Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Colpy]

Interesting.

A few facts to counter the attacks on the NRA, and bought politicians....

the NRA is a civil rights group with 5 million members that defends the Bill of Rights. The executive is elected by the membership. The organization serves the membership, as it should, and is not a tool of gun companies......who provide less than 5% of their budget. As for their donations to politicians, while not insignificant, they hardly are enough to put those people in their pockets. Congress resists gun control because gun people vote the subject, and they are punished in the elections, not by the NRA withdrawing money.
Proof?
In the 2016 election, the largest recipient of NRA money was Roy Blunt, in a Senate race in Missouri. He got $11,900.
These are the members of Congress with the most NRA donations - Business Insider
Mr. Blunt spent $15,909,243 on that race.
https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2016&id=MOS1
I don't think he was "in the pocket" of the NRA.

 

[Hoid]

Yes its the attacks on the NRA that are the worst part of all these kids getting shot.

 

[Walter]

Yes its the attacks on the NRA that are the worst part of all these kids getting shot.

Nope. The worst part is all the kids being shot in gun-free zone. Don't the murderers know that schools are gun-free zones set up by the Dems. Why are murderers bringing guns into gun-free zones?

 

[Hoid]

Nope. The worst part is all the kids being shot in gun-free zone. Don't the murderers know that schools are gun-free zones set up by the Dems. Why are murderers bringing guns into gun-free zones?

There was an armed guard at the school.

Did not help.

 

[Decapoda]

Nope. The worst part is all the kids being shot in gun-free zone. Don't the murderers know that schools are gun-free zones set up by the Dems. Why are murderers bringing guns into gun-free zones?

There was an armed guard at the school.

Did not help.

So what...what's your point?

 

[Hoid]

How can a school be a gun free area and have an armed police officer on duty at the same time?

 

[Decapoda]

How can a school be a gun free area and have an armed police officer on duty at the same time?

You said yourself it did not help. Doesn't matter if he has a gun or not if he didn't use it.

Guess same thing could be said for law abiding citizens, eh? A gun is only effective if the trigger is pulled...that takes something much more important and relevant than the type of gun or the number of rounds in the magazine...it takes intent.

 

[Hoid]

Yes that's what I thought.

The gun-free zone is fake news.

 

[Decapoda]

Yes that's what I thought.

The gun-free zone is fake news.

As is the argument that the cause of school shootings is access to guns.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Interesting.

A few facts to counter the attacks on the NRA, and bought politicians....

the NRA is a civil rights group with 5 million members that defends the Bill of Rights. The executive is elected by the membership. The organization serves the membership, as it should, and is not a tool of gun companies......who provide less than 5% of their budget. As for their donations to politicians, while not insignificant, they hardly are enough to put those people in their pockets. Congress resists gun control because gun people vote the subject, and they are punished in the elections, not by the NRA withdrawing money.
Proof?
In the 2016 election, the largest recipient of NRA money was Roy Blunt, in a Senate race in Missouri. He got $11,900.
These are the members of Congress with the most NRA donations - Business Insider
Mr. Blunt spent $15,909,243 on that race.
https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2016&id=MOS1
I don't think he was "in the pocket" of the NRA.

Yes, that's from the NRA itself. But what about the NRA Political Action Committee? And the NRA's 501(c)(4) "social welfare" organization. Tells a different story, don't it:

Roy Blunt (R-MO)

“Saddened by the tragic loss of life in #LasVegas. My thoughts are with all of the families affected by this horrific attack.”

Contributions since 1989: $4,551,146

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/opinion/thoughts-prayers-nra-funding-senators.html

 

[JamesBondo]

There was an armed guard at the school.

Did not help.

what about 911? we can all agree that it helped, correct?

You said yourself it did not help. Doesn't matter if he has a gun or not if he didn't use it.

Guess same thing could be said for law abiding citizens, eh? A gun is only effective if the trigger is pulled...that takes something much more important and relevant than the type of gun or the number of rounds in the magazine...it takes intent.

in the context of your comment, I agree and understand you. However, I feel compelled to point out that a gun proves helpful hundreds of thousands of times per year - if not millions - mostly by 'never pulling the trigger'

Yes that's what I thought.

The gun-free zone is fake news.

to you or the shooter?

Yes, that's from the NRA itself. But what about the NRA Political Action Committee? And the NRA's 501(c)(4) "social welfare" organization. Tells a different story, don't it:

Roy Blunt (R-MO)

“Saddened by the tragic loss of life in #LasVegas. My thoughts are with all of the families affected by this horrific attack.”

Contributions since 1989: $4,551,146

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/opinion/thoughts-prayers-nra-funding-senators.html

that is 5 million dollars in 29 years when a single race costs 15million. Do you have anything that suggests that is a problem?

 

[JLM]

How can a school be a gun free area and have an armed police officer on duty at the same time?

Not overly bright are you? What it means is gun free as far as the general public goes, not for officials that need the guns to fulfill their duties...............NATURALLY!

 

[Murphy]

Flossy is trying to be meaningful. His school buddies put him up to this. And despite that, he continues to fail.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

what about 911? we can all agree that it helped, correct?



in the context of your comment, I agree and understand you. However, I feel compelled to point out that a gun proves helpful hundreds of thousands of times per year - if not millions - mostly by 'never pulling the trigger'



to you or the shooter?



that is 5 million dollars in 29 years when a single race costs 15million. Do you have anything that suggests that is a problem?

How about the fact that an organization as poltically savvy as the NRA don't lay down 4 1/2 mil without knowing exactly what they're buying?

I know you're not American, and you have much saner campaign-finance laws, but trust me, that kind of money buys a lot.

Nice diversion, though.

 

[taxslave]

You are exceeding the speed of stupidity, as usual.

Facts just are not your strong suit are they? Better stay in school and try to pass gr.12 so you can at least flip burgers at rotten ronnies.

 

[Walter]

Better stay in school and try to pass gr.12 so you can at least flip burgers at rotten ronnies.

Too late.
Meet Flippy, a burger-grilling robot from Miso Robotics and CaliBurger
https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/07/m...ling-robot-from-miso-robotics-and-caliburger/

 

[taxslave]

Too late.
Meet Flippy, a burger-grilling robot from Miso Robotics and CaliBurger
https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/07/m...ling-robot-from-miso-robotics-and-caliburger/

Well there is still the possibility of him becoming a sanitation engineer.

 

[Decapoda]

in the context of your comment, I agree and understand you. However, I feel compelled to point out that a gun proves helpful hundreds of thousands of times per year - if not millions - mostly by 'never pulling the trigger'

How many school shootings are successfully carried out by a student "never pulling the trigger"?

How many shooters are stopped in their tracks by "never puling the trigger"?

If a police officer pulls a gun, is it the gun that brings a situation under control, or the realization that the person holding the gun is trained to use it and has absolute intent to ensure compliance?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

How many school shootings are successfully carried out by a student "never pulling the trigger"?

How many shooters are stopped in their tracks by "never puling the trigger"?

If a police officer pulls a gun, is it the gun that brings a situation under control, or the realization that the person holding the gun is trained to use it and has absolute intent to ensure compliance?

Both, according to some cops I know.

 

[Hoid]

how did the police stop the last shooting?

they didn't.

the kid laid down his gun and left. He later gave himself up without a struggle. That is the new model.