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Tecumsehsbones

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America is very fragile and so weak in relation to God Almighty.
I think your punishment by God is ready, and may only be postponed according to some wisdom of God in addition to that there may be some people who are just and good among the people there.
Moreover, there are many Muslims in America and Europe.
Also you in person, I think are very weak, and vulnerable to being cracked up so easily.
While God is very High and Lofty over His throne of majesty Who made all generations perish so easily.. and He kills kings and presidents and makes others stand instead of them.
And He makes communities perish and let others succeed instead of them.
Funny how well a .40-calibre slug solves that whole "High and Lofty" thing, fancy chair or not.
 

Torch light

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Funny how well a .40-calibre slug solves that whole "High and Lofty" thing, fancy chair or not.
You are foolish, certainly.
How all your pride might crumble:
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Better I should not reply to you .. it is forbidden I think.
 

Dexter Sinister

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What I can't figure out is why the hell he came here. And stayed.

Ain't exactly fertile ground.

Maybe he's been kicked off every other chat board in the world.
Yeah, bit of a mystery to me too, but a dedicated proselytizer knows no limits, he's got the gawd's truth and feels compelled to share it. He's been booted off of here twice, first as eanassir, which is his real name, E. A. Nassir, the translator of Al-Hilly's silly book, and as selfsame. They both made exactly the same claims Torch light does, endlessly cited and promoted the same silly book, same writing style, same dumb claims, gotta be the same guy, I can't believe there are three guys like that. His current persona's more moderate so it's survived longer, the first two were pretty angry and threatening.
 
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Yeah, bit of a mystery to me too, but a dedicated proselytizer knows no limits, he's got the gawd's truth and feels compelled to share it. He's been booted off of here twice, first as eanassir, which is his real name, E. A. Nassir, the translator of Al-Hilly's silly book, and as selfsame. They both made exactly the same claims Torch light does, endlessly cited and promoted the same silly book, same writing style, same dumb claims, gotta be the same guy, I can't believe there are three guys like that. His current persona's more moderate so it's survived longer, the first two were pretty angry and threatening.

Religious Incel?
 

Torch light

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I invite you to safety, and you invite me to loss and destruction in Hell.
So most of you refuse; in fact, I don't write to those who refuse in the first place but to others who might not hear the words of the Quran.
 

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Water and Life on Mars and the rest of the planets cannot be denied, by those claiming the science.

I tell you many points proved true over the past years, while those science-claiming like dexter and his group refused before:
They refused the existence of water and said no water on the planets: I said: the ice on tops of the high mountains of Mars and on the polar caps.. they said: this is only frozen CO2!? and they insisted and persisted in their words.
I said there are clouds drifted by the wind on Mars, dexter and his group said: these are not important, and the ice sublimates into water vapor without passing into the liquid state!
Anyhow, true scientists every now and then discover many things proving our idea about the existence of water and consequently life on the planets and some of their moons.
The planets are inhabited

The strange thing is that the approach of dexter and his group is not scientific: why shouldn't they say: this has not been discovered yet? It might have been accepted then.

Is not their insisting something obviously silly?

While they kept saying: Mars has only a thin atmosphere and the temperature there is very cold.. in spite, of the dust storms there and the clouds drifted by the wind, and in spite of the variation of temperature on different regions of Mars.

Isn't their insistence ridiculous? Yes, it is indeed.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Water and Life on Mars and the rest of the planets cannot be denied, by those claiming the science.

I tell you many points proved true over the past years, while those science-claiming like dexter and his group refused before:
They refused the existence of water and said no water on the planets: I said: the ice on tops of the high mountains of Mars and on the polar caps.. they said: this is only frozen CO2!? and they insisted and persisted in their words.
I said there are clouds drifted by the wind on Mars, dexter and his group said: these are not important, and the ice sublimates into water vapor without passing into the liquid state!
Anyhow, true scientists every now and then discover many things proving our idea about the existence of water and consequently life on the planets and some of their moons.
The planets are inhabited

The strange thing is that the approach of dexter and his group is not scientific: why shouldn't they say: this has not been discovered yet? It might have been accepted then.

Is not their insisting something obviously silly?

While they kept saying: Mars has only a thin atmosphere and the temperature there is very cold.. in spite, of the dust storms there and the clouds drifted by the wind, and in spite of the variation of temperature on different regions of Mars.

Isn't their insistence ridiculous? Yes, it is indeed.
I don't suppose you have any evidence?
 

Serryah

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I invite you to safety, and you invite me to loss and destruction in Hell.
So most of you refuse; in fact, I don't write to those who refuse in the first place but to others who might not hear the words of the Quran.

You 'invite' to what you think is safety, but you don't know, because the 'safety' is only for you, not for everyone or anyone else.

Hell is real only if you believe it so.
 

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Is this the word of a wise one? Will Hell be non-existing only for your own desire?
Hell is the core of the earth and the sun; every sun is hell in fact.
Therefore, it will be said to them in the Hereafter as in the Quran 36: 63-64, which mean:
(This is Hell with which you were promised [in the life of the World.]
Be broiled into it this day; for that you disbelieved.)
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/36.htm#a36_63
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Is this the word of a wise one? Will Hell be non-existing only for your own desire?
Hell is the core of the earth and the sun; every sun is hell in fact.
Therefore, it will be said to them in the Hereafter as in the Quran 36: 63-64, which mean:
(This is Hell with which you were promised [in the life of the World.]
Be broiled into it this day; for that you disbelieved.)
Still waiting for that evidence.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Water and Life on Mars and the rest of the planets cannot be denied, by those claiming the science.

... dexter and his group...
I have a group here? I didn't know that. Who's in it?
They refused the existence of water and said no water on the planets:
You were arguing as if there is liquid surface water on Mars as there is on Earth and it supports life in a form similar to Earthly life, and that's false. The science says that surface atmospheric pressure and temperature on Mars are such that liquid water cannot exist there, I don't recall any of "my group," whoever that is, categorically denying that there's any water there at all, and if there *is* any life there it's not large creatures like humans. With Tecumsehsbones (is he in my group?), I await your evidence. And just in case you're wondering, no, the Quran and Al-Hilly's interpretation of it don't contain any evidence for it, just unsubstantiated claims, so don't bother citing them.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I have a group here? I didn't know that. Who's in it?
Your fan club? Most of us.
You were arguing as if there is liquid surface water on Mars as there is on Earth and it supports life in a form similar to Earthly life, and that's false. The science says that surface atmospheric pressure and temperature on Mars are such that liquid water cannot exist there, I don't recall any of "my group," whoever that is, categorically denying that there's any water there at all, and if there *is* any life there it's not large creatures like humans. With Tecumsehsbones (is he in my group?), I await your evidence. And just in case you're wondering, no, the Quran and Al-Hilly's interpretation of it don't contain any evidence for it, just unsubstantiated claims, so don't bother citing them.
Evidence? We don' need no steenkin' evidence! We got a Really Old Book!
 

Ron in Regina

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Is this the word of a wise one? Will Hell be non-existing only for your own desire?
Hell is the core of the earth and the sun; every sun is hell in fact.
Therefore, it will be said to them in the Hereafter as in the Quran 36: 63-64, which mean:
(This is Hell with which you were promised [in the life of the World.]
Be broiled into it this day; for that you disbelieved.)
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/36.htm#a36_63
You and your God come from somewhere warm I’m going to assume. I’m not religious, but if I had to imagine a Hell, it wouldn’t be a warm place. I’ve worked outside at temperatures below -50°C and I believe that’s more Hellish than a hot place.

If Hell was real, Canadians might actually pay to vacation there in our winters just to get away from the cold for a week or two, cost of flights and Carbon Taxes permitting.
 
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Serryah

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Is this the word of a wise one? Will Hell be non-existing only for your own desire?

Not desire; belief. Hell is a belief as much as Heaven is.

Why? Because the concepts of Heaven and Hell change depending on the person speaking.

Hell is the core of the earth and the sun; every sun is hell in fact.

Maybe to you; to some, Hell is a frozen wasteland. Or a place equal to Purgatory. Or there are layers of hell depending on the evil's you've done.

Again, Hell changes depending on the person. Same with Heaven. Which is why I don't 'believe' in it.

Therefore, it will be said to them in the Hereafter as in the Quran 36: 63-64, which mean:
(This is Hell with which you were promised [in the life of the World.]
Be broiled into it this day; for that you disbelieved.)
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/36.htm#a36_63

I've no reason to believe there is a hell. The Bible, the Quran, the Torah, all speak of it but like anything else from those books/texts, it's based on things written by Man to gain and keep Power. Threats of 'damnation' have caused more harm to humans over the history of our species than most anything else. So nah, you can keep your hell. I'd rather not give it that kind of Power.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You and your God come from somewhere warm I’m going to assume. I’m not religious, but if I had to imagine a Hell, it wouldn’t be a warm place. I’ve worked outside at temperatures below -50°C and I believe that’s more Hellish than a hot place.

If Hell was real, Canadians might actually pay to vacation there in our winters just to get away from the cold for a week or two, cost of flights and Carbon Taxes permitting.
Dante Aligheri felt the same. The lowest circle of the Inferno was encased in perpetual ice.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Your fan club? Most of us.
Well now, kind of you to say so, be nice to think it's everybody but Torch light, who clearly is not and can never be a member (not something I lose any sleep over), but equally clearly, as indicated by the feedback I get, he's not alone either. I will, however, name no other names, they know who they are and so do I.
 
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