Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[DaSleeper]

Well for gawd's sake does it matter?? It has to do with how each of our countries evolved. One born in war and one peacefully (relatively) It explains an lot about our present day outlooks, doesn't it??
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What it shows is how you do your research and your proclivity for shooting of your mouth...(pun intended) with no proof to back it up or when when people bother to look it up ,....your data is out dated or completely made up or false ... that's why it matters!
You try to come off like an authority on the subject when you don't know S F A about it.
Even the one who wrote the OP on this thread Has given up on you....I sometimes wonder why the rest of us lifelong gun owners even bother acknowledging your posts.....

 

[Curious Cdn]

what you asked two of your loonie tunes friends to come up with that projection? Most Canadians outside of cities and many in cities have at least one rifle or shotgun. It is only citiots that tend towards unlicenced automatic handguns.



I know several foresters that carry in bear country. Makes perfect sense to me.



WHy? You planning on breaking into their houses at night?

I would never have thought of that. Perhaps you have done that very thing?

 

[JLM]

If the future of America promises Endless War, be rest assured that this is no different than her past. Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.

"We're at War!" -- And We Have Been Since 1776: 214 Years of American War-Making | loonwatch.com

Including the "Battle of the Little Big Horn" (1876) no doubt.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Amazingly, Canada spent a total of five years of the twentieth century at war during two rare periods when the Americans were not at war with anybody.

 

[pgs]

Amazingly, Canada spent a total of five years of the twentieth century at war during two rare periods when the Americans were not at war with anybody.

Did you forget Korea ? How about Africa ?

 

[bluebyrd35]

Actually, its 222 out of 239 years.....

Â*America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776Â* :Â* Information Clearing House - ICH

You....got your numbers from Loonwatch.....go figure :lol:
From 4 years ago...
"We're at War!" -- And We Have Been Since 1776: 214 Years of American War-Making | loonwatch.com

James What?? Well it seems to me it is really difficult to get gun deaths, involving children, teenagers, criminals and mental patients if the access to guns are controlled under the law.

Anyway, tightening the laws in Australia has worked while laissez-faire attitude in the US hasn't.

By the way sleepy, Canada has been involved in only 5 wars since confederation. I would say, how a country comes into being has a lot to do with how it proceeds.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Did you forget Korea ? How about Africa ?

You didn't understand what I wrote. Read it again.

I was referring to the two world wars. When we were at war in Korea, so we're the Americans.

What War did we fight in Africa?

Canadian soldiers did participate in a war in Africa a century and a half ago. Lets see if you can Google that one.

 

[bluebyrd35]

You didn't understand what I wrote. Read it again.

I was referring to the two world wars. When we were at war in Korea, so we're the Americans.

What War did we fight in Africa?


The Boer War.


Sleepy,
Instead of ranting and raving about me personally, you might try contributing something useful Did the data change any?? Did the wars become less?? No. So what is your problem. I had a choice of many with the same data, I chose that one deliberately, thinking of you. You didn't disappoint did you??

 

[Curious Cdn]

Instead of ranting and raving about me personally, you might try contributing something useful Did the data change any?? Did the wars become less?? No. So what is your problem. I had a choice of many with the same data, I chose that one deliberately, thinking of you. You didn't disappoint did you??

I don't know what your problem is but I was responding to pgs post and it had nothing whatsoever to do with you.

P.S. I forgot about the Boer War for a moment ( still haven't had my wake-up coffee) and, of course, the Americans had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

We had an earlier foray into Africa that is sort of forgotten by most.

http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/page-574-eng.asp

 

[petros]

Come over for a cup. I'll introduce you to the rest of the Cartridge Family.

 

[Colpy]

Just to drag this back on topic for a moment.....


The anti-gun people are always claiming the USA has the highest murder rate in the "first world", so I set out to show they are telling untruths.


"First world" has a number of different definitions, so I decided to use the UN Human Development Index, and compare the murder rates in the 49 countries listed with Very High Human Development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
All rates per 100,000 per year, and just for fun I added their rank in the Guns per Capita list in brackets.
United States: 4.7 (1)
Latvia: 4.7 (30)
Estonia: 5.0 (63)
Argentina: 5.5 (60)
Lithuania: 6.7 (157)
Also just for fun, I am listing here the 6 nations that appear both in the Very High Development Index, and in the top ten gun owning countries in the world:
United States: 4.7 (1)
Switzerland: 0.6 (4)
Cyprus: 2.0 (5)
Saudi Arabia: 0.8 (6)
Sweden: 0.7 (9)
Norway: 2.2 (10)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Draw your own conclusions. Aside from the obvious one that I don't have a life.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Draw your own conclusions. Aside from the obvious one that I don't have a life.

Seriously, dude. Take in a movie or something!

 

[DaSleeper]

I don't know what your problem is but I was responding to pgs post and it had nothing whatsoever to do with you.

P.S. I forgot about the Boer War for a moment ( still haven't had my wake-up coffee) and, of course, the Americans had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

We had an earlier foray into Africa that is sort of forgotten by most.

Canadian Military Heritage

Don't worry about birdie, she still hasn't learned how to quote properly...lol
And she does like to ramble on....
You have to learn how to read her posts with your head down, since the contents tend to make you eyes roll up...
Another thing.....don't read them while drinking coffee unless you have a towel handy......
And BTW what do wars outside the country have to do with crime inside?

 

[bluebyrd35]

Just to drag this back on topic for a moment.....


The anti-gun people are always claiming the USA has the highest murder rate in the "first world", so I set out to show they are telling untruths.


"First world" has a number of different definitions, so I decided to use the UN Human Development Index, and compare the murder rates in the 49 countries listed with Very High Human Development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
All rates per 100,000 per year, and just for fun I added their rank in the Guns per Capita list in brackets.
United States: 4.7 (1)
Latvia: 4.7 (30)
Estonia: 5.0 (63)
Argentina: 5.5 (60)
Lithuania: 6.7 (157)
Also just for fun, I am listing here the 6 nations that appear both in the Very High Development Index, and in the top ten gun owning countries in the world:
United States: 4.7 (1)
Switzerland: 0.6 (4)
Cyprus: 2.0 (5)
Saudi Arabia: 0.8 (6)
Sweden: 0.7 (9)
Norway: 2.2 (10)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Draw your own conclusions. Aside from the obvious one that I don't have a life.

What the heck is the first world?? I will tell you this....The US has the highest rate of murder/gun violence in the developed world. It also has the largest number of guns per capita. It also does not do proper background checks and now that the US has guns coming out the wazzu, the guns are being smuggled into any possible market around the world. The weapons industry is probably if not the largest money making one in the US at the present time, it comes pretty darn close. Probably the interest on their debt is higher.

Does that make it right??? NO, it doesn't. Those countries with some control over weapons do NOT have as many deaths as they do. They rank first even over many of the countries presently at war!!.

I don't know what your problem is but I was responding to pgs post and it had nothing whatsoever to do with you.

P.S. I forgot about the Boer War for a moment ( still haven't had my wake-up coffee) and, of course, the Americans had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

We had an earlier foray into Africa that is sort of forgotten by most.

Canadian Military Heritage

The ranting and raving was directed at sleepy. I apologize. It is because he spends his time pick, pick, pick, while contributing nothing.

 

[JamesBondo]

James What?? Well it seems to me it is really difficult to get gun deaths, involving children, teenagers, criminals and mental patients if the access to guns are controlled under the law.

Anyway, tightening the laws in Australia has worked while laissez-faire attitude in the US hasn't.

By the way sleepy, Canada has been involved in only 5 wars since confederation. I would say, how a country comes into being has a lot to do with how it proceeds.

Can you please try a little harder to make your posts more understandable? You appear to be quoting DaSleeper, responding to me, and talking about stuff from 2 days ago.

 

[pgs]

What the heck is the first world?? I will tell you this....The US has the highest rate of murder/gun violence in the developed world. It also has the largest number of guns per capita. It also does not do proper background checks and now that the US has guns coming out the wazzu, the guns are being smuggled into any possible market around the world. The weapons industry is probably if not the largest money making one in the US at the present time, it comes pretty darn close. Probably the interest on their debt is higher.

Does that make it right??? NO, it doesn't. Those countries with some control over weapons do NOT have as many deaths as they do. They rank first even over many of the countries presently at war!!.


The ranting and raving was directed at sleepy. I apologize. It is because he spends his time pick, pick, pick, while contributing nothing.

I am still wondering how such a wonderful country like Canada could have 2 separate shootings in Surrey B.C. last night and another in Richmond on Friday . Those bad old Americans .

 

[Colpy]

What the heck is the first world?? I will tell you this....The US has the highest rate of murder/gun violence in the developed world.

Sigh.

No, it doesn't.

Let's recap:

"First world" has a number of different definitions, so I decided to use the UN Human Development Index, and compare the murder rates in the 49 countries listed with Very High Human Development.

That is not only in the developed world, but (according to the UN) the VERY DEVELOPED WORLD, this taken from the UN list of countries with Very High Human Development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
All rates per 100,000 per year, and just for fun I added their rank in the Guns per Capita list in brackets.
United States: 4.7 (1)
Latvia: 4.7 (30)
Estonia: 5.0 (63)
Argentina: 5.5 (60)
Lithuania: 6.7 (157)

Sometimes one is forced to wonder if you can read.


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[petros]

Read yes, accept fact, no.

 

[AnnaG]

All these wingnuts shooting people should be more like hubby. lol He says if he was pissed off enough to want someone dead, he'd more likely take someone apart with his bare hands rather than find a gun and shoot em. But he's really a hardshelled puddytat.

Still referring to the USA, huh? To me, it'd be like trying to describe Peru by comparing it to Malaysia. Freakin weird.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Sigh.

No, it doesn't.

Yes it does. For bluebyrd's "First World," defined as "industrialized countries that have lower levels of gun violence than the United States."