Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[AnnaG]

...the real victims are those we leave behind.

Nuts. Everyone involved is a victim and so is society.

lol @ suicide defenders.

Suicide defenders? Again, nuts. SOme folks simply understand and explain some of the reasoning behind suicide and the people that attempt it.

and try to explain The majority of individuals who commit suicide do not have a diagnosable mental illness.

Why? You just did.
Do you think it might be possible that their circumstances drive them to suicide as a means of escape? Extreme despair, anxiety, etc. may not have a physically or mentally detectable reason. That's why mental health pros ask so many questions.

Studies show those who have failed a suicide attempt regret trying in the first place. Have fun in hell emos.

That may be after they've been counselled and have been shown ways around their anxiety or despair or whatever. The condition that drives them into attempting suicide is extremely subjective; proverbially, being between the rock and a hard place thing and unable to vision a future for oneself.
So it's easy to sit back in one's chair and be all comfy and judgmental when you have 3 squares a day, a good roof to sit under, folks who do not ignore you surrounding you, dreams to strive to fulfill, etc.

It would be interesting if anyone explored the history of weaponry. From the dawn of civilization until now.

Hubby's read quite a bit about the history of weaponry in Japan. Why he started out was because he was very curious about the steel in tantos, wakizashis, tachis, etc. I know a little about small arms. Weaponry is a very large subject.

 

[B00Mer]

Dang girl, you're just all over the place ain't ya.. :lol:

Suicide to weapons

You're not going to change my mind... there are a lot of people in the world and you can't box in the reasons one kills themselves...

People die all the time, I don't feel sympathy for them... I don't even know them. They have never touched my life in any way..

I do however feel empathy for those around me, or have touched my life in some way.. Like Robin Williams. It's sad that he was unable to get the help necessary.

However some douche jumping off a building or over dosing on pills, slashing wrists.. they are out of the pain they presumed they were living in.. The End.

 

[AnnaG]

Dang girl, you're just all over the place ain't ya.. :lol:

Suicide to weapons

You're not going to change my mind... there are a lot of people in the world and you can't box in the reasons one kills themselves...

People die all the time, I don't feel sympathy for them... I don't even know them. They have never touched my life in any way..

I do however feel empathy for those around me, or have touched my life in some way.. Like Robin Williams. It's sad that he was unable to get the help necessary.

However some douche jumping off a building or over dosing on pills, slashing wrists.. they are out of the pain they presumed they were living in.. The End.

So then you wouldn't even care about the people in Fukushima, Haiti, the kids at Umpqua Community College, that Jeremy Cook kid in London, ON, etc.?
That's a particularly foul attitude. Why do you even bother to comment on disasters, shootings, etc. if you don't care then?

 

[bluebyrd35]

I don't know how many times it has to be said for it to sink into some peoples' thick skulls. Guns are NOT a problem, any more than knives, bludgeons or vehicles are a problem, they are as useless as a stick of dynamite without a blasting cap. Get the nut cases behind bars and there will be very few problems.

Sooo, how does that stack up against the nation with the highest gun ownership in the world, also has the most killings, by those guns?? The ratio of guns to killings match, just as reasonable laws, on guns, match the number of killings.

 

[B00Mer]

So then you wouldn't even care about the people in Fukushima, Haiti, the kids at Umpqua Community College, that Jeremy Cook kid in London, ON, etc.?
That's a particularly foul attitude. Why do you even bother to comment on disasters, shootings, etc. if you don't care then?

Because that is mass deaths, which is affects dozens of lives maybe hundreds..

But one guy jumping into the river, or from a building.. Tragic for those around him, however in the end the mans pain and suffering is no more, is it?

R.i.p.

 

[JLM]

...the real victims are those we leave behind.

lol @ suicide defenders. The majority of individuals who commit suicide do not have a diagnosable mental illness. Studies show those who have failed a suicide attempt regret trying in the first place. Have fun in hell emos.

undiagnosable doesn't mean it isn't real and what isn't real to one person may be very real to another. Do you think the pink elephants some alcoholics see aren't real?

Sooo, how does that stack up against the nation with the highest gun ownership in the world, also has the most killings, by those guns?? The ratio of guns to killings match, just as reasonable laws, on guns, match the number of killings.

For sake of argument if you outlaw guns do you really think that is going to reduce the numbers of killings?

 

[darkbeaver]

How can a country who leads in killings possibly give a fu ck about killings? It dosn't, it does care to be seen and heard to care and that is as much as matters , pure perception, a careing nation. hahahahahaha

Hey how about a national day of killing and careing, tee shirts, ribbons donations, media blitz, that'll fix everything. hahahahaha

Why because I don't care?

If you are selfish enough to do something like that, then you get zero sympathy from me. It was your choice and your actions which at all times were in your control.

If you're that depressed seek professional help.

Smith & Wesson is always there to help you over troubled waters.

 

[Danbones]

"OREGON SHERIFFS Tell Gun Grabbers To Shove It"
OREGON SHERIFFS Tell Gun Grabbers To Shove It - The Gateway Pundit
An expert opinion(s) on the matter
there's pictures too for them other types
that's about crime and justice and rights...
where the rubber meets the road
grabbing guns is a very slippery slope

now, on the subject of using guns to stop the invasion of 40 million illegal invaders
did guns stop that
NO!!!
so, guns are not the only solution to problems
that's what hearts and brains are for
now... back to why does america need guns so bad then?

 

[AnnaG]

Because that is mass deaths, which is affects dozens of lives maybe hundreds..

But one guy jumping into the river, or from a building.. Tragic for those around him, however in the end the mans pain and suffering is no more, is it?

R.i.p.

Ah, so you only like to pay attention when there's enough deaths. I see. I feel the same about chocolate and shrimps and carrots.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ah, so you only like to pay attention when there's enough deaths. I see. I feel the same about chocolate and shrimps and carrots.

Or when he thinks he has a point to make. Boomster cares deeply about the death of a five-year-old girl in a Cleveland drive-by, if he can use it to attack Black Lives Matter.

But seven-year-old Stanley-Jones, shot in the head by Officer Joseph Weekley? Boomster'll tell you "Cops have a really tough job, and have to be able to protect themselves."

From sleeping 7-year-old girls.

 

[B00Mer]

Smith & Wesson is always there to help you over troubled waters.

Smith & Wesson is always here if I get a terminal illness like Cancer and I'm going to go out in sever pain. At some point meds won't help the pain, at that point a hollow point will.

But at my last checkup I'm as healthy as a horse so far.

I had a friend who was on a morphine drip because of the pain from cancer, at some point he doubled the intake and overdosed. A peaceful way to go I guess..

 

[JamesBondo]

Sooo, how does that stack up against the nation with the highest gun ownership in the world, also has the most killings, by those guns?? The ratio of guns to killings match, just as reasonable laws, on guns, match the number of killings.

Please slow down and valid/clarify your claim. How is the US the highest gun ownership in the world, have you not heard of switzerland where almost every house has a military weapon?

Furthmore, I suggest that you go back to the original post on this thread before you start talking about ratios of guns and killings.

 

[B00Mer]

Please slow down and valid/clarify your claim. How is the US the highest gun ownership in the world, have you not heard of switzerland where almost every house has a military weapon?

oops dam iphone ment to give a thumbs up and I gave a red JamesBondo

 

[JamesBondo]

oops dam iphone ment to give a thumbs up and I gave a red JamesBondo

Np boomer

 

[AnnaG]

The byrd seems to love giving facts the bird.

 

[eh1eh]

 

[AnnaG]

The Swiss are up there in the list and so are Serbs and Yemen's people, according to 2014 stats in WIki. The USA is at the top of the list, though.
But the numbers of guns is not the biggest issue anyways.
At least 3 facts really stick out like orange tennis balls in the grass:
1. Criminals do not care about laws (I shouldn't need examples to point that out),
2. Ban guns and only criminals will have them (besides police et al),
3. It's the attitude of the society and its people towards guns that is the problem (an example being Switzerland).
Japan practically eliminated gun-ownership and yet it still has an occasional shooting.

erm No.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I don't know how many times it has to be said for it to sink into some peoples' thick skulls. Guns are NOT a problem, any more than knives, bludgeons or vehicles are a problem, they are as useless as a stick of dynamite without a blasting cap. Get the nut cases behind bars and there will be very few problems.

Right so do we allow a child to use a knife without showing him how to use it?? Do we allow just anyone to use dynamite around the house?? Can just anyone drive a car without passing a test to prove they are capable of doing so?? Did you allow your children to bludgeon it's siblings?? Or do you consistently attack your neighbor with a knife or bludgeon them when they annoy your??

So why allow anyone to purchase & use a gun before they can prove they know how to use one, to not get a license for one or buy one without a background check, without passing a test on how to use one. To know enough to lock it up securely when not in use, to keep it out of reach of children, know the rules on storing a gun and bullets separately, etc. etc.

We can say a car doesn't get into an accident by itself, but how safe would anyone be on the road without traffic signals, stop signs, reasonable speed limits, driving lessons or proving themselves capable of knowing how to drive??

It is not me that has the comprehension problem but those who believe the US should continue on with their gun laws as they are!! For goodness sake, they have by far the worst record of loss of life due to their lack of laws.

 

[Curious Cdn]

How about asking the prospective purchaser "Why do you need to own a gun"? There are a few good reasons why you should have one but they don't apply to very many of us.

 

[JamesBondo]

Right so do we allow a child to use a knife without showing him how to use it?? Do we allow just anyone to use dynamite around the house?? Can just anyone drive a car without passing a test to prove they are capable of doing so?? Did you allow your children to bludgeon it's siblings?? Or do you consistently attack your neighbor with a knife or bludgeon them when they annoy your??

So why allow anyone to purchase & use a gun before they can prove they know how to use one, to not get a license for one or buy one without a background check, without passing a test on how to use one. To know enough to lock it up securely when not in use, to keep it out of reach of children, know the rules on storing a gun and bullets separately, etc. etc.

We can say a car doesn't get into an accident by itself, but how safe would anyone be on the road without traffic signals, stop signs, reasonable speed limits, driving lessons or proving themselves capable of knowing how to drive??

It is not me that has the comprehension problem but those who believe the US should continue on with their gun laws as they are!! For goodness sake, they have by far the worst record of loss of life due to their lack of laws.

So are you saying it is a public safety issue just like residential swimming pools?

How about asking the prospective purchaser "Why do you need to own a gun"? There are a few good reasons why you should have one but they don't apply to very nmsny of us.

One hand points the gun at the criminal while the other hand dials the police. Don't make me hold a rifle with two hands.