Gun Control is Completely Useless.

EagleSmack

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Ahhh now you've got it. Just like the laws governing the operation of a motor vehicle. You know, first seat belts installed mandatory, then wearing them also mandatory. Licenses to make sure you know the rules of a road and registration to figure out who owns the car that is speeding. I am sure there were people who still believe seat belts are killing people more than they are saving them. You one of those??

No I am not.

But if we keep passing laws we can stop gun violence forever.

Also, some Congresswoman said if we ban high capacity magazines eventually people will shoot them all off and we'll run out of them. Are you one of those?
 

bobnoorduyn

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Ahhh now you've got it. Just like the laws governing the operation of a motor vehicle. You know, first seat belts installed mandatory, then wearing them also mandatory. Licenses to make sure you know the rules of a road and registration to figure out who owns the car that is speeding. I am sure there were people who still believe seat belts are killing people more than they are saving them. You one of those??


Is it my fault you do not read what I post??? I knew that when I posted the link. I should not have needed to post the chart....it was in the link. When replying to a post, it is better to read the whole article posted. That is why one must do one's own conclusions.

The stats as far as I am concerned work very well with the history of the gun control laws enacted. Of course they are tweaked over time to make them more effective. Are you about to declare we are more civilized or advanced humans than those in countries that do not have decent gun control laws?? Phooey, that is ridiculous. We are all as capable of drawing conclusions from facts produced, just as those who did the survey. How do you know how each feels about gun control? Everyone has biases and just by looking around all the countries that have it, it is more effective than those who do not have decent control laws.


The chart quite closely follows the demographics of baby boomers from adolescence to middle age and has nothing to do with firearms legislation, which is nothing more than a solution in search of a problem.

It seems there are many in all societies who were never taught what is acceptable in a civilized society. There are still people who beat dumb animals, and their own children, leave them in a car on hot days, drive without learning the road rules or simply disobeying them. Laws set the standards for society. So whether a law sets the standards for the treatment of others or how to lower the death rates on the road, or by guns, they have an affect.


You can't cure stupid, no matter how hard you try. It also seems that all, or at least enough in a "civilized" society can also be taught what is acceptable, to that "civilized" society. Ленин, Сталин, Goebbels, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, to name a few relied on what they referred to as their useful idiots. It worked well in the past and is working still. Here's a brief history, which is repeating itself in various counties around the globe.


Gun Control Measures Hazardous for Citizens: Newsroom: The Independent Institute


Law, in a civilized society, sets punishment for unacceptable behaviour, not for possible unacceptable behaviour. BTW, as a society, we're not civilized yet.
 

JamesBondo

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Ahhh now you've got it. Just like the laws governing the operation of a motor vehicle. You know, first seat belts installed mandatory, then wearing them also mandatory. Licenses to make sure you know the rules of a road and registration to figure out who owns the car that is speeding. I am sure there were people who still believe seat belts are killing people more than they are saving them. You one of those??

First,gun manufacturers installed a breech, barrel, and sights around the firearm. Laws now make sure that a firearm is safe for the operator. The operators life is saved every time the firearm is used on a paper target. Despite it's awesome record for saving lives, I am sure that there are people who still believe that a gun is designed for killing.

It seems there are many in all societies who were never taught what is acceptable in a civilized society.

I was taught that a civilian is entitled to freedom and liberty, and the natural right to defend oneself.

The thought that others would rather see a woman brutally victimized by a rapist/murderer sickens me.
 

bluebyrd35

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"First,gun manufacturers installed a breech, barrel, and sights around the firearm. Laws now make sure that a firearm is safe for the operator. The operators life is saved every time the firearm is used on a paper target. Despite it's awesome record for saving lives, I am sure that there are people who still believe that a gun is designed for killing."

Not enough in many countries is it?? It certainly hasn't brought down the gun violence, in countries, anywhere near the levels we have in Canada with the same guns but not the same laws.

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"I was taught that a civilian is entitled to freedom and liberty, and the natural right to defend oneself.

The thought that others would rather see a woman brutally victimized by a rapist/murderer sickens me."


LOL well I am a woman and I was taught, I didn't need a gun to protect me. Between reason, Canada's laws and smarts women on the average do not NEED a gun. For Gawd's sake quit seeing women as brutally victimized by rapists/murderers. I suspect men are brutally victimized just as often as women. The human species is flawed. Guns do not fix that!!

E S .........Clueless ideologue she is!
Will you ever contribute more than personal attacks??
 
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CDNBear

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He seems to be following me.....I think he likes me ......yuuk!
He did the same to me when I hurt his feels the other day. He's doing exactly what I predicted too, flaming from behind the iggy button. Like I said, they're all the same.
 

DaSleeper

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He did the same to me when I hurt his feels the other day.
Must be one of those man-crushes like Flossy has for Justin.....huh?
 

JamesBondo

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LOL well I am a woman and I was taught, I didn't need a gun to protect me.

Paradigms have shifted since Katrina. Ultimately, you are responsible for your own food,water,shelter,first aid, and - like it or not - your own security. The fact that you don't feel a need for a gun does not mean that you are immune to the terrible criminal acts that happen in this country.


Between reason, Canada's laws and smarts women on the average do not NEED a gun.

Are you seriously here to insist that women are dumb and unreasonable if they choose a gun rather than rely on their negotiation skills?

Do you realize how rare it is to unlock the criminal's empathy?


For Gawd's sake quit seeing women as brutally victimized by rapists/murderers.

No.

According to Justice Institute of British Columbia, one out of every 17 women is raped, 62% of rape victims were physically injured, 9% were beaten or disfigured.("Statistics of Sexual Assault in Canada". Rape Victims Support Network)
 

bobnoorduyn

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Not enough in many countries is it?? It certainly hasn't brought down the gun violence, in countries, anywhere near the levels we have in Canada with the same guns but not the same laws.


How's it working in places like Jamaica or Honduras that have what could be considered Draconian firearm laws? People don't realize that many states have even tougher laws than Canada, i.e. Connecticut, New Hampshire, New York, D.C (which isn't a state, but...), just to name a few. There are some 22,000 laws regulating firearms in the US, to what end?
 

bluebyrd35

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I will when you quit talking through your hat! and blame all legal gun owners for the crimes of a few thugs....
Don't keep drawing conclusion about what is not there. Legal?? In Canada, no need to blame anything on legal gun owners because the legal guns are not the problem here.

In many countries with no gun control laws, it IS the legal guns doing the killing, because most guns are legal without any decent controls who owns them!! Come on, those of us who expect common sense used keep getting disappointed in the responses.
 

JamesBondo

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In the case where all baseball bats are legal, it is legal baseball bats that are doing the bludgeoning.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Good question. Handguns are only considered 'restricted', as well as the infamous AR-15.


And the AR15 is only restricted because it looks scary. It is functionally no different than any other semi auto rifle. It is the civilian version of the fully auto M16, built for that market specifically. For those who don't know, the AR stands for "Armalite Rifle", it has no other meaning.

Don't keep drawing conclusion about what is not there. Legal?? In Canada, no need to blame anything on legal gun owners because the legal guns are not the problem here.

In many countries with no gun control laws, it IS the legal guns doing the killing, because most guns are legal without any decent controls who owns them!! Come on, those of us who expect common sense used keep getting disappointed in the responses.


I know of few countries with no gun control laws, and the most despotic of them have the strictest. Convicted felons in the US aren't allowed to own firearms, in some states even the possession of a single live round can send them back inside for five years or more.


But again, you're still laying most of the blame on the gun, and inanimate object, not the person behind it. Do you blame the car when a drunk gets behind the wheel of it? Do you blame your hammer when you smack your thumb with it?