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Decapoda

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Tecumsehsbones said:
OK, now you're being borderline dishonest. Nobody but the extreme left fringe is talking about banning guns.
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Are you sure about that??

69% of Canadians support outright ban on guns in urban areas: poll

But widespread support for the concept suggests there’s room to simply stop tinkering with existing gun laws and put in place something more ambitious, he said.

“I’m not saying the operationalization wouldn’t be complex but this isn’t a moon shot and it’s been done in other jurisdictions,” Graves said.

“I think Canadians would settle for something close – it wouldn’t have to be a strict ban, but anything to move the needle here.”

There are many in this country who simply have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to gun legislation, yet hold a great deal of power when it comes to changing it. Gun owners in Canada have every right to distrust motives and show outright contempt at any suggestion that proposed changes in legislation are going to respect rational debate or even a full understanding of facts. Canada is not the US, but there is a lot of similar sentiment. I have little doubt that there are many in the US that are completely supportive of an outright ban.
 
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Posts link that says 69% of people want a gun ban - thinks it supports the pro gun movement somehow.
 
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It does not say that, Flossy. Learn to read and comprehend. Or are you just being contrary again?

The 69% want a ban in urban areas. Listen sweetie, there is a difference between a total ban and a ban in urban areas.

I'm not sure if you need to be spanked or need to be examined for a learning disability. :lol:
 
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Hoid said:
Posts link that says 69% of people want a gun ban - thinks it supports the pro gun movement somehow.
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On your best day you can't even decipher what you're thinking, don't even try to imply you have any idea what I'm thinking.
 
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Decapoda said:
On your best day you can't even decipher what you're thinking, don't even try to imply you have any idea what I'm thinking.
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My take on him, based on years of teaching, is that he is attempting to stir the pot by being a contrarian. It's an almost typically male behaviour when trying to appear "cool". Flossy's brain has not matured enough to understand that his behaviour is silly. He will continue however.

Sometimes he understands what is said, but most of the time, not. Most children grow out of it.
 
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Don't care what you're thinking - you have managed to point out that a large majority of Canadians would ban guns if they could.

Good to know.
 
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Great idea. Because as we've seen, gun bans in cities have worked so well. :lol: The only ones who would obey the ban are the law-abiding gun owners and if they're law-abiding gun owners, then they aren't the problem and relieving them of their firearms won't change a thing. All it does it make idiots like you feel like you accomplished something without actually having to do anything (or really accomplishing anything for that matter).
It would be just another "feel good" law.

Hmmm let's see what other useless "feel good" laws/bans are in place. Oh, the law against impaired driving and the penalties for doing it. Oh yeah, those laws have been real effective.

Generally speaking, bans have a tendency to be more emotion driven than logic driven although there are always exceptions to the rule. A prime example, (other than Canada's makes no sense whatsoever firearms categorization) was the ban on lawn dart in the '80s. Remember those? Yep, well apparently 3 whole people were killed by errant lawn darts one year and so the game was banned for sale in the US and Canada. I'll take a moment and let the ridiculousness of that ban sink in.

Fast forward to today. In North America hundreds of thousands of people are hurt and killed by people using their phones when they they're supposed to be driving. This was becoming an issue even before you could text and watch movies or play games on them. What's being done about it? Govts are enacting "feel good" laws as if they're doing something about the problem. Shit like that has been covered under reckless/dangerous driving laws for friggin' decades now and they've done jack squat in stopping the problem. Meanwhile the auto makers have merely compounded the problem by making it even easier to use these devices in a moving vehicle.
But yeah, let's ban guns in cities because the death toll from law-abiding gun owners is just so horrendously high. That's what the major problem is in Canada. :roll:
 
Decapoda

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Hoid said:
Don't care what you're thinking - you have managed to point out that a large majority of Canadians would ban guns if they could.

Good to know.
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That's the point, genius. The comment was made that nobody but the extreme left fringe is talking about banning guns. I was refuting that point. It's unfortunate you don't at least have a hint of comprehension, maybe things wouldn't have to be repeated to you.

Making or influencing legislative decisions based on emotional misrepresentation of facts at best...or outright political deception at worst...is dishonest, egregious, and does nothing to address the problem.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Sorry to cross you up. In this exchange Colpy and I were talking about the U.s.

I'm happy to discuss Canadian gun policy with you, but what I said above isn't relevant.
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Yeah, got that after I posted. I edited my original post and think that there's still some relevance. There is sentiment and support for banning guns within a certain political leaning that I suspect is present on both sides of the border. The difference is this sentiment doesn't stand a chance of gaining traction in the US, but it is much more relevant in Canada.

Regardless, I suspect there are many in the US , including many outside of the "extreme left fringe" that are talking about banning guns.

Should guns be banned in America? 39% Say Yes, 61% Say No.
 
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Jinentonix said:
The only ones who would obey the ban are the law-abiding gun owners ...
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Yes, the old "criminals will ignore the law so why have a law" argument. Do you feel the same way about child molestation laws or laws involving robbery and/or theft? If not, why not?
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Sorry to cross you up. In this exchange Colpy and I were talking about the U.s.

I'm happy to discuss Canadian gun policy with you, but what I said above isn't relevant.
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You can say that again.

Cannuck said:
Yes, the old "criminals will ignore the law so why have a law" argument. Do you feel the same way about child molestation laws or laws involving robbery and/or theft? If not, why not?
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I have never heard that version, the version I heard is 'criminals are already ignoring the law, additional laws will just infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens'
 
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Decapoda said:
That's the point, genius. The comment was made that nobody but the extreme left fringe is talking about banning guns. I was refuting that point. It's unfortunate you don't at least have a hint of comprehension, maybe things wouldn't have to be repeated to you.

Making or influencing legislative decisions based on emotional misrepresentation of facts at best...or outright political deception at worst...is dishonest, egregious, and does nothing to address the problem.
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Yes you refuted yourself by proving that Canadians want to ban guns.

Congratulations.
 
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Hoid said:
The Ar15 could be banned with the stroke of the pen - or even without it.

As Trump said - take the guns first, then worry about due process.
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Which is exactly why no sane person is willing tom register their rifles. If they are not registered the government will have no idea where they are or even how many so it will be hard for them to steal another bunch of rifles like Canada did with automatics.
What's next? Someone of your low moral fibre in a position of authority decides that anything over a single shot is inappropriate and the government steals all our hunting rifles?

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Take the guns ? Any compensation or just a wholesale gun grab ? Do we take Canadian’s guns as well , even those on a reservation ?
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Injuns would be exempt because it is their right to hunt with high powered scoped and well lit rifles like they have for the last 6000 years.

Also there is never any gun crime on the rez. Ask hoid.
 
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taxslave said:
Which is exactly why no sane person is willing tom register their rifles. If they are not registered the government will have no idea where they are or even how many so it will be hard for them to steal another bunch of rifles like Canada did with automatics.
What's next? Someone of your low moral fibre in a position of authority decides that anything over a single shot is inappropriate and the government steals all our hunting rifles?



Injuns would be exempt because it is their right to hunt with high powered scoped and well lit rifles like they have for the last 6000 years.

Also there is never any gun crime on the rez. Ask hoid.
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You are exceeding the speed of stupidity, as usual.
 
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