Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case

Decapoda

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Enough sniping from the sidelines. No more interviews to news magazines. No more letters to constituents. If these women have something to say then the call shouldn't be 'Let Her Speak', it should be 'Stand Up and Speak'.
It is entirely possible that JWR is trying to speak by way of the only venue left for her to put forward additional information of relevance.

Justice committee receives promised extra material from Wilson-Raybould on SNC-Lavalin

Inconsistencies like that are why opposition members of the justice committee fought to invite her back to testify for a second time.

That privilege of rebuttal was offered to former Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick as well as Nathalie Drouin, the deputy attorney general.

But Liberals dominate the justice committee and used their majority to shut down the limited probe into the allegations last Tuesday.



So...what happens if she chose to "stand up and speak"...to break cabinet confidentiality?

Cabinet confidentiality in the SNC-Lavalin affair — what happens if it’s broken?

If a lawyer breaks privilege, she could face expulsion from the bar, MacFarland explained.

“She would effectively lose her licence to practise law so there could be very real consequences,” he said.


I guess her commitment to stand up and speak is entirely dependent on her willingness is to throw away her career, integrity, and everything she's work for, as well as her commitment to personal ethics. Would you be willing to break ethical precedence and sacrifice everything you value to clean up Trudeau's filthy, immoral mess?
 
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spilledthebeer

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It is entirely possible that JWR is trying to speak by way of the only venue left for her to put forward additional information of relevance.

Justice committee receives promised extra material from Wilson-Raybould on SNC-Lavalin

Inconsistencies like that are why opposition members of the justice committee fought to invite her back to testify for a second time.

That privilege of rebuttal was offered to former Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick as well as Nathalie Drouin, the deputy attorney general.

But Liberals dominate the justice committee and used their majority to shut down the limited probe into the allegations last Tuesday.



So...what happens if she chose to "stand up and speak"...to break cabinet confidentiality?

Cabinet confidentiality in the SNC-Lavalin affair — what happens if it’s broken?

If a lawyer breaks privilege, she could face expulsion from the bar, MacFarland explained.

“She would effectively lose her licence to practise law so there could be very real consequences,” he said.


I guess her commitment to stand up and speak is entirely dependent on her willingness is to throw away her career, integrity, and everything she's work for, as well as her commitment to personal ethics. Would you be willing to break ethical precedence and sacrifice everything you value to clean up Trudeau's filthy, immoral mess?




Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you get thrown out of the LIE-beral party and must sit as an independent MP........................


then there is NOBODY to pay your legal bills for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With the added bonus that those in govt get to use our tax dollars to harass people like Raybould and Philpot!!!!!!!!!!!



And of course as I have said JWR WANTS to continue as a LIE-beral apparently for the sake of her career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What that tells me is she is a LOYAL little soldier to the unworthy party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Ssssh don’t remind them about the corruption of native leadership. Come on we need reconciliation.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Reconciliation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In deliberately RACIST - anti white LIE-beral Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is truly absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating the mad hypocrisy of LIE-beral relations with the native population. With NDP doorknob Jagmeet Singh wisely staying clear of the crap- SO FAR! Sadly-if he does ever get the power he craves- his few comments so far suggest he will be WORSE than LIE-berals! See my own comments in brackets):

First Nations cigarette maker suing the feds for billions.

By Mark Bonokoski, Postmedia Network. First posted: Saturday, July 15, 2017 06:11 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, July 15, 2017 06:18 PM EDT

In an ironic twist, the biggest manufacturer of Native cigarettes in Canada is suing the federal government for $3 billion for failing to stop the proliferation of contraband tobacco producers.

The lawsuit, filed in the Ontario Court of Appeal at the end of June by Grand River Enterprises’ Jerry Montour and three other principals in the company, accuses the Attorney General of Canada of “malfeasance in public office, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty, and breach of aboriginal rights.”

The foursome, all status Indians, is seeking $1.5 billion in damages for revenues allegedly lost to the approximately 50 unlicensed and therefore illegal cigarette manufacturers in the province competing with their brands, and another $1.5 billion for the government’s failure to close them down.

The feds, in turn, have yet to file a statement of defence.

The irony, of course, is that GRE manufactures millions of cigarettes a day at its processing plants on the Six Nations reserve near Brantford, cigarettes that show up at smoke shacks on reserves across the province, and are then sold illegally to non-aboriginals for almost two-thirds less than smokes sold legally at convenience stores.

A tax-free baggie of 200 loose cigarettes, in fact, can cost as little as $8 at a reserve smoke shack.

The resulting loss in tax revenues from the illegal sale of contraband tobacco to both the Canada Revenue Agency and the province of Ontario represents almost a billion dollars annually.

(Natives of course were the first to discover Tobacco and to smoke it in a pipe on ceremonial occasions. They introduced the weed to Europeans who adapted the stuff for their convenience- creating the cigar and later the cigarette businesses. When native bands began signing their treaties with white govt, they were granted the ongoing right to grow and use Tobacco as part of their cultural heritage. But of course cigarettes and cigars and `sin taxes` on these products are a part of modern life in white society. It is only in recent years-as the sin taxes got ever higher- that natives began bending their cultural heritage to include selling cigarettes to white people while avoiding the sin taxes that make cigarettes so costly in local stores. Natives who defend their right to sell cigarettes without collecting or paying sin taxes are not engaged in any traditional practice- they are simply money grubbing tax cheats.)

The lawsuit is based on two theories of liability – the “forced incorporation” of GRE, and the “failure” of the federal government to “enforce” its agreement to come down hard on First Nation cigarette manufacturers churning out products without a licence.

It was a raid by the RCMP on GRE back in the mid-1990s that resulted in GRE reluctantly agreeing to pay federal excise taxes to avoid being shut down, with the feds then promising to “intensify enforcement against contraband to level the playing field between GRE and other on-reserve tobacco manufacturers.”

GRE argues in the court document that the federal government, namely through the Attorney General’s office, has “failed to implement or administer what has been cited as the 1994 Anti-Smuggling Initiative and, as a result of not enforcing laws against the production of contraband cigarettes by other First Nation profiteers, it has caused Montour and company to “incur substantial losses.”

(I day its hard to argue against the GRE position- if one company has to pay then ALL should be made to pay. And since ALL cigarettes that are sold by natives in Ontari-owe are NOT a part of native tradition since it is white people who invented the product then it is fair that all natives MUST be made to pay the sin taxes on the product they are selling.)

A recent study by the National Coalition Against Contraband Tobacco shows a full third of cigarettes in Ontario are purchased illegally, with Northern Ontario breaching 60%.

It’s all price point. A carton of 200 professionally-packaged contraband cigarettes, which can be pumped out at a rate of 10,000 cigarettes a minute, can be purchased on a reserve — no questions asked — for as little as $30 while an all-taxes-in carton of legal cigarettes costs upwards of $115 at a typical convenience store.

(Native hypocrites want to have it both ways- they want to make a nice profit-cheating the govt of taxes while selling a highly addictive health hazard while avoiding any need to pay taxes that would cover some of the health care costs their product generates.)

This is not to say, however, that Jerry Montour, or his co-plaintiffs Kenny Hill, Curtis Styres and Gregory Scott Smith, are new to the court system. Far from it.

GRE and its distributors have faced litigation for non-payment of taxes by dozens of attorney generals in the United States, which is the primary destination of the GRE cigarette brands that their licence permits them to produce.

GRE’s consistent argument is that their status as a First Nation company should make them exempt from paying state taxes. The consistent result, however, has been GRE losing its court battles, and having to pay a hefty fine.

In Arkansas, for example, a recent fine was $20 million. That’s a lot of money to be smoked out.

(I say the tax exempt status granted to native a hundred years ago is part of a larger problem- that treaty writers and signers never saw coming. It was always expected that natives would continue living in relative isolation away from white people. Law maker of a hundred years back simply could not envision modern long haul trucking industry nor could the conceive of air freight! Thus the tax exempt status was NEVER expected to be used in the larger white society as native cigarette makers are doing. LIE-beral failure to deal with tax cheats has made this mess. But what else can we expect from wretched LIE-berals who are so craven in the face of anger and defiance?

markbonokoski at gmail
 

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Thank you. Courteously explaining what you refer to needs no spoon.

I see Mowich's concern was to find suggestions as to how juries could be made more representative of our diversity, without seeming to tamper with the selection process. I'm not familiar with the jury selection process. Maybe I'll check it out; maybe not.


Sadly- the jury that Our idiot Boy so despises- the one that brought back the "NOT GUILTY" verdict in the accidental shooting of drunken



native thief Colton Bushie WAS ENTIRELY REPRESENTATIVE of our diversity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Once you weed out all the potential jurors with criminal records.................................


because such people are NOT permitted on a jury.........................................




and then you weed out all the flaming RACISTS...............


you are left with some ORDINARY WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We would not let a NAZI sit in judgement on a JEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We would not let a Ku KLux Klansman sit in judgement on a black man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY do LIE-berals want us to think it is ACCEPTABLE to let RACIST white hating bigots of Idle No More sit in judgement of a white man?????????????????????
 

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Sadly- the jury that Our idiot Boy so despises- the one that brought back the "NOT GUILTY" verdict in the accidental shooting of drunken



native thief Colton Bushie WAS ENTIRELY REPRESENTATIVE of our diversity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Once you weed out all the potential jurors with criminal records.................................


because such people are NOT permitted on a jury.........................................




and then you weed out all the flaming RACISTS...............


you are left with some ORDINARY WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We would not let a NAZI sit in judgement on a JEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We would not let a Ku KLux Klansman sit in judgement on a black man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY do LIE-berals want us to think it is ACCEPTABLE to let RACIST white hating bigots of Idle No More sit in judgement of a white man?????????????????????


You know, there is medication that can help you before composing these font exploding rants.
 

Decapoda

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You know, there is medication that can help you before composing these font exploding rants.

He is the only CCF member that I have on ignore, unfortunately people keep quoting him and I am still forced to endure his endless deranged ramblings complete with all the hyperbolic abuse of caps, punctuation and large font.
 

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Did you go to a public school?
Ask him if he flies in planes, drives on roads, drinks fresh, clean water, flushes his crap away to "somewhere else", isn't occupied by foreign invaders, pestered by roving gangs all day long, if the light comes on when he flicks a switch.
 

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There is a lot that's suspect with this whole mess. I get that you are not impressed with Philpot ad JWR's disloyalty, but it's quite possible your disgust is misdirected. The more I look at the obvious, overt, and aggressive effort underway to willingly divert ethics and justice to protect Trudeau's narrative (which even now seems to change almost daily), the more I think that it's possible this may actually be certain people within the Liberal party trying to scandalize their incompetent, inept, virtue signalling leader in an effort to force his resignation before the next election.

There seems to be one of two possibilities...either Trudeau is leaking extremely confidential information about Supreme Court applicants to try and discredit JWR, or members of Trudeau's inner circle are leaking this information to try and discredit Trudeau. Either option is bad for Trudeau, and neither is the result of Philpott or JWR's "disloyalty".



Leak detailing Supreme Court appointment rift only shows how little Trudeau’s camp respects the rule of law

“It is outrageous that there is a leak with respect to the Supreme Court judicial appointment process,” Toronto Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith told the House of Commons ethics committee on Tuesday. “People from all parties ought to condemn that kind of thing.”
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“Agree,” replied Senator Percy Downe, who served as Mr. Chrétien’s chief of staff. “Appalling behaviour.”

How much longer will Justin Trudeau be able to keep his caucus and party together, after committing so many missteps? How much more political damage is he willing to sustain to prevent Ms. Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, who also resigned from cabinet in protest, from talking about the cabinet shuffle that eventually led to their resignations?

How much more damage to the integrity of this country’s legal system is this Prime Minister willing to inflict, in his efforts to discredit these enemies he used to call friends?


You are right, Dec. I fell prey to conviction bias. See my post in the Admiral Norman topic. When the full gravity of the this latest leak hit me, I did some thinking and realized that I was missing my target.
 

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I guess her commitment to stand up and speak is entirely dependent on her willingness is to throw away her career, integrity, and everything she's work for, as well as her commitment to personal ethics. Would you be willing to break ethical precedence and sacrifice everything you value to clean up Trudeau's filthy, immoral mess?


No. No I would not, Dec.
 

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You are right, Dec. I fell prey to conviction bias. See my post in the Admiral Norman topic. When the full gravity of the this latest leak hit me, I did some thinking and realized that I was missing my target.
It appears Trudeau made a mistake in thinking women would be easier to lead than men. The problem with that is he chose women for his cabinet that are far far smarter than he is.
 

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It appears Trudeau made a mistake in thinking women would be easier to lead than men. The problem with that is he chose women for his cabinet that are far far smarter than he is.
To be honest he might have Ms Freeland beat .
 

spilledthebeer

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You know, there is medication that can help you before composing these font exploding rants.


You know.............................


there is a desire for truth and justice at work in Canada.........................................


that PROVES your anti white, anti Yankee and PRO SOCIALIST Propaganda.................................


is exactly like the poor quality, fresh, ripe, steaming, straight from the back of the BULL, organic fertilizer that it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you want to "win" an argument like this........................


you will have to forcibly "medicate" most of Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND WHAT MEDICATION ARE YOU ON TO THINK lie-BEEALS HAVE ANSWERS TO ANYTHING???????????