Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Justin Trudeau stood in the House today, and (in reply to Scheer's statement that he would repeal the latest gun bill) claimed that if Scheer gets in and does so, people will be able to buy guns without a license or background check.
Um.......No.
Licenses to purchase have been required since 1979, and Trudeau's legislation did not address purchase licensing........so a repeal would not affect the requirement for purchase.
Either the PM (aka Mobtreal's village idiot) does not understand the legislation he just passed, or he is a lying PoS.
So, liar or incompetent, or both.
I'm going with Option Three.
Um.......No.
Licenses to purchase have been required since 1979, and Trudeau's legislation did not address purchase licensing........so a repeal would not affect the requirement for purchase.
Either the PM (aka Mobtreal's village idiot) does not understand the legislation he just passed, or he is a lying PoS.
So, liar or incompetent, or both.
I'm going with Option Three.
That's what fascists always say.
It's called "psychological projection".
Psychological projection
Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1]
For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
That's what fascists always say.
It's called "psychological projection".
Psychological projection
Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1]
For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
.... and you're completely off your fukcing head.
Oh now.................................
face it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy Justin has RUN OUT of prepared talking points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now he just BLURTS STUFF OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy often contradicts himself because he is TRYING ON various pieces of Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the idiot Boy THINKS OUR attention span is a short as HIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feds eyeing guns 'designed to hunt people' as they ponder possible curbs
If you can't change minds change the narrative
If you can't change minds change the narrative
For whatever it may be worth, you and me only get on about so-so, and I've never found you to be anything remotely related to fascist.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh...........................
that`s nice...........................................
you and Bondo having a LIE-beral "love in"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But isnt INCEST ILLEGAL in Maryland?????????????????
Probably not a bad idea to cut CC a little slack. I've been noticing quite a few grammatical errors in his posts, so he MAY be suffering from the onset of dementia. I know I am so can recognize the signs.
Less said probably the better. Out of sympathy I was thinking of giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I'm suffering from an Android device with a random character generating "Spell-Check" that was created by a zitty teenager out on the West Coast of 'Merica. Sometimes, it changes words at the very end of a sentence as it's "Artificial Intelligence" tries to turn everything into Millennial Speak.
Matt Gurney: Desperate Liberals get set for a gun control splash
In what the Canadian Press described as a “sharply worded statement,” Bill Blair, the federal government’s minister of Border Security and Organized Crime, declared this week that the Liberal government was looking at cracking down on civilian ownership of “military weapons designed to hunt people.” No option has been ruled out, the statement concluded.
Strong stuff! Sounds like the Liberals are planning some kind of big move on gun control. To read the report of Blair’s statement, you would almost never realize that the Liberals just spent more than a year working on a gun control bill that cleared the Senate this week. And guess what? The bill doesn’t crack down on assault weapons or handguns. You know why? Because such action isn’t necessary and the Liberals know it.
Canada’s gun control debate has always been politicized. Even setting aside the merits of the various arguments, there’s a political reality that underlies all the positioning of the various parties: the Liberals (and NDP) see gun control as something that pleases their urban-voter bases while the Tories know it’s unpopular in their rural strongholds.
That reality was evident when the Liberals introduced Bill C-71 in March of 2018, after spending a long time studying the issue. I won’t recap its various provisions at length here, but a brief overview of C-71’s core provisions is required. It was a mixed bag: some good, some bad, some very bad. Expanding the time period covered by background checks for would-be firearm owners was, to me, unobjectionable. So was requiring verification that a firearms licence was valid before completing a private sale of a non-restricted firearm from one owner to another. I don’t know how you enforce that, but it’s not a terrible idea.
In the bad category, we had the Liberals reimposing nonsense paperwork obligations for gun owners who need to visit a gunsmith for a repair, or are travelling to a gun show. The Liberals insist a special permit be obtained before making such a trip, which is absurd. There’s no logical reason someone who’s deemed eligible to own a firearm would be deemed ineligible to have it repaired. It’s pure political theatre. That’s bad. And the very bad: determining the classification of a firearm — whether it’s a non-restricted firearm, or a restricted or a prohibited — is being left at the discretion of the RCMP. The RCMP are not accountable to the public in the way that elected officials are and, in a democracy, the power to effectively write laws — which is what firearms classifications amount to — is the job of the people’s elected representatives, not the same police force that would then enforce the law. In almost any other context, the Liberals would grasp the insanity of putting the police in charge of creating the laws they will then enforce. When it comes to guns, well, democratic accountability can take a backseat, apparently.
All that being said, C-71 was, as I wrote at the time it was revealed, a surprisingly modest move by the Liberals. It was clear to me that they knew their political base expected them to do something on gun control, but that the Liberals, having looked at the matter, were forced to reluctantly conclude that Canada’s existing gun control laws were … about right. C-71, in most ways, amounts to quibbles with the status quo the Conservatives left them with (though the empowering of the RCMP is genuinely alarming).
On balance, C-71 was enough to let the Liberals say, more or less honestly, that they’d “toughened up” our laws, without really having to do much. They were clearly not worried about public safety.
And that, really, gave the game away.
C-71 isn’t a perfect bill. It’s not even a good one. But it was, at least, a thoughtful one. The Liberals spent years looking at gun control in Canada. They did consultations. They talked with experts. They tried to balance the needs of their urban voters with their rural constituents. Effort was put into it. It was a serious effort. I don’t have to agree with it (I don’t) to respect the process that brought the Liberals to it. C-71 was their honest view on what Canada needed to do on gun control: on balance, not all that much.
And that’s what makes all the public musing about major crackdowns to come, by the prime minister or Bill Blair or other Liberal MPs, so transparently ridiculous. The Liberals have been advancing two simultaneous narratives. One they’ve made publicly and loudly, fuming that there’s a problem in Canada and they’re gosh-darned determined to fix it! No options are off the table! “Assault weapon” bans? We’ll look into that! A handgun ban? Being considered! That’s the one intended for public consumption, especially now, as the
Liberals find themselves down in the polls and desperate to shore up a demoralized and angered base.
The other narrative is the quiet one, the legislative one — where a bill was studied, written, debated, and eventually passed through our normal processes. C-71 is what the Liberals’ political head told them was needed; all the shouting is what their political gut is demanding.
The Liberals are almost certainly going to make some other big splashy move on guns, either before the election or during it, perhaps by including something juicy in their campaign proposals. That was clear to me as soon as New Zealand cracked down on guns after the Christchurch massacre. There was no way, I concluded, that Prime Minister Trudeau would let some other young progressive politician get all the praise.
So stay tuned for whatever it is the Liberals ultimately decide to come out with. And when they make their announcement, compare it to what they carefully put into C-71. The difference between the two proposals will be a useful measuring stick for Liberal electoral desperation.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matt-gurney-desperate-liberals-get-set-for-a-gun-control-splash
In what the Canadian Press described as a “sharply worded statement,” Bill Blair, the federal government’s minister of Border Security and Organized Crime, declared this week that the Liberal government was looking at cracking down on civilian ownership of “military weapons designed to hunt people.” No option has been ruled out, the statement concluded.
Strong stuff! Sounds like the Liberals are planning some kind of big move on gun control. To read the report of Blair’s statement, you would almost never realize that the Liberals just spent more than a year working on a gun control bill that cleared the Senate this week. And guess what? The bill doesn’t crack down on assault weapons or handguns. You know why? Because such action isn’t necessary and the Liberals know it.
Canada’s gun control debate has always been politicized. Even setting aside the merits of the various arguments, there’s a political reality that underlies all the positioning of the various parties: the Liberals (and NDP) see gun control as something that pleases their urban-voter bases while the Tories know it’s unpopular in their rural strongholds.
That reality was evident when the Liberals introduced Bill C-71 in March of 2018, after spending a long time studying the issue. I won’t recap its various provisions at length here, but a brief overview of C-71’s core provisions is required. It was a mixed bag: some good, some bad, some very bad. Expanding the time period covered by background checks for would-be firearm owners was, to me, unobjectionable. So was requiring verification that a firearms licence was valid before completing a private sale of a non-restricted firearm from one owner to another. I don’t know how you enforce that, but it’s not a terrible idea.
In the bad category, we had the Liberals reimposing nonsense paperwork obligations for gun owners who need to visit a gunsmith for a repair, or are travelling to a gun show. The Liberals insist a special permit be obtained before making such a trip, which is absurd. There’s no logical reason someone who’s deemed eligible to own a firearm would be deemed ineligible to have it repaired. It’s pure political theatre. That’s bad. And the very bad: determining the classification of a firearm — whether it’s a non-restricted firearm, or a restricted or a prohibited — is being left at the discretion of the RCMP. The RCMP are not accountable to the public in the way that elected officials are and, in a democracy, the power to effectively write laws — which is what firearms classifications amount to — is the job of the people’s elected representatives, not the same police force that would then enforce the law. In almost any other context, the Liberals would grasp the insanity of putting the police in charge of creating the laws they will then enforce. When it comes to guns, well, democratic accountability can take a backseat, apparently.
All that being said, C-71 was, as I wrote at the time it was revealed, a surprisingly modest move by the Liberals. It was clear to me that they knew their political base expected them to do something on gun control, but that the Liberals, having looked at the matter, were forced to reluctantly conclude that Canada’s existing gun control laws were … about right. C-71, in most ways, amounts to quibbles with the status quo the Conservatives left them with (though the empowering of the RCMP is genuinely alarming).
On balance, C-71 was enough to let the Liberals say, more or less honestly, that they’d “toughened up” our laws, without really having to do much. They were clearly not worried about public safety.
And that, really, gave the game away.
C-71 isn’t a perfect bill. It’s not even a good one. But it was, at least, a thoughtful one. The Liberals spent years looking at gun control in Canada. They did consultations. They talked with experts. They tried to balance the needs of their urban voters with their rural constituents. Effort was put into it. It was a serious effort. I don’t have to agree with it (I don’t) to respect the process that brought the Liberals to it. C-71 was their honest view on what Canada needed to do on gun control: on balance, not all that much.
And that’s what makes all the public musing about major crackdowns to come, by the prime minister or Bill Blair or other Liberal MPs, so transparently ridiculous. The Liberals have been advancing two simultaneous narratives. One they’ve made publicly and loudly, fuming that there’s a problem in Canada and they’re gosh-darned determined to fix it! No options are off the table! “Assault weapon” bans? We’ll look into that! A handgun ban? Being considered! That’s the one intended for public consumption, especially now, as the
Liberals find themselves down in the polls and desperate to shore up a demoralized and angered base.
The other narrative is the quiet one, the legislative one — where a bill was studied, written, debated, and eventually passed through our normal processes. C-71 is what the Liberals’ political head told them was needed; all the shouting is what their political gut is demanding.
The Liberals are almost certainly going to make some other big splashy move on guns, either before the election or during it, perhaps by including something juicy in their campaign proposals. That was clear to me as soon as New Zealand cracked down on guns after the Christchurch massacre. There was no way, I concluded, that Prime Minister Trudeau would let some other young progressive politician get all the praise.
So stay tuned for whatever it is the Liberals ultimately decide to come out with. And when they make their announcement, compare it to what they carefully put into C-71. The difference between the two proposals will be a useful measuring stick for Liberal electoral desperation.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matt-gurney-desperate-liberals-get-set-for-a-gun-control-splash