And again... (Another US Shooting)

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The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer cooperating with the Texas Department of Public Safety's investigation into the massacre at Robb Elementary School and the state's review of the law enforcement response, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News.
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Screw the dead kids and teachers. We got our retirement to protect!

Still. . . "multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News." We've already seen the reliability and accuracy of Texas law enforcement sources, so take it with a block of salt.
 
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I’m sure there’s lots of conflicting information but it is a pretty weird situation. It was Border Patrol agents who finally went into the classroom and shot the gunman dead.

The United States Justice Department is investigating police response to the shooting. The focus in the Uvalde, Texas mass shooting has shifted on to school district police chief Pete Arredondo and his fateful decision not to send officers inside the school.

Arredondo and his officers, as a Texan explained on Twitter, are not glorified hall monitors but part of government-funded special units armed and trained to prevent school shootings — the state-wide response to school shootings — and are independent of the town police department.

Armed officers in SUVs are outside every school at all times. They are special officers whose only job is to protect Texan children from school shootings.

Arredondo changed the status of the Robb Elementary School shooting from “active shooter” situation to “barricaded suspect” — a decision that allowed officers to hang back more than half an hour during the killing spree by Salvador Ramos, 18. According to the Daily Mail, some children continued to call 911 to tell police that Ramos was still shooting at them.

But a question hangs over the proceedings — which is whether Arredondo had his police radio with him. It is unknown if the 911 calls from the classroom were being communicated to the officers or to the incident commander…?????

Maybe nobody with a badge & gun present that day had a radio ‘cuz communications?
 
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It's funny that it's Texas, which periodically (by which I mean "whenever a Democrat is in the White House") threatens to secede cuz they don't like or trust the gol-dang gummint in Wash'tin. And when the rough, tough, rootin' tootin' Real Americans of the One-Star State faced the dread horror of an adolescent with a gun, they were unfortunately unable to get their trigger fingers out of their asses, and the day was saved by Feds.

Maybe nobody with a badge & gun present that day had a radio ‘cuz communications?
This hyar's Texas, boy. We don't need none o' yer fancy-Dan, citified communications. We have a problem, we'll just fire a couple shots in the air and the sheriff'll get up a posse. . .

Or maybe we'll wait for the hated Feds to come save us.
 

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It's funny that it's Texas, which periodically (by which I mean "whenever a Democrat is in the White House") threatens to secede cuz they don't like or trust the gol-dang gummint in Wash'tin. And when the rough, tough, rootin' tootin' Real Americans of the One-Star State faced the dread horror of an adolescent with a gun, they were unfortunately unable to get their trigger fingers out of their asses, and the day was saved by Feds.


This hyar's Texas, boy. We don't need none o' yer fancy-Dan, citified communications. We have a problem, we'll just fire a couple shots in the air and the sheriff'll get up a posse. . .

Or maybe we'll wait for the hated Feds to come save us.
Don’t mess with Texas .
How do you like the law just passed in California ? The one we’re schools no longer are required to report threatening and violent offenders to authorities . How many more instances of people falling through the cracks ?
 
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Whatabout the whatabout?

Whatabout the kids killed by drunk drivers? You don't care, obviously. You're perfectly happy to have someone at three times the legal limit blasting down the road. Who cares, move along and whine about texting, right?

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Got this from a teacher friend in the US. Just for the Education of those who may think arming teachers is a GREAT idea.
ummm, well it would be voluntary would't it? Incidentally, I agree with almost everything said above.
 

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Listen. . . they've had ideas about "hardening" schools at least since Columbine.

You know why they don't work? Because they don't get implemented. Pro-death politicians babble about spending billions for super-high-tech, maximum-security lockdown gear, and won't pony up a few thousand bucks for serious locks on classroom doors, or armor shields for the door window and the lower portions of the classroom windows.

Because right-wing politicians do. . . not. . . care about kids being mass murdered in schools.
 

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Listen. . . they've had ideas about "hardening" schools at least since Columbine.

You know why they don't work? Because they don't get implemented. Pro-death politicians babble about spending billions for super-high-tech, maximum-security lockdown gear, and won't pony up a few thousand bucks for serious locks on classroom doors, or armor shields for the door window and the lower portions of the classroom windows.

Because right-wing politicians do. . . not. . . care about kids being mass murdered in schools.
Do they have those things in states like California or New York that wouldn’t know a right wing politician if they saw him ?
 

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Listen. . . they've had ideas about "hardening" schools at least since Columbine.

You know why they don't work? Because they don't get implemented. Pro-death politicians babble about spending billions for super-high-tech, maximum-security lockdown gear, and won't pony up a few thousand bucks for serious locks on classroom doors, or armor shields for the door window and the lower portions of the classroom windows.

Because right-wing politicians do. . . not. . . care about kids being mass murdered in schools.

They barely care about the kids, and the schools, as it is.

This is all just political-play.
 

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She died upholding the Girl Scout Promise. For that, one final badge
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Jessica Lipscomb, The Washington Post
Publishing date:Jun 01, 2022 • 18 hours ago • 3 minute read • Join the conversation

In mid-May, 10-year-old Amerie Jo Garza participated in a “bridging ceremony” with the Girl Scouts, where she and her fellow Juniors would have recited the Girl Scout Promise:


“On my honour, I will try to serve God and my country, to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout Law.”

The fourth-grader had only joined the Scouts in December, but the “helping people at all times” part came naturally. She was known to defend a classmate in Uvalde, Texas, from bullies. She was always watching out for her 3-year-old brother, Zayne. In 2021, she’d been honoured with her school’s Heart of Gold award.

On Friday, less than two weeks after the bridging ceremony, Amerie was recognized at another Girl Scouts presentation. This time, she was not there to accept the honours: The Robb Elementary School student was given a posthumous Bronze Cross, a national award for Scouts who risk their lives to save others, after she was shot dead by an 18-year-old gunman while apparently trying to call for help. The girl was among 19 children killed in the May 24 school shooting.


In a May 27 letter to Amerie’s family, Girl Scouts chief executive Sofia Chang said Amerie “embodies what it means to be a girl of courage, confidence, and character who makes the world a better place.”

“On May 24, 2022, Amerie did all she could to save the lives of her classmates and teachers and gave her life attempting to protect those around her,” Chang wrote. “Through her willingness to take decisive action in the midst of this devastating emergency, Amerie serves as a true example of leadership in action.”

Amerie’s stepfather, Angel Garza, told CNN’s Anderson Cooper last week that after the shooter entered the elementary school, Amerie pulled out her phone and was attempting to call 911 when the gunman shot her. Amerie had been given the cellphone only two weeks earlier as a present for her 10th birthday, her stepfather said.


“She just died trying to save her classmates,” Garza said, weeping as he clutched the girl’s photograph. “She just wanted to save everyone.”

It’s unclear from official accounts whether Amerie was able to make contact with police. On Friday, authorities in Texas disclosed 911 calls from two students who desperately sought help as the shooter fired at their classmates; both of those students survived the massacre, according to Steven C. McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety. McCraw said police had made “the wrong decision” by delaying entering the classroom and taking out the shooter.

Born in 2012, Amerie grew up in Uvalde surrounded by a large family of grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. She hated dresses, loved Play-Doh and devoured meals at Chick-fil-A, her favourite restaurant. When not in school, she spent her days swimming and drawing. She hoped to someday become an art teacher.


A spokeswoman for the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas told The Washington Post in an email that Amerie was a Junior who had joined the organization around Christmas 2021. On Friday, her family was presented with a Kelly green sash worn by the Scouts in her rank, with the Bronze Cross pinned below her troop number, 7000.

“She deserved it,” Amerie’s grandmother Berlinda Arreola told People magazine, which first reported news of the award. “Our baby gave up her life for this, but she deserved it.”

In the days since Amerie was killed, her fellow Girl Scouts have paid tribute to her legacy. On Monday, at a Memorial Day parade in Cranford, N.J., a group of Brownies marched with felt patches bearing Amerie’s name pinned to their uniforms. On Tuesday, a troop in San Antonio wore purple, her favourite colour, in her honour.

And as a crowd entered a church later that afternoon for Amerie’s funeral, several Girl Scouts filed into the vestibule to pay their respects.
 

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I recollect a sign on an Air Force base. . . "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom."

Maybe we should say the same thing about the gunfire and screams of grief and pain.
 
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I recollect a sign on an Air Force base. . . "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom."

Maybe we should say the same thing about the gunfire and screams of grief and pain.


Can't find the 19 children in Texas ?? Or is it so far down the list now..
 

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She died upholding the Girl Scout Promise. For that, one final badge
Author of the article:Washington Post
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Jessica Lipscomb, The Washington Post
Publishing date:Jun 01, 2022 • 18 hours ago • 3 minute read • Join the conversation

In mid-May, 10-year-old Amerie Jo Garza participated in a “bridging ceremony” with the Girl Scouts, where she and her fellow Juniors would have recited the Girl Scout Promise:


“On my honour, I will try to serve God and my country, to help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout Law.”

The fourth-grader had only joined the Scouts in December, but the “helping people at all times” part came naturally. She was known to defend a classmate in Uvalde, Texas, from bullies. She was always watching out for her 3-year-old brother, Zayne. In 2021, she’d been honoured with her school’s Heart of Gold award.

On Friday, less than two weeks after the bridging ceremony, Amerie was recognized at another Girl Scouts presentation. This time, she was not there to accept the honours: The Robb Elementary School student was given a posthumous Bronze Cross, a national award for Scouts who risk their lives to save others, after she was shot dead by an 18-year-old gunman while apparently trying to call for help. The girl was among 19 children killed in the May 24 school shooting.


In a May 27 letter to Amerie’s family, Girl Scouts chief executive Sofia Chang said Amerie “embodies what it means to be a girl of courage, confidence, and character who makes the world a better place.”

“On May 24, 2022, Amerie did all she could to save the lives of her classmates and teachers and gave her life attempting to protect those around her,” Chang wrote. “Through her willingness to take decisive action in the midst of this devastating emergency, Amerie serves as a true example of leadership in action.”

Amerie’s stepfather, Angel Garza, told CNN’s Anderson Cooper last week that after the shooter entered the elementary school, Amerie pulled out her phone and was attempting to call 911 when the gunman shot her. Amerie had been given the cellphone only two weeks earlier as a present for her 10th birthday, her stepfather said.


“She just died trying to save her classmates,” Garza said, weeping as he clutched the girl’s photograph. “She just wanted to save everyone.”

It’s unclear from official accounts whether Amerie was able to make contact with police. On Friday, authorities in Texas disclosed 911 calls from two students who desperately sought help as the shooter fired at their classmates; both of those students survived the massacre, according to Steven C. McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety. McCraw said police had made “the wrong decision” by delaying entering the classroom and taking out the shooter.

Born in 2012, Amerie grew up in Uvalde surrounded by a large family of grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. She hated dresses, loved Play-Doh and devoured meals at Chick-fil-A, her favourite restaurant. When not in school, she spent her days swimming and drawing. She hoped to someday become an art teacher.


A spokeswoman for the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas told The Washington Post in an email that Amerie was a Junior who had joined the organization around Christmas 2021. On Friday, her family was presented with a Kelly green sash worn by the Scouts in her rank, with the Bronze Cross pinned below her troop number, 7000.

“She deserved it,” Amerie’s grandmother Berlinda Arreola told People magazine, which first reported news of the award. “Our baby gave up her life for this, but she deserved it.”

In the days since Amerie was killed, her fellow Girl Scouts have paid tribute to her legacy. On Monday, at a Memorial Day parade in Cranford, N.J., a group of Brownies marched with felt patches bearing Amerie’s name pinned to their uniforms. On Tuesday, a troop in San Antonio wore purple, her favourite colour, in her honour.

And as a crowd entered a church later that afternoon for Amerie’s funeral, several Girl Scouts filed into the vestibule to pay their respects.

As I saw pointed out for this:

SOLDIERS are the ones that should be posthumously awarded things, NOT children.

Although good on the Girl Scouts for doing this.

Maybe they need to start having badges for "Guns" starting with Brownies.
 

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Boy o boy the Libs sure have you under their finger.
Looks like time for a medical lesson for a bunch of people.
Abortion removes a fetus from a pregnant woman. A fetus is not a person. It will not be a person until removed from the womb and detached from the mother. Life begins at birth, not conception. This is high school biology.
 

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Your point is to whatabout. Because that's all you've got.

Because you cannot come up with one. . . single. . . legitimate civilian use for a weapon that can put over 100 rounds downrange in less than a minute.

Except, of course, the clear, present, and common danger of. . . feral hogs!
Bears and cougars(4 legged) is the main reason people around here pack a sidearm in the bush. Not to kill them, but to scare them off.
 
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