Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

Tecumsehsbones

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 18, 2013
60,318
9,513
113
Washington DC
That's what we have now, once you're elected your a dictator for the next four years.

You really think Trump controls the courts and the corporations? Or even the Congress of his own party?

You clearly haven't been reading much, except possibly whiny, pants-pissing neo-Nazi websites.
 

Corduroy

Senate Member
Feb 9, 2011
6,670
2
36
Vancouver, BC
No, no no.

It seems ridiculous, doesn't it? But if taxslave is saying that fascism or theocracy is far left, and so we can assume is communism, then the one thing that unites them is authoritarianism. The opposite of authoritarianism is anarchism. So that must be what he means by far right.

Some might say that libertarianism is far right, but there's still some government authority in libertarianism. What we need for an extreme ideology is the complete adoption of principles with no room to implement them further. I.E. no authority. That means anarchism.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

Satelitte Radio Addict
May 28, 2007
15,259
2,889
113
Toronto, ON


That's probably inaccurate. Authoritarians wouldn't want people to have guns, would they? Still, I thought it was funny.

Thanx. I realized I got the Y axis wrong after I posted but was away from a computer.
 

10larry

Electoral Member
Apr 6, 2010
722
0
16
Niagara Falls
My poison would be neither. A bullet to the back of the head in some unknown forest is no different than a firing squad against the wall. The Poles never got out from being under an oppressive yoke until Lech Wellessa, Pope John Paul II, and Gorbechev came on the scenes. All those statues were placed by the oppressive Communist regimes (Soviet and Polish) post WWII. The Soviets did not admit guilt for the Katyn Forest Massacre until the 1990's.

And the Nazis did bite off more than they could chew and the Soviets made them and the German people pay dearly.

I can't equate nazi random executions and death camps to ruskie bread lines that led to solidarity and eventually eu money to spend on roads n' stuff, with nazis in the mirror poles could at least breathe again.
Poland was in a tough neighbourhood, germany on one side ussr on the other, enemy tanks roamed the countryside then russia upped its' armour to oust the nazis and now u.s. armour roams the polish countryside to guard against the ghost of ussr, simply no quite time to enjoy a yzwiec.

Re: katyn, war oft sets the stage and humanity never disappoints in presenting grotesque dispatching mechanisms n' like all self respecting thugs they deny, deny, deny.

Is there an answer to trumps query of where the statue purge will end?
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,817
471
83
All sides are guilty of muddying the waters of clear terminology.

In my opinion, 'left' should be simply the submission to authority while 'right' should be synonymous with liberty.

Fukk the vertical/horizontal dichotomy which separates those concepts into some economic and social paradigm because both are intertwined and you run into contradictions.

A Nazi, fascist, communist and even a 'liberal' all require some level of authority and social order to grant their desires, so they are all on the left to varying degrees.

Libertarians, capitalists and anarchists are the antithesis of order and those are the ones that desire natural autonomy, so they should be on the right.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
I can't equate nazi random executions and death camps to ruskie bread lines that led to solidarity and eventually eu money to spend on roads n' stuff, with nazis in the mirror poles could at least breathe again.

I can certainly compare the Nazi executions to the Soviet NKVD executions regarding the Polish people. The Poles could breathe again with the war over period.

Poland was in a tough neighbourhood, germany on one side ussr on the other, enemy tanks roamed the countryside then russia upped its' armour to oust the nazis and now u.s. armour roams the polish countryside to guard against the ghost of ussr, simply no quite time to enjoy a yzwiec.

No question. Poland has always been in a tough spot with (historically) two massive and aggressive nations on either side. And you're right, they still can't breathe easy.

Re: katyn, war oft sets the stage and humanity never disappoints in presenting grotesque dispatching mechanisms n' like all self respecting thugs they deny, deny, deny.

Is there an answer to trumps query of where the statue purge will end?

Part 1... I agree

Part 2... I have no idea.
 

Tecumsehsbones

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 18, 2013
60,318
9,513
113
Washington DC
Is there an answer to trumps query of where the statue purge will end?
Not sure, but it's hard for me to object to removing statues of enemies of the United States of America from American cities.

I'd favor removing statues of Rall, Cornwallis, Santa Ana, Hindenburg, Rommel, Yamamoto, Giap, Hussein, and bin Laden from American cities, too.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
I just hope they leave the Battlefields alone at this point.

Are we going to start tearing up Gettysburg? The wall at Fredricksburg that the CSA held (the only part of the battlefield that is left). Simply sterilizing the landscape.
 

Tecumsehsbones

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 18, 2013
60,318
9,513
113
Washington DC
I just hope they leave the Battlefields alone at this point.

Are we going to start tearing up Gettysburg? The wall at Fredricksburg that the CSA held (the only part of the battlefield that is left). Simply sterilizing the landscape.
I haven't heard any plans to. Have you?

And you can bet if anybody does propose tearing up the battlefields, it's most likely to be. . .

real estate developers.

Bet you won't hear any bitching out of the White House over that.

I don't know about you, but I don't think traitors and enemies deserve statues. Though I'd be OK with a statue of Robert E. Lee with Grant's foot on his chest and sword at his throat.
 

justlooking

Council Member
May 19, 2017
1,312
3
36

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
I haven't heard any plans to. Have you?

And you can bet if anybody does propose tearing up the battlefields, it's most likely to be. . .

real estate developers.

Bet you won't hear any bitching out of the White House over that.

I don't know about you, but I don't think traitors and enemies deserve statues. Though I'd be OK with a statue of Robert E. Lee with Grant's foot on his chest and sword at his throat.

Well if you check the news this morning there are clearly rumblings about just that. I don't know if it will happen but there is certainly momentum.

Real estate developers would certainly love that.

Hey should we get rid of these? These are along Battle Road and the Old North Bridge Lexington & Concord.