Strawman, eh. Well, your opinion.
It's a matter of why you have drawn the line. How much you are willing to give up.
Apple's Tim Cook blasts order to unlock iPhone, vowing to fight court order
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Strawman, eh. Well, your opinion.
It's a matter of why you have drawn the line. How much you are willing to give up.
With respect to what? I've recently walked away from
$2000net/month to a smaller pay cheque to have an
improved home life...I'll adapt and be happy.
I know this might not seem to have anything to do with
Apple & Tim Cook to you, but to me it seems about as
relevant as your stance on torture or my girlfriends love
of gardening with respect to Apple & Tim Cook.
Maybe I'm reading your stance incorrectly and just am
not seeing the correlation between your statement and
the O.P., but I'm not seeing it. Apples & oranges.
What they are saying that if they remove their security measures, that that "unsecure" code may wind up in the wrong hands and be used on any phone. Also from my understanding, the FBI is using a statute from 1789 to ask for this. I am not sure how the founding fathers in 1789 has full knowledge of smart phones to truly understand the magnitude of the laws they were writing. I also think it is fundamentally wrong for the American government to force a company to 'break' its own security even if the cause is good.
https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
Only if phone is not passcode protected. If its passcode protected, they need a warrant.
So we assume that you get to decide what torture is. You are totally against torture, even though you call people names continually and the language on your avatar is telling as well. Do you suffer because your brain is miswired gerry? Is that torture?
Well it's bean a week and we haven't singularized you yet, but past a predetermined number if we remain unsatisfied we would simply eradicate your xcoordinates, please call central intelligemces -800-orelse.
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Nope. Read Fearon v. R.
The ruling also dispels any notion that a password lock on a cell phone may denote some expectation of privacy that would prevent an invasion by law enforcement.
I understand that they have a warrant...
You have an IPhone, probably a newer model than mine:lol: so you know that you have only ten tries at the passcode then the the phone is wiped, and if your phone is stolen you can wipe it remotely from any PC or phone, by loggin in to https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8
Apple could probably write a software update for one particular phone to disable that feature but they would need the passcode to update it.....catch 22
I have heard otherwise. But even if this was the case, it is unclear how they would get access to the phones data without the passcode.
Doesn't have to be made public. Lots of testimony is kept secret.
It is, and they can, as I'm sure they have, give permission to the authorities.
Hypothetical that goes against the interest of the state and public safety. That can also be mitigated by taking the measures with security. This is all quite easily negotiable.
I'm sure that all this stalling by apple is a tactic to placate their customer base, that they have great concern for their security,
In the end they will unlock the phone....
Then again.....what if they have already unlocked it, and this whole thing is a ploy to give other terrorists a false sense of security?
I'm devious that way ....:lol:
In the end they will unlock the phone....
Then again.....what if they have already unlocked it, and this whole thing is a ploy to give other terrorists a false sense of security?
I'm devious that way ....:lol:
A local cop and I were discussing that very thing last night.
Giving them a false sense of security and allowing the authorities to catch up to them.
Yeah dipsh-t that's what came to be. Did you read the 4 requirements? Obviously not. Good job.
Um, maybe I'm being naïve, but isn't there another way? I get that governments aren't always trust worthy (surprize) and I get that Apple wants to keep their phone secure.
Why doesn't the FBI give the phone to Apple and have them crack the code for that specific phone - then give the FBI the information. If there are any leaks as to how the information is accessed, we'll know exactly who to go to right? Apple can then say that their information is still secure and government has no idea of how the information is accessed. It's a win win -
What dy'a think?
JMO
Why doesn't the FBI give the phone to Apple and have them crack the code for that specific phone - then give the FBI the information. If there are any leaks as to how the information is accessed, we'll know exactly who to go to right? Apple can then say that their information is still secure and government has no idea of how the information is accessed. It's a win win -
What dy'a think?
JMO
It would work except the information obtained would be useless in a court of law. The whole chain of custody would be in question.
