Canadians prefer Trump over trudeau

spilledthebeer

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What facts.....once again not one reference or source in that ridiculously long post as to where you obtained your info.

I am beginning to think you make it up as you go along!!

Oh poor little bluebyrd her happy little nest of Hogs is being blown away in a storm of public indignation! Put yoyur head back under your wing and go back to sleep sad little byrd!

If you read anything other than Hog union hand outs you would know the truth- but you dont want truth- people like you just want GRAVY!
 

bluebyrd35

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Oh poor little bluebyrd her happy little nest of Hogs is being blown away in a storm of public indignation! Put yoyur head back under your wing and go back to sleep sad little byrd!

If you read anything other than Hog union hand outs you would know the truth- but you dont want truth- people like you just want GRAVY!
What an idiotic post. What the heck is a nest of hogs? (by the way in the animal world, pigs are among the smartest, in fact in many cases ,smarter than some humans)
What indignation? and I insist on truth, with facts to back it up. As for "GRAVY" what ever I have, I worked hard and long for it. One more thing, I am not sad nor a bird. Bluebird is the bird of happiness.....smarten up for goodness sake and make some sense.
 

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First of all it is true that government pensions are minimal, and not meant to provide luxury. Many things in life are unpredictable. In the end many people are unable for many different reasons able to provide or even earn enough through their own efforts to provide a decent pension in their retirement years,

Do we simply put them all on welfare?? That solution is a form of punishment for lack of education, illness and before Workmen's compensation, life alterations injuries. Basic pensions and other pensions provides a life sustaining basis to all in one form or another.

Now Canada has high personal taxes and I for one do not object to paying them, as LONG as they mostly go to providing for all Canadians. I am among the most fortunate, mostly because I was able to work hard, lucky enough to have decent and forwarding looking parents and teachers that understood the value of learning but mostly for having good health.

In my personal opinion it is not about cost but about providing for the least fortunate among us. Our high taxes are better spent there.

It can only be improved by sharing our lifestyle with those who will work and contribute to Canada and not viewing everyone who want to share the benefits and the high taxes with suspicion of freeloading. The nice part is one with a bit of ambition can really be grateful for Canada's lifestyle.

Now this IS a long post and I do not apologize!
At what point is enough , enough ? Our federal government is running 10 billion dollar deficits , our provincial governments are mostly running deficit budgets . Our municipal governments are forbidden by law from running deficits so they simply raise taxes every year . In Vancouver the school board was fired for running deficits . When is enough , enough ?
 

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I just had to post something because you had post 666. Not that you're superstitious or anything...
 

Cannuck

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Yup! considering the projection was to be $ 28,9 billion. Surely 9 billion less is somewhat of an improvement.

Considering the US is 10 times the population of Canada, JLM wouldn't look like a complete moron if the US deficit was somewhere around 200 billion. Of course, with the Trumpster, some suspect it might hit a trillion.

One simply has zero credibility if they support Trump but claim to be conservative. The two are incompatible. It's really that simple
 

JLM

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I watched the news too! Did you take note of the word "Projected"? :) :)

Considering the US is 10 times the population of Canada, JLM wouldn't look like a complete moron if the US deficit was somewhere around 200 billion. Of course, with the Trumpster, some suspect it might hit a trillion.

One simply has zero credibility if they support Trump but claim to be conservative. The two are incompatible. It's really that simple


You're entitled to your opinion (which I have absolutely no problem with) :) :)
 

spilledthebeer

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At what point is enough , enough ? Our federal government is running 10 billion dollar deficits , our provincial governments are mostly running deficit budgets . Our municipal governments are forbidden by law from running deficits so they simply raise taxes every year . In Vancouver the school board was fired for running deficits . When is enough , enough ?

When is enough you ask? When we are all bankrupt!

Here are some comments on that insulting LIE-beral bait and switch propaganda they are so fond of. The details come courtesy of a Metroland newspaper- and I believe Metroland also owns the LIE-beral loving loonie leftist Toronto (Red) Star newspaper.

Local news media announced, with breathless excitement that “Durham Region could receive up to $14.3 million dollars for repairs and retrofits to social housing units in the region”. And it sounds great till you dig into the details- a reporting technique much loved by LIE-beral friendly media in which good news is up front and bad news is buried deep!

Firstly- that $14.3 million will be paid out over FIVE YEARS! And since it looks unlikely that LIE-berals will be able to cling to power after next June in Ontari-owe- they will only hand out a very tiny portion of that $14.3 before being swept away in a tide of voter fury! With no guarantee of the full amount being paid as fiscal pressures keep hitting Ontari-owe, forcing regular revisions of govt priorities.

In addition, the money will be coming from the sale of carbon crap and trade credits- the ones LIE-berals are under HUGE pressure from business to SCRAP! LIE-berals are CAUGHT- carbon crap gives them slush funds to play with- and it KILLS jobs and investment as Ontari-owe is about the most costly place in North America to do business thanks to LIE-beral tax madness!

If Ontari-owe LIE-berals want to keep their MASSIVE debt and mad spending habit under semi control- they MUST start paying down some debt- but their finances for 2018 are ALREADY A MESS! Their 2017 not so balanced budget- the one described by some observers as a “mess cooked up in Hells kitchen” will be done over in 2018; starting with a multi billion dollar hole- as they can only sell Ontari-owe Hydro ONCE- no new cash for 2018 from that. In addition they have signed contracts giving raises totaling 7.5 percent to their civil service Hog allies over the next 4 years- with no idea where to get that money either- except by raising fees and taxes yet again- or by MORE borrowing- with existing debt killing the province already and credit agencies getting ready to punish LIE-berals for their free spending madness!

LIE-berals are also caught in MASSIVE civil service Hog pension messes- with OSSTF- the Ontari-owe high school teachers having been promised fifty five billion dollars in pension top ups- with only a modest portion of that cash available thanks to electricity price gouging that has enraged the public to such fury that LIE-berals appear doomed in next election. And there are 18 other Hog unions right behind OSSTF- each with tens of billions MORE pension promises that LIE-berals cannot honour and cannot ignore as all Hog pensions are falling rapidly into bankruptcy- LIE-berals cannot shovel cash into Hog pension plans fast enough to satisfy that GREED!

To add to LIE-beral difficulties- Our idiot Boy Justin is publicly sabotaging NAFTA simply because he hates Yankees generally and seems- in spite of his FAKE SMILES- to actively loath Trump specifically! Our idiot Boy arrived in Mexico City the other day for the third round of NAFTA talks and told us “he would be pushing women’s issues and indigenous native rights” while Trump announced “he would be focusing on trade and national security”! Our idiot Boy is DELIBERATELY REFUSING to address Yankee worries about Muslim terror cells setting up in Canada and using our territory as a base for striking at Yankees!

Our idiot Boy is also IGNORING- just as his vile father did- the espionage activities of Chinese communist agents collecting all manner of information- everything from software designs to the latest metallurgical test on jet and rocket engines. Twenty years back, Chinese jet engines were good for 500 hours of flight time before a major rebuild- while Yankee jet engines were good for 5000 hours. That was then and this is now- Chinese jet engines are now as reliable as Yankee engines courtesy of industrial espionage! And of course Iran has been a BIG customer if Chinese military hardware- LOTS of missiles and rockets- with much improved power and accuracy courtesy of industrial espionage and relentless Chinese research!

If NAFTA collapses as Our idiot Boy apparently hopes- then Ontari-owe will take a financial hit that neither Wynne-bag nor Canada can afford thanks to all the pre- existing LIE-beral debt!

So social housing types in Durham can expect a little dribble of cash in the next few months and then.....nothing more while whoever forms the next govt gets sorted out and starts cleaning up the vast and costly LIE-beral mess! And many voters are already disgusted at the antics of housing authorities- Toronto mayor jackass John Tory was blind sided by TCHC Hogs when they handed themselves major bonuses even as their housing units decayed further- with rents for units often going uncollected thanks to scumbag `professional tenants` that staffers are unable or unwilling to evict for any reason and with debts piling ever higher.

According to John Connolly, Durham social services did a study- in 2015- that showed Region social housing needed $230 million dollars in assorted repairs- and we can guess that price is higher now after 2 years of virtual inaction! Durham is doing as Toronto Housing poobahs are doing- just papering over the cracks and praying a Fairy God Mother will save them from disaster- eventually! Problem is that even if Durham gets that full $14.3 million dollars- it is nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to the $230 million in total repairs required!

This is the face of bankruptcy- courtesy of LIE-berals and their frantic greed that mandates clinging to power by purchasing as many votes as are required- and DAMN the cost to tax payers! LIE-beral leaders do not persuade- they merely bribe- and its mostly civil service Hogs they target!

LIE-beral efforts to meddle in the housing market have resulted in Toronto recently demolishing 160 TCHC town house units in the Jane/Finch area that turned out to be too far gone to rebuild- with the numbers of other social housing units in similar virtually unliveable condition increasing rapidly by the day! In addition - with the LIE-beral decision to expand rent controls- over a 1000 condo units under construction will now NOT become part of the rental housing market and will instead be sold to private owners- LIE-beral efforts on behalf of renters are making things WORSE!

LIE-berals speak so sincerely of their desire to help us but we would not need help if they got out of the way and out of our pockets and stopped manipulating our work and our lives. LIE-berals could not run a chip truck at a profit- not even if you gave them the potatoes for FREE!
 

spilledthebeer

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Did you know there are colours other than black and white-but if you mix those two colours together all you get is shades of grey? You do NOT get NDP orange nor airhead GREEN! I have already debunked NDP poverty pimps in a previous post- now its time to mock Green party policy that is even dumber than hopeless NDP CRAP! And since both NDP and Greens have rather similar polices on environment and economics this post also serves notice that NDP remain as FOOLS!

How much political trouble can we get into if we implement electoral reform and proportional representation (call it PR) under LIE-beral supervision? The Green Party is MOST excited about PR as they expect to be BIG WINNERS under PR. Of course most Cdns will be BIG LOSERS if Greens get what they desire! Consider these statements taken from Green Party policy statements, with some comments of my own in brackets):

Sustainable Economy. Because tomorrow is serious business.

Canada is teetering on a recession for the second time since Stephen Harper became prime minister. His ill-advised political pledge to eliminate the deficit he created, just in time for this election, is now risking a deepening recession.

(Greens are clearly excited about deficit financing. They have learned NOTHING from NDP leader Bob Rae and the Rae Days that resulted when Boob tried to spend us rich- as Our idiot Boy Justin is now doing! Nor have they learned from the economic chaos that has enveloped the European PIGS-led by Greece!)

We are one of the wealthiest nations in the world in every sense of the word. Today, our economy produces 50 percent more wealth per capita than it did a generation ago.

(Too bad Greens did not calculate what our economy would be producing if we had to STOP borrowing and start PAYING BACK what we have borrowed! Greens IGNORE the debt disaster that is stalking us and getting CLOSER!)

Nevertheless, Canadians are feeling more squeezed economically than ever before. Despite a shift to two-income households, the current generation of young families faces increasing costs for housing, education, and childcare, and unprecedented household debt.

(This is what happens when you live beyond your means and are beholden to a cabal of powerful unions that are holding the rest of us to ransom for their gravy! And this is another reason for our economy to LOOK healthy-average out the $95 grand a teacher gets with the $40 grand an ordinary person gets and it LOOKS respectable-but the teacher is the only one happy or comfortable and averages let Greens and LIE-berals pretend the economy is better than it really is!)

Meanwhile, our political leaders repeat the mantra that government cupboards are bare. Deep cuts in the tax rate for large corporations have led to a hoarding of cash in big business bank accounts. The Former Governor of the Bank of Canada called it “dead money” – and there’s a lot of it. Over $600 billion, equivalent to 32 percent of our GDP, is held in corporate bank accounts – not being re-invested, not working at all. Dead money. Old-line parties have ignored places to fund needed programs and instead claim there is no new money for health care services, education, pensions, infrastructure, public safety, or scientific research.

(Greens spout the sort of economic madness last heard at Communist Party rallies in Moscow-before the collapse of Soviet Union. All political parties are under HUGE PRESSURE to produce MORE JOBS and they all employ the same bait-LOWER TAXES. You cannot play the World Monopoly game without money!)

(Greens refer to money held in corporate accounts as `dead`-this is NOT the case-that money is what allows our banking system to continue being regarded as SOLVENT and more stable than banks in other countries! We certainly can not count on ordinary Cdns to save that kind of money-not without a gun to their heads! And corporations exist for the sole purpose of making MORE money-give them a real opportunity and watch them jump for it USING that `dead` money! Further, Greens IGNORE the reality that much of that money is tied to company stocks held by Cdns-if you waste that money stupidly then Cdns suffer.)

There is a serious disconnect between the unprecedented wealth produced by the Canadian economy and the increasing economic insecurity of Canadians.

(That `disconnect` is solely the result of MASSIVE transfers of wealth from ordinary Cdns into the pockets of Working Family civil service union Hogs. Ontari-owe LIE-berals have made promises to their high school teachers totaling FIFTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS! If this money is not paid by LIE-berals by about 2018 then high school teacher pension plan will go BANKRUPT! We did not have the money when LIE-berals made the promises and we don’t have it now. LIE-berals cannot shovel OUR money fast enough into the 19 civil service union pension plans to keep them solvent-so great is union greed for gravy! Greens must accept that offering us LIE-beral style policies will ruin what`s left of our economy. Teacher Hog pensions are so lavish that a teacher can make as much or MORE money while retired than they earned while working!)

We need to immediately build those sectors that benefit from the lower Canadian dollar – manufacturing, tourism, value-added forest products and cultural industries.

(What a joke! Manufacturing in Canada is in a holding pattern-waiting to see if LIE-berals are stupid enough to go ahead with their Carbon crap and trade scam-the one Greens STRONGLY support! The Carbon crap is NOT a plan to save the environment; it is nothing more than a GIANT slush fund that LIE-berals plan to dip into so they can BUY Hog votes. If LIE-berals-or Greens do Not exempt Cdn manufacturing companies from the Carbon tax then they can wave BYE-BYE to ALL our manufacturing jobs as they flee to other countries where taxes are lower and carbon is ignored .)

(And what of tourism? Travel by air plane is the dirtiest way to travel-do Greens really want INCREASED air travel-with its VAST increase in air pollution and attendant rise in use of fossil fuel? And what of the recent proposal of Toronto council to put a tax on hotel rooms? How does increasing cost benefit tourism? But Silly Hall must buy Hog votes just like LIE-berals-so hike the new taxes!)

(Greens want to support `cultural industries`? That`s nice. Does anybody remember `Bubbles Galore`-the LAME soft porn film shot in Canada using the newly created LIE-beral inspired film credits? Or how about the shit art-literally-that was featured in The Globe newspaper a a decade back? LIE-beral inspired artists bought a dozen pairs of cotton slacks and then ate a nice range of foods-and then shit in their pants-some were over achievers and shit several times in the pants! The pants were then put on display at an art gallery that got 80percent of its operating budget from LIE-beral govt! The shitty pants-with their colourful variety of textures and range of application methods-some lightly done and others caked in place- were supposed to be some sort of parody of life and death and creativity. Do we want MORE bureaucrats producing shit art and soft porn? That rat Pierre Trudeau stated one good thing: “that the state had no business in the bedrooms of the nation!” I agree and add: the state should stay away from the art business too!)

We need to embrace the 21st century economic revolution of clean technology.

Canada is falling far behind the U.S. in productivity. More R & D and innovation will come from manufacturing and clean technology.

(Apparently Greens have not noticed that we are a branch plant economy. Sweden can sell us VOLVO cars because Volvo puts home based Swedish interests FIRST. Same sort of thing with Honda, Kia, Mercedes. Astin Martin. So called Cdn auto makers take their orders direct from Detroit generally and from Flint Michigan specifically. Cdn industry is OWNED by foreigners-and THEY dictate what we may make ands where we can sell it. The same sort of rules apply to value added forest products-we have sold ourselves to foreigners for quick economic fixes and now our hands are tied.)

Secure Canada’s economic leadership over the coming decade by creating a fund to invest in skills-training, education, energy efficiency, renewables, and emerging technologies.

(Apparently Greens have never tried to get hired as an apprentice in Canada. There are ALREADY all manner of colleges delighted to train us in all sorts of things-but there are NO JOBS. Going ever deeper into debt to train people for jobs that don’t exist is NOT a solution! Europeans have a much better apprenticeship training regimen than we do and yet their debts and unemployment rates are much higher than ours? Greens offer no answer regarding WHY? I say its DEBT that hobble s European economies-and ours as well!)

We will capitalize this fund by expanding revenue through returning corporate tax rates on large corporations to the 2009 level (19 percent), eliminating tax havens and tax credits used by the extremely wealthy, taxing pollution and waste, increasing the efficiency of our tax system, and working with provinces to increase resource extraction royalties.

(Oh great, LIE-berals are busy trying frantically to BRIBE companies to stay here and Greens want to ADD to the tax burden and ruin everything!)

The time has come to redesign our tax system for the 21st century economy. As a starting point, in line with fundamental principles of fairness, efficiency and equity, we will eliminate the exemptions, special cases and tax breaks for favoured interests. These boutique tax cuts have cluttered our tax code, needlessly increasing its complexity. We must ensure the tax system helps, not hinders, Canadians. These changes will ensure that we capture and secure economic benefits for all Canadians.

(Greens have not noticed that LIE-berals derive their votes from a cabal of powerful union Hogs-and both Hogs and corporations must be bribed with tax breaks or they wont play nice with govt! And for the 55 plus percent of Cdns who are too disgusted to vote-politicians calm that herd by offering up more assorted `boutique` tax benefits. Eliminating `boutique` tax cuts will ensure that Hogs and their dependants will maul Greens in any election-at every opportunity. Hogs are already FURIOUS at LIE-berals for holding back shipments of new gravy-and Greens seriously expect to win votes by taxing the wealthy even further?)

Canada is one of the safest places in the world to invest. Rather than investing abroad, the majority of the Canadian Sustainable Generations Fund will be invested here in Canada – in Canadian jobs, education, infrastructure, small-business, and communities.

(If only it was that easy-democratic govts around the world have been `managing` and `stimulating` their economies for decades-and the only result has been soaring DEBT! More govt is the problem-NOT the solution!)

(Greens are offering us nothing but a half baked melange of poorly thought out schemes spiced with old and disgraced former LIE-beral money management policies! Do we really want to turn the clock bac k to the Pierre Trudeau era? There is a reason why he told us all to Fuddle Duddle and then gave that Salmon Arm salute....and Greens want us to return to that?)