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bluebyrd35

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We have our own central bank which would be the envy of every country in the privately owned central bank world because it allows for sensible financing of capitol expenses at low or no interest
( well, also like the one state bank in the Dakotas that's going gang busters for that financially sound state)

UN Trudeau the elder sold us out to the private international debt slavers back in his day, and it hasn't stopped since.

Social programs are a massive manipulation scam paid for by the victims as they enslave themselves in the debt it creates.

As far as going back to Syria, well think about going back to YOUR own home town after someone blew it up trying to take over your country.
Dear me but I do wonder how many posting here get through their days. It would be hard to consider they were part of Canada, considering their unhappiness with the country.

2016 Canada was the 3rd happiest country in the world. This year it dropped to the 7th. As far as social programs go, which ones would you eliminate? The health care, unemployment insurance, primary education, pension plans, and don;t forget, originally even roads were privately build, Social programs are all paid for out of taxes and believe it or not most Canadians prefer when sick to not have to worry whether they will eat or pay for health care. Blanket removal of all social programs (freeing of slaves in your opinion) would have you living like those in war torn, or the wild west. I
 

DaSleeper

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Bitching against something doesn't mean we're unhappy with the country in general.....
I bitch every winter about having to shovel snow for five months....
But , really, Florida or Texas are nice to visit, in winter, but I wouldn't want to live with the danger of flash floods, hurricanes and tornadoes and the heat in the summer.
 

bluebyrd35

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Bitching against something doesn't mean we're unhappy with the country in general.....
I bitch every winter about having to shovel snow for five months....
But , really, Florida or Texas are nice to visit, in winter, but I wouldn't want to live with the danger of flash floods, hurricanes and tornadoes and the heat in the summer.
There is a difference between a decent complaint and outrageous ones. How does one even respond to the absurd except by going to absurdity in the opposite direction?? i.e. "Social programs are a massive manipulation scam paid for by the victims as they enslave themselves in the debt it creates."

AWWK
 

spilledthebeer

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Talk about denial! Geez.

Incredible as it may sound- some Cdns are so ignorant of money matters, they actually believe we can delete our national debts by simply choosing not to pay ourselves back! And there are others out there who do not understand why our LIE-beral overlords cannot simply borrow whatever money we need from Bank of Canada! Consider:


Here is a stupid question: Is debt bad by default? And here is a stupid LIE-beral answer-along with some comments of my own in brackets):

The answer is no."The demonization of deficits and debt - and the scaremongering that goes with it - may be a hangover of the wrenching fiscal actions taken by Ottawa in the mid-1990s to get under control a debt burden that ballooned through the 1970s and 1980s.

(The REALLY FUNNY thing about the above statement is that the “wrenching fiscal actions” were taken BY LIE-berals under prime minister Jean Chretien! Even LIE-berals recognize the demon debt-when they must! As part of that harsh action, Chretien REDUCED federal transfer payments to Ontari-owe from 57 percent of health care costs down to 17 percent and thumbed his nose at Mike Harris-the Ontari-owe premier with the HIGHEST mandate ever offered an Ontari-owe premier when he ran for a second term in office! Its just too bad that RED Tories sabotaged the party and our future by forcing Harris out and replacing him with imbecile Ernie Eaves!)

(Or perhaps the stupid questioner is referring to the “wrenching fiscal action” taken by LIE-berals in British Columbia soon after Ernie Eaves replaced Harris-the wrenching action in which B.C. LIE-berals tore up and unilaterally re- wrote civil service contracts with reduced benefits for Hogs!)


It may also be related to the recent deficit crisis in the Eurozone and the tough decisions those countries are making to address the problem. Or it may simply be part of the Conservatives' narrative in support of 'small government'.

(Small govt is does not automatically lead to “wrenching fiscal action” and to some a substantial degree, small govt IS beneficial! Currently we have civil service Working family Hogs dominating our electoral scene and engaging in a GROSS conflict of interest by SELLING their votes to keep compulsively spending-tax happy LIE-berals in power. Small govt means an end to unionized Hog labour acting as the grossly greedy tail wagging the Cdn dog. There is ample reason to suspect that Cdns have had enough of this costly Hog gravy train garbage and are getting ready to act-just as Britain staged its Brexit and Yankees supported Trump-there is good reason for Hogs to fear the silent Cdn majority going into the next election!)

(Small govt does NOT mean no govt and it certainly does not mean destruction of our health care system-nor reduction of any other govt service. Small govt simply means BETTER CONTROL of govt spending. Veterans Affairs Dept provides the same service as before even though some union Hogs in smaller and lightly used branch offices were fired and some other Hogs replaced by non union people. There will still be the same number of support staff in hospitals even if union control is reduced. All we are talking about here is preventing our services from being HEAVILY milked as cash cows by Hogs! We are NOT discussing reduction of any services! Less gravy for Hogs means MORE money FOR services! Do we get better service from one highly paid and arrogant Hog-convinced of his own importance? Or do we get better service from TWO decently paid workers who want to keep their jobs and don’t have dictatorial union goons to hide behind? The Hog devil is in the details!)

Unfortunately, this deficit-phobia is built on a fundamental misunderstanding of how sound fiscal management really works. To most Canadians, getting rid of deficits is the only thing that matters: If a government has a deficit, it must be an imprudent fiscal manager. But this is a myth and it's undermining our ability to make good policy - for ourselves and for future generations. Without debt, both public and private, economies simply could not function.

In other words, the complete elimination of the deficit was never an economic necessity - even if it is a (retarded) political necessity."

(Oh-if elimination of the deficit is not important then how about we TEST that theory and simply write off the 55 billion dollars that LIE-berals have promised to OSSTF-the Ontari-owe high school teachers? How about we see how teachers feel about deficits when their pension DISAPPEARS? It is set to happen some time around 2018 unless massive new money is BORROWED and made available to Hog pension managers! Since paying off deficits is not important we can safely ignore the Hog deficits in their pension plans-right!?

Time to get over your deficit phobia, Canada

(The imbecile who wrote this garbage about alleged deficit phobia CLEARLY collects a GENEROUS helping of that borrowed money and is clearly terrified that the flow of gravy is being shut off! If the situation were otherwise, that propaganda meister would be singing a DIFFERENT TUNE! The only people who support deficit financing are the people being PAID to like it! The rest of us know that deficits are bad -from looking at the evidence in our pay packets and tax bills and from reading the newspapers and watching the “PIGS” led by Greece-drown in red ink!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Canada’s federal debt | qualicuminstitute.ca

Read carefully...
And who was prime minister then?????

Firstly- for your information, it was Our Pet/PIerre Trudope who set the debt ball rolling! And for further information it is Pierre Trudope and his idiot son Justin who hold the Cdn record for most costly and spendthrift govts!

Now read the post below that addresses some of the reasons why it is madness to expect govt to somehow produce money debt free and interest free!

Here is an article describing a debate between some financial advisor named Harry Dent and an interviewer. And there are a few details that Harry left out regarding what an IDIOT idea it is to simply order the Bank of Canada tosimply print up money for LIE-beral govt as necessary for their gravy train madness! I have added my comments in brackets):

HARRY DENT: Economic Advisor XIV A Something For Nothing Economy

CHRIS MARTENSON:... This is deeply unfair that the Central Banks are printing outta thin air and it's really preferentially showing up in a very small set of pocketbooks. That's not really good for the social experiment. We have a lotta tensions around all of this, but let's talk about what it hasn't done. It hasn't led to a real resurgence in corporate R&D and the next wave of investments that are gonna do great things for growth or our future economy or productivity. We've got, ya know, financial engineering, we've got speculation, we've got prop trading...
Listen, Rome went down this path. You debase your currency, you just print it outta thin air.

(It is true that govt banks printing money this way IS BAD! Its worse that govt uses the money to BUY selected members of the community- with groups like civil service Hog unions being the main group, but with lots of other add ons like militant Black Lives matter goofs, wack job “artists”, corrupt natives and such. They are all grist for the LIE-beral vote buying mill!)

(And many people decry corporate welfare but since ALL govts do it we Cdns are stuck in the game! But of course the LIE-beral way of offering up dirty back room deals to THEIR corporate pals is WORSE for us than the Conservative way of simply keeping taxes low for everybody regardless of party membership-with the Conservative way you get less fly by night takers sucking up govt cash and then fleeing with it.)

HARRY DENT: Yep

CHRIS MARTENSON: Ya know, make your coins lesser and lesser actual metal content and people catch on, we're smart, we go, "Hey, if that's the game, I'll do this. I'll.. Why would I expend effort... trying to create real new valued products and services? It's risky and it's hard work. I'll just go over here into this highly speculative arena pool knowing that the Central Bank has got my back. They're gonna bail me out if I really screw up here and make bad decisions."

(WE all know govt is messing with money value-every time they change interest rates, or alter tax rates, or hand out grants and loans to select companies they are altering the value of OUR money! And they do it to THEIR ADVANTAGE!)

...That's just awful!

HARRY DENT: Yep, that's right. Why not just flip homes and speculate in tech stocks?

CHRIS MARTENSON: Yeah, Why not?

(Because organized crime has a lock on flipping houses-back in the 1970`s, CBC did a documentary on organized crime and real estate. Real estate renovation is good for all kinds of scams-for laundering money with fake income reports, for using stolen building materials with forged bills of sale. All manner of fraud comes with flipping houses! And of course govt taxes honest house renovators heavily while letting crooks off the hook because they are too much trouble to chase!

(As for messing with tech stock-that requires actual knowledge and one must go through rather toothless but not useless regulators and thus such stock flipping is therefore harder to do-with lower returns and it`s easier to track!)

HARRY DENT: Exactly.
It's a Something For Nothing Economy.
It's artificial. It's growing for the wrong reasons and all it has created... and people keep saying, "Oh, well, the Fed's gonna hit massive inflation at some point."
No, they're not. The problem with the Fed's policies, what's gonna kill dem and defeat this, is all they've done is create even greater bubbles, in debt, and in financial assets, real estate and stocks and everything, than we had in 2007 and they're gonna burst again.

Bubbles only burst, and they don't even need something big to happen. Real estate starting going down before the economy went down, before the sub prime crisis got nasty because it got too expensive and Baby Boomers were running outta their home buying cycle.

So bubbles always burst... and so that's the danger here...

(Our govt has tied its own hands here-they have forced down interest rates to the point that people see no reason to save a penny-assuming they have a penny left after govt taxes them fully! When inflation first really got revved in 1970`s and civil service Hogs began their march to upper class pay status, govt forbade them to invest their pension money outside Canada. But along the way greed got the better of everybody and Hogs got permission to invest offshore-it is Hog money that financed the growth of Chinese economy-for the sake of richer returns on Hog pension investments-and now its backfired -Hogs have created a monster that has devoured many Cdn jobs and slashed amounts of income tax coming to govt. Govt is stuck-greedy Hogs are still demanding gravy, but govt has LESS revenue! Govt has forced interest rates down to keep some life in economy, but low interest rates are allowing house prices to float ever UP because people can pay higher prices with lower rates, Debt levels are currently manageable as long as interest rates are low but one major economic bump and rates will rise with devastating effect on economy. At this point the single biggest threat to Cdn economy is the greed of Hogs-LIE-berals have promised Hogs HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in new pension gravy and we just don’t have it!)

(It is this greed for gravy that is driving LIE-beral govt to create carbon crap and trade taxes they KNOW will not clean the air-it will only clean wallets and for LIE-berals gravy is paramount-carbon crap is a smoke screen for desperate LIE-berals to make gravy out of carbon crap so they can stay in power! LIE-berals have sold off a part of Ontari-owe Hydro and slammed shut the books so we cannot watch them skimming off gravy!)

(Federal LIE-berals are engaged in importing a pack of immigrants who lack the skills to function well here in Canada without ongoing govt aid since LIE-berals have reduced language and education standards for immigrants and have handed out passports and airline tickets to Muslims whose values strongly conflict with mainstream Cdn culture and who will require costly life long security screening to reduce the odds of more terror attacks here. LIE-berals are turning a blind eye to a flood of people crossing the border from United States- there are so many coming that LIE-berals are quietly rubber stamping them as accepted without bothering to do any real security screening. LIE-berals are BUYING loyal dependents who cannot get along without regular govt aid-but these new arrivals WILL be loyal to LIE-berals! LIE-berals are perpetuating the “something for nothing” economy even as they rig our elections and voter base to ensure they stay in power!)
 

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Refugee board grants asylum to Sudanese wife and children, but rejects husband's claim

Himad and his wife married in Saudi Arabia, where they were both temporary residents, and sought asylum in Canada in January based on the husband’s claim that he was detained and beaten by the Sudanese National Security because of trumped up accusations of inciting unrest against the regime.
Himad’s wife Baraka Suleman Khalefa, an Eritrean national, claimed that if she was rejected and returned to Eritrea, she would face a serious possibility of persecution.
Their son, Ali, 18, said he feared the additional risk of forced conscription if returned to his father’s home country in Sudan, while the daughters, Rafif, 9, and Lamis, 4, claimed they would for certain be forced to undergo female genital mutilation if they stepped on Sudanese soil.
Refugee board adjudicator Vania Campana accepted everyone’s claim but Himad’s.
“With respect to the principal claimant . . . I do not find you to be a credible witness concerning material aspects of your claim,” Campana wrote in her decision delivered earlier this year, adding that Himad at times provided inconsistent information or was unable to recall details of the events in his claim.
“You sir are not a person of interest to the Sudanese government because of your political opinion and I therefore find that you do not face a serious risk of persecution in Sudan on this basis.”

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Immigration detainee says four years spent in custody violates Canada's charter

A failed refugee claimant who has spent four-and-a-half years in a maximum security jail because the government has been unable to deport him argued in Ontario Superior Court on Tuesday that his ongoing detention violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Ebrahim Toure, who has been locked up at Central East Correctional Centre in Lindsay since February 2013 despite not facing any criminal charges, is arguing that his detention is indefinite and arbitrary because there is no reasonable prospect he will be deported in the “foreseeable” future.
The 46-year-old, who was profiled earlier this year as part of a Star investigation into Canada’s immigration detention system, said he is not trying to stay in Canada and is willing to be deported. He said he was born in Gambia and grew up partly in Guinea, but has no identity documents. He can’t prove his citizenship to either country, so neither will issue him a passport or agree to take him back.
Immigration officials, meanwhile, accuse Toure — who used multiple aliases while working illegally in the U.S. in the early 2000s and previously insisted he was “100 per cent” from Guinea — of deceiving them and intentionally thwarting his removal. They believe his name is Bakaba Touray and that he is withholding information that would allow them to deport him. He says he has given them all the information he has.

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Yankies, Canadians: Racists are all the same...


 

spilledthebeer

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I knew that....It's called a rhetorical question.
just wanted others to discover that fact for themselves......

Oh well- LIE-beral propaganda never sleeps and we MUST keep clear the disastrous record of Our Pet Trudope! The guy is no friend of Canada nor is he a supporter of democratic values!

Here is what the Ottawa Citizen newspaper had to say about the Max Nemni biography of the life of Pierre Trudeau:


For anybody looking for the definitive answer to what manner of utterly destructive goof our former prime minister Pierre Trudeau was, one has only to look at the Ottawa Citizen review of a biography of his life written by Max and Monique Nemni. I have drawn out some highlights of that review and then added some comments of my own to the Citizen review and my words appear in brackets. The review appeared in the May 31, 2006 edition and the Nemnis are quoted as follows:

“We discovered a Trudeau who was remarkably different from what we and everyone else had assumed," authors Max and Monique Nemni write in their book, Young Trudeau: Son of Quebec, Father of Canada, 1919-1944.
Even those involved in the book's production say they were shocked at what it reveals about the man who is widely regarded as a modern father of Confederation.

"I was astounded and appalled by this lengthy and convincing account of Trudeau's intellectual journey to the age of 25, long past the age when these activities can be dismissed as youthful follies," says the book's publisher, Douglas Gibson, a long-time admirer of Canada's 15th prime minister.
(Gibson is referring to the Trudeau dedication to anti Semitism, radical Communist ideology and disdain for the democratic process and his separatist ideals).
However, the Nemnis' book draws on Mr. Trudeau's own writings to demonstrate that in the late 1930s, as a student at the Jesuit-run College Jean-de-Brebeuf, Mr. Trudeau ardently embraced the chauvinist francophone nationalism.

In 1936, at the age of 17, Mr. Trudeau wrote a school essay that portrayed him as someday leading a separatist army to create an independent and Catholic Quebec. In one school essay, he sketches a fantasy of being a revolutionary blowing up "the enemies' munitions factories."

"I will return to Montreal sometime around the year 1976: the time is ripe to declare Quebec's independence. The Maritime provinces join with us, and so does Manitoba. I take command of the troops and lead the army to victory. I now live in a country that is Catholic and Canadien."

Mr. Trudeau also demonstrated a distinct lack of multicultural credentials in his youth. He wrote a one-act comedy of manners in 1938 that "was intended to bring out the difference between dishonest and profiteering Jews and honest but too naive French Canadians." The play was selected by the college to mark its 10th anniversary and was "a great success."

Nor, it seems, was young Mr. Trudeau enamoured with liberalism. "Liberalism leads to excesses: to unemployment, anarchy," he wrote in jotting down the main ideas of the "first serious book" he'd read, Pour nous grandir by Victor Barbeau.

One book Mr. Trudeau particularly admired was by Alex Carrel, who won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 1912, and, in 1941, returned to Nazi-occupied Europe to become a star in the collaborationist Vichy regime led by Henri Petain. In L'homme, cet inconnu, published in 1935, Mr. Carrel denounced democracy as foolish and harmful.

"The equality of rights is an illusion. The feeble-minded and the man of genius must not be equal before the law. ... The sexes are not equal."

(I guess that Trudope remark about the `sexes` largely explains why Margaret Trudope ran off to New York/Studio 54 with the Stones and got FAMOUSLY photographed slouching without her underwear! Marg Trudope could give Brittany Spears lessons on public indignity! And no wonder she was a little unstable with a hubby like Pierre!)

Young Mr. Trudeau regarded it-the Carrel book- as the "perfect" book that needed "to be assimilated entirely."

As a first-year law student at the Universite de Montreal in the fall of 1940, Mr. Trudeau wrote notes on the defects of democracy: "Ignorance, credulity, intolerance, hatred for superiority, the cult of incompetence, and excess of equality, versatility, the passions of the crowd, the envy of individuals."
Indeed, like most Quebecers, Mr. Trudeau was against wartime conscription. But his objection wasn't just passive. Young Trudeau advocated what can only be, considering the circumstances, as treason.

In 1942, Mr. Trudeau gave a speech supporting the anti-conscription candidate Jean Drapeau, the future mayor of Montreal. The speech, say the Nemnis, was "anti-British (and) anti-colonial." He denounced the "military clique" ruling Canada and the "disgusting dishonesty" of the (LIE-beral!) Mackenzie King government in forcing conscription on French Canadians. "And if we are not in a democracy, let the revolution begin without delay."

(In other writings not connected to the Ottawa Citizen review, Turdeau was asked why he did not join the fight against Hitler and he responded “I was taught to stay away from Imperialist wars”!)

Rhetoric perhaps, but Mr. Trudeau went on to denounce the Canadian government for even having declared war against Germany in 1939, "at a time when America was not threatened with an invasion, at a time when Hitler had not yet won his staggering victories."

The Nemnis attribute Mr. Trudeau's youthful attitude to the influence of his upbringing and the social environment in which he was raised.

The Nemnis themselves have admitted in interviews that as friends of Mr. Trudeau, they were uncertain about revealing everything they discovered. The Nemnis, academics in the fields of political science and linguistics, describe themselves as left-leaning liberals and staunch federalists. Between 1995 and 2000, they edited the pro-federalist magazine Cite libre (and some call it Communist inspired as its idea of strong federalism included radical socialism as economic policy) at the urging of Mr. Trudeau, who was one of the magazine's founders in the 1960s.

"We were his friends and we wondered whether we should reveal this," said Ms. Nemni, who, along with her husband, got Mr. Trudeau's approval for the biography in 1995.

And they wonder why Mr. Trudeau saved the material, considering the damage it could do to his reputation. "We believe that he had failed to face up to the follies of his youth, but was unwilling to cheat with history."

(I say: The Nemnis and Douglas Gibson are of course desperately seeking some excuse for their suddenly disgraced and much admired leader and long time friend and they wish to pin his disgraceful attitudes onto youthful foolishness-this is deceit on a grand scale! Trudeau was a life long hard core communist who carefully followed the Stalinist party line.

In early 1939 when Stalin and Hitler announced their non aggression pact, it meant that Hitler became a Stalin ally and thus somebody to be supported by Trudeau. The pact cleared the way for Hitler to attack Poland in Sept/39-free from the threat of Soviet interference) and this turned Britain into a Trudeau enemy-daring to elect anti communist Churchill and then declaring war on Germany and when Canada joined the fight WE also became imperialist enemies of Trudeau!

The Nemi`s speak of a strong anti semitic streak in staunchly Catholic Quebec of the early 20th century and this would have been the a Trudeau value as well so they say. However the motivation for Trudeau to be riding about Montreal wearing a German army helmet derives from his Stalinist leanings. Jewish groups with the aid of Swiss Red Cross were doing all they could to expose the ever more savage atrocities committed against Jews, Slavs and political opponents in the Nazi occupied territories and they were making the Nazis look bad-and by extension they were making Stalin look bad so Trudeau took action.

There are a number of accounts of Trudeau riding through Jewish neighbourhoods on his Harley Davidson. Some stories suggest he only had the helmet while others say he wore a full Nazi uniform. One has to assume that since he was so busy writing speeches denouncing Britain; he often had scheduling troubles and simply donned the helmet and left the rest of the uniform at home-at other times with less demands on his time he donned the full uniform. He has also been reported giving the finger to Jews on the street-an early form of Salmon Arm Salute!

The Trudeau act with the helmet and uniform was not a one time thing nor was it a simple prank-his act was designed to send a message-one as plain and stark as planting a burning cross in front the residence of a 1950 Mississippi Black family. The message was this-we know who you are and where you live. You need to learn your place and keep your head down and your mouth shut-and MAYBE trouble will pass you by. I believe this is why Trudeau repeatedly appeared in Montreal suburbs in his regalia-as an attempt to intimidate anti Hitler critics into silence.

Of course when Hitler tore up the pact and invaded the Soviet Union, Our Pet returned to his single minded support of radical socialism).

(And how terribly sad that Our idiot Boy Justin seems convinced he should be loyal to the vile values of his wretched father!)
 

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OP you know you will be suicided right?? I believe this vid is supportive of the article in the op. PM Martin is right near the front and he was Minister of Finance so he should be an expert at answering a straight foreward question, blows it totally.
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Oh Canada Movie - Our Bought And Sold Out Land - Full

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Canada a country without a Constitution

2:25 is where it gets down to the nuts and bolts.

Apparently there is a protest today at a PQ/NY border crossing the illegals are using.
Shouldn't there be a few tunnels operating 24/7 under the St. Lawrence by now. Smuggling is how old to the area and now it's only a small protest. In a flood the cowboy passes in the Rockies is where the mass immigration would happen. It would remain open long after the people stopped coming as supplies and goods would flow both ways. Might as well mag lev a rail-line instead making it a foot path. In the thin air you might get close to mach I
 

spilledthebeer

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OP you know you will be suicided right?? I believe this vid is supportive of the article in the op. PM Martin is right near the front and he was Minister of Finance so he should be an expert at answering a straight foreward question, blows it totally.
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Oh Canada Movie - Our Bought And Sold Out Land - Full

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Canada a country without a Constitution

2:25 is where it gets down to the nuts and bolts.


Shouldn't there be a few tunnels operating 24/7 under the St. Lawrence by now. Smuggling is how old to the area and now it's only a small protest. In a flood the cowboy passes in the Rockies is where the mass immigration would happen. It would remain open long after the people stopped coming as supplies and goods would flow both ways. Might as well mag lev a rail-line instead making it a foot path. In the thin air you might get close to mach I

Tunnels? Wot in hell they need tunnels for? Dont you know that native cigarette smugglers do just fine with fast boats on the lightly patrolled border? No need to get all sweaty digging in the dirt! And as for the illegal aliens- hey- if they walk across then Cdn cops will help them through the muddy/slippery bits and carry bags and etc!

Its all LIE-beral inspired madness and as I have said before- ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing into disgrace! Consider this:


Here is an article illustrating the social cost of large scale Muslim immigration to any western country. With some comments of my own in brackets):

U.S. woman gets probation for tossing baby to her death

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. First posted: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:59 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:10 PM EDT

CHICAGO — A Chicago woman accused of throwing her infant daughter to her death from an eighth-floor window has been sentenced to probation.

The Chicago Tribune reports that 20-year-old Mubashra Uddin on Thursday pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter and a Cook County judge sentenced her to four years of probation. She originally was charged with first-degree murder in the November 2015 death.

Prosecutors said Uddin hid her pregnancy and killed the baby because she feared her Muslim parents from Pakistan wouldn’t approve. Prosecutors said Uddin gave birth and dropped the baby girl out of a bedroom window when she heard her mother approaching. A man found the newborn in the grass. The baby died the next day at a hospital.

Uddin was given credit for serving 603 days in jail.

anne hillebrand at annehillebrand2, November 20, 2015

(One has to have some sympathy for the Muslim girl in this article-she is caught between worlds here. The traditional Muslim values on one side and free and easy western values on the other side. The girl simply failed to navigate smoothly between the worlds and now her life is on the rocks. Her baby is dead by her own hand, her father is humiliated and shamed. Her family life has to be very much damaged by this legal mess. And Muslims have another social black eye to nurse and to live down.)

(One has to ask: WHAT GOOD CAME FROM THIS? Why should we continue to allow people to come here when they hold basic beliefs that are totally in opposition to so many of the social standards that WE respect? How can any of this large scale Muslim immigration mess end well? With so many other people in the world seeking aid, why then must we chose the most troublesome ones for citizenship? If we want to supply charity- and there is no reason why we should not- there ARE ways to help without also supplying a passport! And if we seek out people who hold more reasonable views, might we not motivate more radical types to either shun us or consider adopting more moderate ways? As it is we have simply persuaded Muslim immigrants that our religious freedom allows them to defy our laws and customs when it suits them because they are “free”!)