Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[JLM]

By the time salmon get to Pitt Medows they are only suitable for dog food.

So what are they suitable for by the time they reach Adams River?

 

[taxslave]

What a bunch of unmitigated B.S. , glad I don’t subscribe to MacLeans , who would pay to read that .

Liberal supporters. Anti rights nuts.

 

[taxslave]

You think all Asians in California are illegals?
My, what an ignoramus you are! Clearly, you are unaware there have been Asians in California in large numbers since 1850.
But don't let that interfere with your race hate now, mmm-kay?

Next time I will remember to put a smiley emoji on sarcastic posts so the not too bright among us might be able to figure it out

 

[taxslave]

So what are they suitable for by the time they reach Adams River?

Composting
I can't imagine eating a salmon after it has left salt water.

 

[JLM]

Composting
I can't imagine eating a salmon after it has left salt water.

I know people have no problem eating the ones pulled out of Mabel Lake 30 miles east of the Okanagan. I believe my son caught one or more there.

 

[pgs]

By the time salmon get to Pitt Medows they are only suitable for dog food.

Not so , the big lunkers that go up the Pitt and Harrison might get a little soft , however you can catch good hard , Adams , Horsefly , Quesnel and others that are very good as far up as Hope . That said the best Sockeye are found right at the mouth where they stop eating . Personally I prefer mine from Johnston Straight where they are green and hard .

 

[pgs]

I know people have no problem eating the ones pulled out of Mabel Lake 30 miles east of the Okanagan. I believe my son caught one or more there.

Yikes , not much fat left by the time they makeMabel Lake , that is further then Adams spawning grounds .

 

[spilledthebeer]

Guns and white supremacists don’t mix

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When Justin Trudeau was first elected as Liberal Prime Minister, he promised a new Canada—one based on a commitment to feminism and Indigenous rights. He also promised to address the loopholes in the gun laws created by the former Conservative government under Stephen Harper. Bill C-71, which was intended to strengthen rules around access to firearms especially for those with a history of violence, provided some improvements but fell short of what most Canadians wanted. Canadians want to feel safe.

That cannot happen if hate groups are allowed to buy hand guns and assault weapons.

The Government’s defence of Bill C-71 was framed almost entirely with verbiage like “gangs and guns” and “gender neutral,” ignoring the bulk of the statistical evidence about gun violence in Canada. Women in Canada represent a higher proportion of victims of firearms violence than their male perpetrators. It is not “gender neutral” to worry more about the interests of the primarily male gun lobby and concerns of rural men than the voices of female victims. Further, the voices of Indigenous women were excluded despite the ongoing genocide of murdered and missing Indigenous women and girls.

The rise of white nationalism has happened so quickly in Canada that governments do not have a handle on the serious threat it poses to public safety and national security. The white nationalist movement (often referred to as the populist movement), has seen far-right Conservatives take increasingly more radical positions that are often racist, sexist and anti-human rights, often aligning themselves with the gun lobby.

Through his own words and actions, U.S. President Donald Trump has further exacerbated the situation by creating a space for those consumed with hatred to share and act on their views more openly. Perhaps emboldened by Trump, the friends, colleagues and affiliates of white nationalists are now being elected as political leaders, hired within universities, and in the background agitating as pro-pipeliners, pro-choice, anti-immigration, anti-Indigenous and pro-gun.

The gun lobby acts as though there is a right to bear arms in Canada, but this is not the United States. The Supreme Court of Canada held—via the historic R v. Hasselwander case—that no such right exists. In fact, the only people with constitutionally-protected rights to bear arms are First Nations whose treaties and Aboriginal rights guarantee them the right to hunt and own rifles. But no one hunts with semi-automatic military weapons. So this has never been about hunting.

While not all gun owners have links to extremists, Canada needs to keep pace with the threats before the threats overtake Canada.

Firearms are often used in hate crimes against racialized and other identifiable groups. The murders of six and injury of 19 Muslims at the Islamic Cultural Centre of Quebec City, is only one example of what happens when those who hate have easy access to guns. We can never forget that it was the mass shooting of 14 women at École Polytechnique in Montreal that pushed the conversation of gun control back onto the agenda.

The one target common to all right-wing extremist groups in Canada are “Aboriginal peoples” and the killing of Leo Lachance is just one example. Leo Lachance, a Cree man from Whitefish reserve, was shot and killed by a white supremacist, Carney Nerland, in Prince Albert in 1991. Nerland was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and leader of his local Aryan Nation group who got off with a plea bargain, claiming a misfire. Allowing hate groups, who condone lethal violence, to arm themselves with handguns and military-style assaults rifles, represents a significant public safety threat.

One need only look at the shooting death of unarmed Indigenous youth, Colten Boushie or the recent shooting of another Native youth, Kristian Ayoungman as prime examples of why there needs to be stricter gun control, especially on the Prairies. Both of these shootings are reported to involve elements of anti-First Nation racism, something that has been prevalent on the Prairies for decades. It wasn’t that long ago that the Neil Stonechild Inquiry brought the practice of “starlight tours” to the forefront. This is the practice by police of detaining a Native man, driving him out of town and abandoning him there. Racism is lethal for Indigenous peoples, and easy access to guns by those who hold racist views increase the risk.

To treat gun control as sex-neutral or race-neutral further perpetuates the risk to women and Indigenous peoples. Canada should be engaging with First Nations and Indigenous women’s group to address the threat of gun violence by both white nationalist hate groups and individuals with extreme right-wing, racist views.

www.macleans.ca/opinion/guns-and-white-supremacists-dont-mix/


Good frickin' grief. Well pammie, if FNs are willing to give up every single gun in their possession, I might think you have a point considering that for many FNs it is people in their own communities who they fear most.

TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Violence and suicide are endemic in native reserves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And black kids who have bought into the idea that being good in school..............................


so you can get a decent job and sensible life......................................



means SELLING OUT TO WHITES are DISPROPORTIONATELY INVOLVED IN CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In addition - BAD LIE-beral immigration policy is bringing in hordes of illegals............................


who have NO HOPE of succeeding in Canada in any legal and self supporting way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral immigration madness is creating a social and criminal under class..............................


that both HATES WHITE SOCIETY - AND DESPERATELY NEEDS WHITE CHARITY to survive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And yet LIE-berals want to blame white hunters LEGALLY pursuing their hobby.........................


for the violence and smuggled guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why ALL LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It is all based on false logic and shameless vote buying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the gravy needed to buy those votes has run out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JLM]

Yikes , not much fat left by the time they makeMabel Lake , that is further then Adams spawning grounds .

I'm not positive if those are spawning salmon or ones that normally live there. Do salmon HAVE to live in the ocean?

 

[pgs]

I'm not positive if those are spawning salmon or ones that normally live there. Do salmon HAVE to live in the ocean?

Those spring in MabelLake go up through the Thompson to the Sicamous and into the lake . There are land locked sockeye , which we call Kokanee but I don’t know if the other species do the same .

 

[JLM]

Those spring in MabelLake go up through the Thompson to the Sicamous and into the lake . There are land locked sockeye , which we call Kokanee but I don’t know if the other species do the same .

I'm pretty sure salmon are caught in Mabel Lake during the summer before the spawning season, but I'm not positive.

 

[taxslave]

Far as I know Kokanee are an adaption of an ocean species that got landlocked. There are some where I grew up that got stuck behind a dam. That was the story from the oldtimers anyway. I will try to remember to ask our envirommentalists at work.

 

[taxslave]

Wiki says they are a subspecies of Sockeye and the two use the same spawning grounds but the ones I mentioned is not accessible to ocean fish.

 

[pgs]

I'm pretty sure salmon are caught in Mabel Lake during the summer before the spawning season, but I'm not positive.

Those fish have a long way to travel and enter the Fraser in the spring , hence their name . They will spawn up there before the sockeye arrive . But chinook are not all spring some enter the river in summer and others into the fall .

 

[pgs]

Far as I know Kokanee are an adaption of an ocean species that got landlocked. There are some where I grew up that got stuck behind a dam. That was the story from the oldtimers anyway. I will try to remember to ask our envirommentalists at work.

Pretty much . They look and taste like ocean Sox but are not as large . They are found in many systems in B.C.

 

[taxslave]

Those fish have a long way to travel and enter the Fraser in the spring , hence their name . They will spawn up there before the sockeye arrive . But chinook are not all spring some enter the river in summer and others into the fall .

Springs also spawn multiple times.

 

[pgs]

Springs also spawn multiple times.

Nope , one time only , spawn and die . Steelhead , will spawn and return to the ocean one or more times , but they are an ocean going rainbow trout .

 

[spilledthebeer]

I'm not positive if those are spawning salmon or ones that normally live there. Do salmon HAVE to live in the ocean?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joyless LIE-beral is discussing migrating Salmon in a thread about GUN CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST LOOK AT THE LIE-berals COWERING AWAY FROM REAL ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Colpy]

Interesting facts;



Canada has risen to 7th place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with almost over 12.7 million (legal) guns in the country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country


Canada is at 152nd place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


That means only 6 countries have a greater number of guns per capita, yet 151 countries have a worse murder rate.


Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.

 

[JLM]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joyless LIE-beral is discussing migrating Salmon in a thread about GUN CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be a f**king idiot, THAT was the thread where the discussion got started!