened [to the words of the messengers] or pondered [that to which they invited us], we should not have been among the inmates of the Blaze."
11. Thus, [will] they confess their sins [but their confession will not avail them anything at that time, for] the inmates of the Blaze will be far removed [from God's mercy.])
Also in the same soora 67
[Then God – be glorified – told about those of them who died, and He said:]
27. Then [when they died] they saw [the torment] close at hand; [at that time] the faces of the disbelievers were vexed, and it was said [to them by the angels]: "This is [the torment] for which you were asking [in the life of the World, with mocking; so now suffer of it.]"
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The interpretation or explanation gives the extension and more derived knowledge.
The explanation of the mysterious part of the Quran gives proof of its authenticity.
The Ambiguous and the similitude
Moreover, this aya and its explanation gives more knowledge about this topic:
Quran 41: 53, which means:
(We will show them Our portents [indicative of the truthfulness of Mohammed] on the horizons [of the sky] and among themselves in order that it will become evident to them that [the Quran] is the truth [from God and not from Mohammed.]
Is it not enough that your Lord [is a Witness to your truthfulness, O Mohammed, and He] does witness all things?)
See the explanation of this great aya:
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Regardless it's still an interpretation, which is subject to the fallibility of humans.
If you need it explained to you by someone, you automatically have to suspect the subject as being biased in whatever manner the person who is telling you about it wants.
I mean, you learn this from playing "Telephone" in school. You can learn this just by listening to gossip or general conversations in reality.
The ONLY way to get the 'proper' knowledge would be to get it from God directly, and not a mouthpiece, whether that be a book or a person.
That you advocate for both and not for God shows you're not a true believer, and why no one should believe you or your Version of God.
I see. So instead of trying of trying to learn the meaning behind the texts it is better to say "fuck it, this shit makes no sense" and live a bitter life complaining about those who do get it?
Well Moses, after you escaped Cis gender Republican Egypt, managed to cross the Red Sea, faced and overcame your fear of snakes, kept your shit together when half you followers decided Cis life was was better than wandering the desert, laid ground rules for your community to ahere to would you be humble enough to deny yourself of finally entering the "Land of Milk and Honey" or are you still in Egypt and it was all a pipe dream?
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The religion of the Islam is the God's religion, and it was not invented, except in the claims of the disbeliever.
I only convey the words of God to those ignorant about them. And to God is the severe punishment or whatever He likes.
True, but generally speaking it is almost correct.
The Arabic interpretation is almost correct, as it is almost the inspiration and proved more reasonable than other explanations.
The English translation is only the trying to convey in English the best and most correct Arabic explanation of the Quran: the interpretation by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly who only knew reading and writing Arabic, yet through inspiration, he explained the Quran: its plain and its mysterious ayat in a way that all others could not explain [in the past and at present.]
The interpreter of the Quran kept on updating the interpretation till his death at 1991.
The translator goes on updating the translation till now.
The Quran Interpretation - pdf
The Quran Interpretation (html)
When a prophet or a messenger calls people to God, they will divide into two groups: some will believe and others will not.
So there will be believers and non-believers: this is according to God's guidance and misguidance.
Therefore, the messenger calls people to God and will be a testimony against the disbelievers: that he conveyed the message yet they did not believe.
Why did God order Mohammed to ask the People of the Bible?
Here in the link above you will see why people do not believe, especially at the start of the messenger call: because they are wrongdoers who do not repent from their wrongdoing.
This meaning is repeated in many ways in the Quran, like some ayat I will cite in the following post.
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God - be glorified - said in the Quran 2: 6-7, which mean:
(6. Surely, those who deny [you, Mohammed, and the Quran]; it is alike to them – whether you warn them or do not warn them– they will not believe.
7. God has set a seal [of "Rayn" which is the rust] upon their hearts and [deafness] on their hearing, and on their sights is a veil [lest they should convert], and there awaits them a grievous chastisement.)
See the detailed explanation in this link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_6
(6. Surely, those who deny [you, Mohammed, and the Quran]; it is alike to them – whether you warn them or do not warn them– they will not believe.
7. God has set a seal [of "Rayn" which is the rust] upon their hearts and [deafness] on their hearing, and on their sights is a veil [lest they should convert], and there awaits them a grievous chastisement.)
See the detailed explanation in this link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_6
That has to mean some of it is not correct. Aside from that, it seems intrinsically unreasonable to me that if Allah wanted to get a clear message to mankind that he wouldn't have done so in the original. Islam does claim that the Quran is the last and most perfect revelation from a perfect being, why wasn't its meaning perfectly clear from the beginning? Allah shouldn't be so fuzzy minded that he can't make himself clear. It shouldn't require the elaborate and time consuming efforts al-Hilly and you, and probably thousands of others over the last 1500 years or so, have put into trying to interpret what it really means.
There could hardly be better evidence that the Quran is not in fact a divine revelation, but a human creation.
Almost isn't absolute and means there's error. Which means now the text is suspect, after all, which part is 'true' and which is 'almost' correct?
Sure, some will believe, some will not, and some will realize that whoever is calling people to God, isn't calling people to God, they are calling people to THEIR idea of God. Which means anyone that isn't that person, is a 'non-believer'.
Meanwhile people can still BELIEVE in God, and not follow the Quran, nor Torah, nor Bible, nor any other religious book written by men.
YOU admit that the Quran is ALMOST correct, which means even you admit it has flaws. And if it has flaws, then either A) The men who wrote it had flaws and thus were not writing word for word from God or B) the men never wrote for God at all, but for the Power that religion gives over people. Or C) God is flawed.