Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JamesBondo

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Here's an article that touches on the rape victim issue.


Obama to Rape Victim: You Probably Won't Be Able To Use a Gun To Stop Your Own Rape Anyway | Daily Wire

President Obama would rather disarm Americans than allow them to fight their rapists. That’s the takeaway message from a stunning exchange at Thursday night’s gun control townhall event on CNN. Kimberly Corban, a 2006 rape survivor, asked Obama why he wanted to crack down on guns when women can use guns to protect themselves from rapists:

As a survivor of rape and now a mother to two small children, you know it seems like being able to purchase a firearm of my choosing and being able to carry that where me and my family are – it seems like my basic responsibility as a parent at this point. I have been unspeakably victimized once already and I refused to let that happen again to myself or my kids. So why can’t your administration see that these restrictions that you’re putting to make it harder for me to own a gun or harder for me to take that where I need to be is actually just making my kids and I less safe?

After pattering on about his sympathy for Corban and his unearned and patronizing pride for her – no tears for her rape, notably – Obama denied that any of his actions would make it more difficult for her to obtain a weapon. He completely ignored that he, like other Democrats, fights concealed carry weapons permits at every turn. Then he got to his real point: women don’t deserve guns, because they are incapable of defending themselves:

There are always questions as to whether or not having a firearm in the home protects you from that kind of violence…What is true is that you have to be pretty well-trained in order to fire a weapon against someone who is assaulting you and catches you by surprise. What is also true is always that possibility that firearm in the home leads to a tragic accident.

So, just to be clear, the President of the United States told a rape victim that she doesn’t need a firearm in the home because she probably won’t be able to defend herself from a rapist anyway, and one of her kids might shoot himself.

There’s that famed Obama sensitivity at work!

First off, as the Centers for Disease Control has reported, “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.” Second, the chances of your child being killed in the home by a gun accidentally are about the same as the chances your child will drown in a bathtub. And Americans are approximately 51 times more likely to die of accidental poisoning than accidental shooting.


Beyond all of that, the morality of depriving a woman of her one shot to prevent her own rape because you doubt whether she is responsible enough to hide her gun from her toddler is mind-bogglingly patronizing and patriarchal. Obama can’t pretend sympathy for a rape victim, then suggest she shouldn’t even have a gun in the home, let alone in the street, to stop her own victimization.

The left’s myopic focus on guns rather than villains has costs. Those costs are borne by the victims of villains who target those who can’t defend themselves
 

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NRA chief tells Hillary Clinton to 'bring it on' in gun control fight

Wayne LaPierre tells conservative conference that Democratic frontrunner ‘hates us’ and that she is ‘coming after every bit of our freedom’ if elected

The head of the National Rifle Association (NRA) warned Hillary Clinton on Thursday that she faces a long and bitter fight over gun control should she win the White House, declaring: “Bring it on.”

Wayne LaPierre, chief executive of the powerful gun rights lobby group, launched a scathing attack on Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and the media, claiming that the NRA has helped protect millions of children by advocating armed guards at schools.

Clinton “has been clear about one thing – she hates the second amendment”, LaPierre told the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) near Washington. “She hates us and is coming after every bit of our freedom.”

He added: “Mrs Clinton, if you want to come after the NRA, if you want a fight over the God-given rights of America’s 100 million gun owners, if you want to turn this election into a bare-knuckled brawl for the survival of our constitutional freedom, bring it on. We aren’t going anywhere – and we aren’t hard to find.

NRA chief tells Hillary Clinton to 'bring it on' in gun control fight | US news | The Guardian
 

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'My 4-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot'; Boy shoots mom while driving
Freida Frisaro, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:47 AM EST | Updated: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:06 PM EST
MIAMI -- A northeast Florida woman whose four-year-old son accidentally shot her in the back while they were travelling in her pickup truck is apparently a gun lover who made numerous social media postings about gun rights.
A community Facebook page listed under Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense was filled with posts advocating for gun rights, including a quote that says "My right to protect my child with my gun trumps your fear of my gun."
The Associated Press was unable to verify whether the page, which has since been taken down, belonged to Gilt. A person who answered the phone at her house on Thursday morning declined to comment.
Putnam County Sheriff's investigators were trying on Thursday to determine how the boy got his hands on the gun they say he used to shoot his mother.
Jamie Gilt, 31, of Jacksonville owns the .45-calibre gun the boy fired on Tuesday afternoon, Putnam County Sheriff's Office spokesman Joseph Wells said.
Wells said a deputy saw her behaving frantically inside the truck, which was stopped partially in the road. The deputy then saw she'd been shot in the back and the bullet had exited from her stomach area, Wells said.
Gilt told deputies her son had accidentally shot her, according to Wells. She was taken to a hospital and was in stable condition, but investigators had not been able to interview her, Wells said.
The boy, who wasn't injured, is with relatives. The Florida Department of Children and Families also is investigating.
Before it was removed from public view, the Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense Facebook page featured many posts from other pages supporting gun ownership and vilifying proposals for more gun control.
The short description of the page on Facebook said it was a place "to connect people that share a common goal. That goal is to protect and expand our 2nd Amendment rights."
After the news broke about Gilt's shooting, the posts appeared to be inundated with mocking comments from other Facebook users.
In comments posted March 7 to one post on the page, a user named Jamie Gilt wrote: "I can promise though, if someone breaks into my house, or tries to harm me or my family pretty anywhere, they will be shot and most likely killed. It's my right to protect my life." The same user later replied to another comment about teaching children to shoot: "All of ours know how to shoot too. Even my four-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot with the .22."
Investigators are trying to determine whether to bring charges against Gilt.
Under Florida law, it is a misdemeanour for someone to store or leave a loaded gun where a child has access to it.
"They must keep firearms secured and locked," Wells said.
Associated Press writers Jennifer Kay in Miami and Jason Dearen in Gainesville contributed to this story.

Jamie Gilt. (Facebook photo)

'My 4-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot'; Boy shoots mom while driving | W
 

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This incident could have been prevented by learning and applying the 4 rules of firearms safety, so it is not really a good candidate to use as a reason to violate the rights of 100 million+ firearms owners in the USA.
 

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As the NRA might say, if that woman had been properly packing her OWN gun when she was shot, she could have blown the little bastward away first, thus protecting herself.
 

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They should make the course police take and make it available online (GTA.357) and the atari duck gun can be upgraded to whatever specs you dial in and the screen on your 65" screen (3 if you are insanely rich)is the map be it Dodge in the wild west days or Rambo on the Inca's trails that network across South America you can either stand up or drive from the couch. (3 or 4 friends on the same couch running the controls would take away the boring part of being a gamers 'guest')

As the NRA might say, if that woman had been properly packing her OWN gun when she was shot, she could have blown the little bastward away first, thus protecting herself.
Arm the doorways with a 12ga shell and a trip wire. (or something creative like a hi-speed tennis ball thrower or a skeet shooter that covers the whole doorway with 24 in all being thrown at it.
 

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Arm the doorways with a 12ga shell and a trip wire. (or something creative like a hi-speed tennis ball thrower or a skeet shooter that covers the whole doorway with 24 in all being thrown at it.

I think you spent too much time "home alone".
 

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Clearly you have more invested into slandering the NRA than you do in discussing the issue seriously.

It's so easy to slander the NRA because it is populated by criminal madmen, mental midgets and really sick, sick psychopaths and little else.
 

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It's so easy to slander the NRA because it is populated by criminal madmen, mental midgets and really sick, sick psychopaths and little else.
Of course you would think that .
All Americans fit that statement to a key .

Right .
 

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Of course you would think that .
All Americans fit that statement to a key .

Right .

About a quarter of them, yes. That place is in a steep decline and it is about to dissolve into total lawlessness.

I will remember when they were a great power but you are probably a bit too young to remember that.
 

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About a quarter of them, yes. That place is in a steep decline and it is about to dissolve into total lawlessness.

I will remember when they were a great power but you are probably a bit too young to remember that.
Right child .
 

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About a quarter of them, yes. That place is in a steep decline and it is about to dissolve into total lawlessness.

I will remember when they were a great power but you are probably a bit too young to remember that.
Surest evidence of that is the fact that violent crime in all categories is down 50% from 20 years ago.

Yup, we're screwed.
 

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