Humboldt Broncos bus crash
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And you're WRONG because you have no respect for other's opinions. You seem to think that locking people up forever solves problems, but it doesn't - the victims are still dead and will remain dead, at huge expense to the taxpayer and huge waste of a resource.
Maybe for a week! After that they just think it's something that will never happen to them! When they were hanging murderers it didn't reduce the number of murderers! (Don't get the idea that SOME murderers shouldn't be hanged)
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It should be kept in mind too, that "violations" are much different from "crimes".
Government report into Humboldt crash lists 70 violations
MELFORT, Sask. -- A Saskatchewan government report says the driver of a semi-truck should not have been on the road the day he flew through a stop sign and caused a crash involving the Humboldt Broncos hockey team bus.
The report filed during the sentencing hearing for Jaskirat Singh Sidhu notes 70 violations of federal and provincial trucking regulations and inspection rules.
It includes the 11 days prior to the April 6, 2018, crash at a rural intersection that killed 16 people and injured 13 others.
"If Jaskirat Singh Sidhu had been stopped and inspected on April 6, 2018, prior to the incident he would have been placed under a 72-hour out-of-service declaration ... preventing him from operating a commercial vehicle," says the report.
The document is signed by two senior Saskatchewan government officials and is included in the RCMP's forensic collision reconstruction report.
It expresses concerns about the distances Singh was driving as well as the amount of time he took off to rest.
The report notes that if Singh had accurately documented his time at work on April 1 it "would have resulted in the driver being in violation of the maximum on-duty time of 14 hours for the day."
More: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/government-report-into-humboldt-crash-lists-70-violations-1.4274115
And the stop sign at that intersection was 4ms in diameter - much larger than normal stop signs and clearly visible.
Humboldt Broncos case: Crown recommends 10-year prison sentence for semi driver
https://globalnews.ca/news/4910631/...cos-bus-crash-sidhu/?utm_source=notification/
https://globalnews.ca/news/4910631/...cos-bus-crash-sidhu/?utm_source=notification/
The guilty driver should accept this sentence. 10 years...he'll probably be out in 6 under our lenient Canadian laws.
I agree, pete. Listening to CTV news just now, I learned that Mr Sidhu has met personally with some of the families and some of the victims.
Maybe, you guys can get together, draw and quarter him and bury the four parts at the corners of the country.
I suppose any sentence that is handed down will pale in comparison to the guilt he will have to endure for the rest of his life. Another dimension is the added responsibility expected of those who operate heavy equipment, which has to be taken into account.
That is correct, though of course courts do assign a monetary value to human lives. Not because they want to, but because that's really the only tool they have.
Here's a particularly chilling example of how the legal reasoning works. Once a young man fell off a high bridge, and in an attempt to save himself, grabbed a live power line on his way down. The line was not properly insulated, and the young man died of electrocution. His family sued the power company for negligence and wrongful death. The judge, noting that the young man was in the process of falling to his certain death, instructed the jury to calculate the value of his life for the few seconds between the time he was electrocuted and the time he would have died from the fall (or rather, the sudden stop at the end of it).
Why weren't there proper warning labels on the bridge?
"Don't cross this bridge before disconnecting the electrical supply."
"Do not cross this brige if there is a chance that it may fall down. Check condition of structure before use"
"Do not cross this brige if there are live crocodiles in the vicinity."
I ACCEPT I DO NOT ACCEPT
’MUCH, MUCH SLOWER': Coroner promises change after Humboldt mix-up
Canadian Press
Published:
February 25, 2019
Updated:
February 25, 2019 5:19 PM EST
A memorial for the 2018 crash where 16 people died and 13 injured when a truck collided with the Humboldt Broncos hockey team bus, is shown at the crash site on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 in Tisdale, Sask. Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.Ryan Remiorz / THE CANADIAN PRESS
REGINA — Saskatchewan’s chief coroner says a public mix-up in identifying two hockey players involved in the deadly Humboldt Broncos bus crash means, in the future, his office will be more careful in releasing names.
“Things will be much, much slower,” Clive Weighill said Monday, as he released his report into the April 2018 crash.
“We will not identify anybody and put anything out until we are 100 per cent positive.”
One of the six recommendations in Weighill’s report further calls on the Saskatchewan Health Authority to review how dead as well as injured patients are identified in such situations.
The mix-up involved 18-year-old players Xavier LaBelle, originally thought to be killed in the crash, and Parker Tobin, who was thought to be in hospital.
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LaBelle’s family had voiced uncertainty in identifying a body they were told was his and dental records had been ordered when he woke up in hospital saying he wasn’t Tobin.
Weighill said the coroner’s office was relying on information provided by hospitals about who the surviving players were and was working through a process of elimination with families to identify the dead.
But the identification process was not fully complete by the time a public memorial was held in Humboldt two days after crash.
“There was a lot of public pressure,” Weighill said. “There was media pressure, there was social media pressure.
“I can say probably from now on everybody that would come in is going to be a Jane Doe or a John Doe until we have a positive (identity) on each specific person.”
A spokesman from the Saskatchewan Health Authority said the agency accepts the coroner’s recommendation.
“We apologize to all those affected and we will endeavour to do our best to ensure this never happens again,” said spokesman Doug Dahl.
Sixteen people killed last April when a transport truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural crossroads north of Tisdale and into the path of the junior hockey team’s bus. Thirteen others on the bus were injured.
While truck driver Jaskirat Singh Sidhu has pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and is awaiting sentencing, the coroner’s report officially lists the deaths as accidental.
Weighill also recommended his office develop a mass casualty plan. He said one would be in place by March.
Remaining recommendations were aimed at other government agencies.
The report said the Saskatchewan Ministry of Highways should look at its policy on signs at the intersection where the crash occurred and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck driver training.
“A tragedy this size, it can’t just be one thing that went wrong,” said Scott Thomas, whose son Evan was killed.
Thomas said the coroner’s findings are justification for some of the changes that he and other families have been calling for.
He appreciated the recommendations directed to Transport Canada for mandatory seatbelts on highway buses and improving national safety codes for truck driver training and electronic logging.
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In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.
But Thomas said there needs to be a national standard.
“To me, this has to be a nationally regulated profession and these guys should be treated as professionals just like airplane pilots are,” he said.
Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies have said that, while many new vehicles already have seatbelts, there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them.
“A lot of the injuries were because people were ejected from the bus,” said Weighill. “We can’t say for sure if that would have been a big substantial difference or not to the injuries, but we feel that it would certainly lead to a safer environment.”
Thomas said he would like to see the coroner’s report made binding.
A coroner’s report into a crash at the same intersection that killed six people in 1997 recommended installing an additional warning device such as rumble strips. The government at the time declined.
“If the government would have acted after the ’97 coroner’s report, rumble strips would have been there,” said Thomas. “I’ve got to think that would have significantly changed the outcome of that day.”
http://torontosun.com/news/national/much-much-slower-coroner-promises-change-after-humboldt-mix-up
Canadian Press
Published:
February 25, 2019
Updated:
February 25, 2019 5:19 PM EST
A memorial for the 2018 crash where 16 people died and 13 injured when a truck collided with the Humboldt Broncos hockey team bus, is shown at the crash site on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 in Tisdale, Sask. Saskatchewan's coroner's service has released its report into the Humboldt Broncos bus crash and it calls for tougher enforcement of trucking rules and mandatory seatbelts on highway buses.Ryan Remiorz / THE CANADIAN PRESS
REGINA — Saskatchewan’s chief coroner says a public mix-up in identifying two hockey players involved in the deadly Humboldt Broncos bus crash means, in the future, his office will be more careful in releasing names.
“Things will be much, much slower,” Clive Weighill said Monday, as he released his report into the April 2018 crash.
“We will not identify anybody and put anything out until we are 100 per cent positive.”
One of the six recommendations in Weighill’s report further calls on the Saskatchewan Health Authority to review how dead as well as injured patients are identified in such situations.
The mix-up involved 18-year-old players Xavier LaBelle, originally thought to be killed in the crash, and Parker Tobin, who was thought to be in hospital.
Story continues below
This advertisement has not loaded yet,
but your article continues below.
LaBelle’s family had voiced uncertainty in identifying a body they were told was his and dental records had been ordered when he woke up in hospital saying he wasn’t Tobin.
Weighill said the coroner’s office was relying on information provided by hospitals about who the surviving players were and was working through a process of elimination with families to identify the dead.
But the identification process was not fully complete by the time a public memorial was held in Humboldt two days after crash.
“There was a lot of public pressure,” Weighill said. “There was media pressure, there was social media pressure.
“I can say probably from now on everybody that would come in is going to be a Jane Doe or a John Doe until we have a positive (identity) on each specific person.”
A spokesman from the Saskatchewan Health Authority said the agency accepts the coroner’s recommendation.
“We apologize to all those affected and we will endeavour to do our best to ensure this never happens again,” said spokesman Doug Dahl.
Sixteen people killed last April when a transport truck barrelled through a stop sign at a rural crossroads north of Tisdale and into the path of the junior hockey team’s bus. Thirteen others on the bus were injured.
While truck driver Jaskirat Singh Sidhu has pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and is awaiting sentencing, the coroner’s report officially lists the deaths as accidental.
Weighill also recommended his office develop a mass casualty plan. He said one would be in place by March.
Remaining recommendations were aimed at other government agencies.
The report said the Saskatchewan Ministry of Highways should look at its policy on signs at the intersection where the crash occurred and Saskatchewan Government Insurance should implement mandatory truck driver training.
“A tragedy this size, it can’t just be one thing that went wrong,” said Scott Thomas, whose son Evan was killed.
Thomas said the coroner’s findings are justification for some of the changes that he and other families have been calling for.
He appreciated the recommendations directed to Transport Canada for mandatory seatbelts on highway buses and improving national safety codes for truck driver training and electronic logging.
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In December, the Saskatchewan government announced it will make training mandatory for semi-truck drivers starting in March. Drivers seeking a Class 1 commercial licence will have to undergo at least 121 1/2 hours of training.
But Thomas said there needs to be a national standard.
“To me, this has to be a nationally regulated profession and these guys should be treated as professionals just like airplane pilots are,” he said.
Transport Canada announced in June that the department will require all newly built highway buses to have seatbelts by September 2020. Some charter bus companies have said that, while many new vehicles already have seatbelts, there is no way to ensure passengers are wearing them.
“A lot of the injuries were because people were ejected from the bus,” said Weighill. “We can’t say for sure if that would have been a big substantial difference or not to the injuries, but we feel that it would certainly lead to a safer environment.”
Thomas said he would like to see the coroner’s report made binding.
A coroner’s report into a crash at the same intersection that killed six people in 1997 recommended installing an additional warning device such as rumble strips. The government at the time declined.
“If the government would have acted after the ’97 coroner’s report, rumble strips would have been there,” said Thomas. “I’ve got to think that would have significantly changed the outcome of that day.”
http://torontosun.com/news/national/much-much-slower-coroner-promises-change-after-humboldt-mix-up