A Little Girl Died Because Canada Chose Cultural Sensitivity Over Western Medicine

Cliffy

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In reading over the narrative, it is not clear as to whether it is the government sensitivity to culture that is at fault. It appears to be more of a sensitivity to religion. To wit, "Makayla died not only from leukemia, but from faith—the faith of her parents, who are pastors. They not only inculcated her with Christianity, but, on religious grounds, removed her from chemotherapy "


Religion, not culture, seems to be the problem which caused this tragedy.
Oh, now you have gone and messed up the bigots' argument. Now they have to deal with Christianity instead. Woe, that will be a ball buster for them "christians", eh!
 

Machjo

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No, just sterilize them.

Actually Canada did do that to many indigenous Canadians.

And it is ironic that some breakthroughs in Canadian medicine owe their thanks to medical experiments in residential schools such as research on vitamin supplements to ill-nourished children at residential schools in the '60's.
 

AnnaG

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<shrugs> Who knows? I do not.

In reading over the narrative, it is not clear as to whether it is the government sensitivity to culture that is at fault. It appears to be more of a sensitivity to religion. To wit, "Makayla died not only from leukemia, but from faith—the faith of her parents, who are pastors. They not only inculcated her with Christianity, but, on religious grounds, removed her from chemotherapy "


Religion, not culture, seems to be the problem which caused this tragedy.
It is more like the parents' religious beliefs than the religion itself..
 

tay

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So now that the Cons are out of poower the New Republic is blaming the Harper Cons and their Office of Religious Freedom for this?

New 'religious freedom' office raises questions - Politics - CBC News

Canada’s Office of Religious Freedom

And they could be correct in doing so as in 2008 six newborns were seized from a Jehovah Witness family for blood transfusions and that was not well accepted by the religious crowd and I guess Canada (Harper Cons) heard them.

MD defends Jehovah's Witness babies' transfusions | CTV News

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/131759-makayla-has-passed-away-girl.html?highlight=Makayla

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/n...rl-chooses-traditional.html?highlight=Makayla

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/n...s-girls-family-rejects.html?highlight=Makayla
 

DaSleeper

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Oh, now you have gone and messed up the bigots' argument. Now they have to deal with Christianity instead. Woe, that will be a ball buster for them "christians", eh!
Great of cliffy to ignore the whole article for one paragraph that blames Christians...
Look away....no friggin bias here....
 

Cliffy

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Great of cliffy to ignore the whole article for one paragraph that blames Christians...
Look away....no friggin bias here....
But it was OK for you to ignore that fact and blame it on the parents cuz they were ignorant injuns. You wouldn't know sarcasm if it beat you over the head, just like all your Con buddies who are so quick to judge.
 

DaSleeper

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But it was OK for you to ignore that fact and blame it on the parents cuz they were ignorant injuns. You wouldn't know sarcasm if it beat you over the head, just like all your Con buddies who are so quick to judge.
Typical wannabe politically correct retort!

Especially ignoring the cases where the government intervenes when it is simply for religious reasons but when there is cultural reasons in the mix ,they back away...
Don't be such a hypocrite...
 

Cliffy

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Typical wannabe politically correct retort!

Especially ignoring the cases where the government intervenes when it is simply for religious reasons but when there is cultural reasons in the mix ,they back away...
Don't be such a hypocrite...
The government has no business intervening in people's affairs and your opinion on how other people should live their lives is worthless.
 

Kreskin

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It's called Religious Correctness, not Culturally Sensitive!
 

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In reading over the narrative, it is not clear as to whether it is the government sensitivity to culture that is at fault. It appears to be more of a sensitivity to religion. To wit, "Makayla died not only from leukemia, but from faith—the faith of her parents, who are pastors. They not only inculcated her with Christianity, but, on religious grounds, removed her from chemotherapy "


Religion, not culture, seems to be the problem which caused this tragedy.
Don't be silly. If a Christian Indian does something monumentally stupid, it's because she's an Indian, not because she's a Christian.

Merciless Indian Savages, don'tcha know.

Deserved to die.
 

darkbeaver

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Not really news. This happened awhile ago. It was a stupid move in any case. It shouldnt have been allowed to happen.



A lot of people seem to. I disagree. Far too many parents act as if their children are their property to do with as they please.


So do these children belong to the state? None of us are familiar with this particular patients condition at the time of refusal. I have read many accounts of the effects of chemo there are thousands of them published and the introduction of toxins to starve the cancer cells kill the good and the bad tissue with no discrimination.
Last thing to consider: Seventy-five percent of all physicians in the world refuse chemotherapy for themselves!
 

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Oh, now you have gone and messed up the bigots' argument. Now they have to deal with Christianity instead. Woe, that will be a ball buster for them "christians", eh!

How so? That's BS too. Not getting your child treatment because it is against some sort of religion is asinine.

So how's that you bigot?

Great of cliffy to ignore the whole article for one paragraph that blames Christians...
Look away....no friggin bias here....

Because he's a bigot.
 

EagleSmack

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In reading over the narrative, it is not clear as to whether it is the government sensitivity to culture that is at fault. It appears to be more of a sensitivity to religion. To wit, "Makayla died not only from leukemia, but from faith—the faith of her parents, who are pastors. They not only inculcated her with Christianity, but, on religious grounds, removed her from chemotherapy "


Religion, not culture, seems to be the problem which caused this tragedy.

And they're idiots.

We had a similar case in Massachusetts. A couple let their child die in agony and choose prayer instead of seeking help for a blocked bowel. Oddly both parents had glasses and the father recently had a tooth pulled.

Sarcasm, a tool when reasonable arguments fail

Without a doubt. They got exposed. What the doctors said would happen did indeed happen and all the smudging and mud rubbing did nothing.
 

darkbeaver

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In reading over the narrative, it is not clear as to whether it is the government sensitivity to culture that is at fault. It appears to be more of a sensitivity to religion. To wit, "Makayla died not only from leukemia, but from faith—the faith of her parents, who are pastors. They not only inculcated her with Christianity, but, on religious grounds, removed her from chemotherapy "


Religion, not culture, seems to be the problem which caused this tragedy.

Many patients who refuse the chemo treatments both before or during the proceedure while not members of any organized religion can still be said to have done so because of religious belief or reasons of trust/faith in some other form of treatment or they simply read the available liturature surrounding outcomes from the chemo itself and determined not to go through the agony of a kind of modern day exorcism which does nothing but kill healthy white blood cells. Many patients are declared free of cancer and released from hospital only to die within five years from the chemo. These deaths are frequently under reported or misreported to shield the chemo industry.
 

Kreskin

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Many patients who refuse the chemo treatments both before or during the proceedure while not members of any organized religion can still be said to have done so because of religious belief or reasons of trust/faith in some other form of treatment or they simply read the available liturature surrounding outcomes from the chemo itself and determined not to go through the agony of a kind of modern day exorcism which does nothing but kill healthy white blood cells. Many patients are declared free of cancer and released from hospital only to die within five years from the chemo. These deaths are frequently under reported or misreported to shield the chemo industry.
If they are under reported how do you know about them? Do they report it to you Beave, just not the authorities?
 

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It reminds me of the Rotherham abuse scandal in which South Yorkshire Police refused to arrest the gang of Pakistani Muslim men who groomed and sexually abused white girls. They didn't arrest them because they were scared that they would be accused of racism had they done so. In other words, Plod was more concerned with being all PC and not being "racist" than they were about the welfare of (white, working class - so that explains it) girls. Let's face it, the only people who would have accused Plod of racism for arresting the gang of Pakistani Muslim men who sexually abused (white, working class) girls would have been other Pakistani Musulmen who think they should have free rein to do everything they want and Loony Tunes Lefties like the weirdos who post on here.
 

petros

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is this statement true or false?

Makayla would be alive today, and J. J. might survive, if only Canadian physicians, jurists, and bureaucrats could overcome their fear of looking like bigots.