BREAKING -- TransCanada Cancelling Two Major Pipeline Projects

TenPenny

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Yeah CN and CP branch lines go through the GTA.

What? You think that there's only two rail lines in Canada? The rail networks used to be a lot more complex than they are now but the GTA is not, has never been, will never be a part of the transcontinental main lines. Toronto et al. are on a branch.



Show me where there's an option to not go through GTA on either CP or CN, without going through the US.
 

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Outside of the obvious fuel depots, some places do allow for the use of small amounts of bunker fuel. For example, in several coal-fired plants bunker C is analogous to kindling when you're building a fire. There isn't a continual release of GHGs and particulate from bunker C when using it in that manner. And that's the major issue with it. It not just the GHGs but the particulate as well. The British NHS estimates that at least 20,000 people in port cities across Britain die every year from ship stack emissions.

Of course the idea that it's not banned in Canada could be based on the fact that it isn't de jure banned. It could still be de facto banned like the death penalty was for over a decade before it became legislated policy. That way, coal-fired plants can still generate power until they're scheduled to be mothballed.

...and yet the industry turned down Sir james dyson's smoke cleaning system for all fuels and coal...of course they did...

"Inventor's 'clean air' exhaust rejected

IT resembles a giant cocktail shaker, costs next to nothing to make, is easy to fit and could stop us getting some forms of cancer. Yet nobody, it seems, wants to know."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/inventors-clean-air-exhaust-rejected-1500439.html

High ya Ten Penny...get the picture yet?
 

petros

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Where are the Canadian ones?

For one thing, it leaves out the annual $14.5 billion in consumption subsidies — things like the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), which helps lower-income residents pay their (fuel oil) heating bills. (There are better ways to help poor people, but let’s leave that aside for now.)

Helping the poor doesn't count?
 

lone wolf

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Toronto is not "on the way across Canada" It is a sideline trip straight to the south of the main line that runs fairly directly between Montreal and Vancouver. No transcontinental freight runs through here, just freight destined for the Southern Ontario region or some crossing into the eastern US.

You have no clue ....
Any idiot can Google ... and you STILL haven't posted a link to this mythical third line. Even an unlikely back-up move on the former ACR to Hearst and along ONR (the former NTR) would route you through GTA as the line to Quebec City is cut between Cochrane and LaSarre and the connection in Rouyn remembers Lac Megantic.

Thus far, you have presented all the evidence of trolldom - and a willfully ignorant one at that. No need to look stupid ... just look
 
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captain morgan

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I'm actually dragging you into the reality that we are transitioning into a better economy.

Recessionary economies aren'twhat most people would consider as better

Well, even Irving Oil said that it was economics, not politics.

Petronas also said that cancelling their LNG project in BC was about economics and not a flaky Fed and provincial gvt.

... Funny though, in either case, the cost of the commodity hasn't changed as to dramatically alter the economics
 

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Ecotards like Flossy sit at there computers and type their bullshit on a forum and they feel good because they think they did their share for the planet then they drive their old wreck of a car that needs a tune up all the way across toronto to work every day...polluting the air with half burnt fumes....

Sorry Das but you are wrong there. Flossy types don't drive anywhere. They sit in the parental basement and troll the net waiting for their welfare cheque so they can buy another fantasy game.

Bunker fuel is even worst than marine diesel, I just looked it up....Thanks!

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...orld-produce-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars

Far as I know there are more than one grade of marine diesel and the taxes attached are different. In shore is summer diesel that anything under 1500 horsepower is designed for. There is a lower grade that large ships use in territorial waters where there are anti polution laws and then there is bunker C which is about 1 grade better than crude oil which is cheap and used where no laws exist. Like most of the long long way from Saudi a Arabia to New Brunswick.

Recessionary economies aren'twhat most people would consider as better



Petronas also said that cancelling their LNG project in BC was about economics and not a flaky Fed and provincial gvt.

... Funny though, in either case, the cost of the commodity hasn't changed as to dramatically alter the economics

Note also that that comment was made after the dippers took control of our government. In effect they said that dipper economic policy killed the project. They are simply not prepared to jump through anymore political inspired hoops until the potential ROI increases.
 

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Another funny thing. Consumption is only going up.
Of course we continue to grow our country by immigration and expect them to take the bus . Funny thing they want to drive to work like the rest of us .
 

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Kinder Morgan Canada kills request linked to Trans Mountain pipeline

Canada’s National Energy Board (NEB) regulator last month barred Kinder Morgan from installing the mats, which are placed on the bottom of waterways to prevent fish from laying eggs, saying they had “not yet been authorized.”
The company then sought relief, saying they were essential to stopping fish from being harmed during construction, and that a delay in installing them could push back the date for shipping oil on the expansion.
But in a letter to the regulator on Friday, a Kinder Morgan lawyer said the mats were effective only if put in place before the spawning season, which has begun, and that the window to install them had now passed.

A legal challenge being heard this and next week in Vancouver could overturn Trans Mountain’s approval.



Kinder Morgan Canada kills request linked to Trans Mountain pipeline | Reuters
 

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Kinder Morgan Canada kills request linked to Trans Mountain pipeline

Canada’s National Energy Board (NEB) regulator last month barred Kinder Morgan from installing the mats, which are placed on the bottom of waterways to prevent fish from laying eggs, saying they had “not yet been authorized.”
The company then sought relief, saying they were essential to stopping fish from being harmed during construction, and that a delay in installing them could push back the date for shipping oil on the expansion.
But in a letter to the regulator on Friday, a Kinder Morgan lawyer said the mats were effective only if put in place before the spawning season, which has begun, and that the window to install them had now passed.

A legal challenge being heard this and next week in Vancouver could overturn Trans Mountain’s approval.



Kinder Morgan Canada kills request linked to Trans Mountain pipeline | Reuters


maybe the regulator can get around to doing something about all the raw sewage that BC dumps in the ocean.... Billions of litres a month and counting

Surprised to see Nfld. doesn't rate a railroad!
 

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Surprised to see Nfld. doesn't rate a railroad!

They used to. It was a narrow gauge one and it was part of the CNR. I rode on the "Newfie Bullet" passenger train from Deer Lake to Cornerbrook in its last year of operation ... 1968. It was a nut-house on wheels! The Newfoundland car carry their train cars to North Sydney where, presumably, there was a section of narrow gauge for them to sit on while they were loaded.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/newfie-bullet/

That line is long gone, now and replaced by highways. That seems to be happening all over the country, I have just learned, even on the main lines of the biggest railways in North America!.

PEI used to have railways, too. The right of ways make wonderful bicycling trails because the grades are so gradual.