ANd the AGW crowd uses what? Localized weather reports and self made computer models.
BTW how was that cruise through the ice free arctic this summer? Any better than the one in 2008 where everyone got frostbite?
I don't know what "AGW crowd" you're referring to... given how vocal you are on this subject, I would have thought you would know the distinction between climate and weather.
I believe you previously said something about an Arctic ice-free prediction. I do believe I asked for details on the who/what made the predictions you refered/refer to... I don't recall getting any response. I'll ask you again... waiting.
I'm aware of a couple of predictions made by single persons in that regard. I'm not sure how you would feel so emboldened to take a couple of predictions, from single persons of no particular consequence, and run with them... repeatedly run with them... as some reflection on the greater "AGW crowd" (as you say).