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[IdRatherBeSkiing]

that would be worse than not knowing, then everyone would think they did...I get how it's supposed to work but the fact that we no longer use firing squads for public execution is likely a good indicator that it doesn't work well. I understand the army still may execute this way though.

I always thought it was discontinued when the cost of bullets became too great.

 

[JLM]

There are some people (I use the term lightly) who definitely need killing (like the pair who abducted and murdered the little girl in Ontario on her way home from school. But you do it properly with a little more class than perpetrators did it, otherwise you are just bending to their level. A rope around the neck or a bullet to the back of the head works!

 

[Sal]

I always thought it was discontinued when the cost of bullets became too great.

lol... a quick bullet to the brain...don't know Ski....

 

[EagleSmack]

My understanding is that only 1 or 2 rifles have real live ammunition while the rest fire blanks. This way no one knows who fired the killing shot.

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I heard it was the other way around... only one guy had the blank.

But anyone who has fired a weapon with both live ammo and blanks absolutely knows the difference. When we used blanks in war games you can tell you aren't using the real thing.

 

[Nuggler]

Well, there's always the wood chipper.

You saw Fargo eh ? Helluva scene

What misquote?

Believe it's : "All the world's a stage", ..................but why split hares, as Bugs would say.

 

[EagleSmack]

And one debate that I've always jumped into was the argument that Capital Punishment doesn't have any effect on crime.

I do not think that is the way to look at Capital Punishment. Crime and Punishment...Death is a punishment for a crime.

 

[JLM]

And one debate that I've always jumped into was the argument that Capital Punishment doesn't have any effect on crime.

I do not think that is the way to look at Capital Punishment. Crime and Punishment...Death is a punishment for a crime.

Who cares? It has an effect on the perpetrator!

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I don't support the death penalty, but I can't say I feel sorry for this rapist murderer scumbag. They shouldn't have killed him, just kicked him in the seeds for a few weeks.

 

[EagleSmack]

Who cares? It has an effect on the perpetrator!

That is what it is supposed to do and that is what I mean. I prison sentence or death sentence is a means of punishment for a crime committed.

Oft times we got into a debate here.

For example..

"What the heck... the guy is not a threat, why is he doing 5 years in prison?!"

Because he was convicted of a crime and that was the punishment. End of Story.

I always thought it was discontinued when the cost of bullets became too great.

I bet those rounds are cheaper than those drugs.

 

[JLM]

I don't support the death penalty, but I can't say I feel sorry for this rapist murderer scumbag. They shouldn't have killed him, just kicked him in the seeds for a few weeks.

Hell of a lot cheaper than footing the grub bill for the duration! I personally can't see a valid reason for keeping a guy like that around!

 

[QuebecCanadian]

McALESTER, Okla. (AP) — A botched execution that used a new drug combination left an Oklahoma inmate writhing and clenching his teeth on the gurney Tuesday, leading prison officials to halt the proceedings before the inmate's eventual death from a heart attack.

Clayton Lockett, 38, was declared unconscious 10 minutes after the first of the state's new three-drug lethal injection combination was administered. Three minutes later, though, he began breathing heavily, writhing, clenching his teeth and straining to lift his head off the pillow.

The blinds were eventually lowered to prevent those in the viewing gallery from watching what was happening in the death chamber, and the state's top prison official eventually called a halt to the proceedings. Lockett died of a heart attack a short time later, the Department of Corrections said.

"It was a horrible thing to witness. This was totally botched," said Lockett's attorney, David Autry.

The problems with the execution are likely to fuel more debate about the ability of states to administer lethal injections that meet the U.S. Constitution's requirement they be neither cruel nor unusual punishment. That question has drawn renewed attention from defense attorneys and death penalty opponents in recent months, as several states scrambled to find new sources of execution drugs because drugmakers that oppose capital punishment — many based in Europe — have stopped selling to prisons and corrections departments.

Oklahoma inmate dies after execution is botched'

On the other hand, he did die, so you can't say it was a total failure.

Boo frickin' Hoo

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I bet those rounds are cheaper than those drugs.

But more expensive than a rope. And gotta check the floating electricity rates to determine the economics of the chair. Maybe it needs a wind turbine to power it.

 

[EagleSmack]

But more expensive than a rope. And gotta check the floating electricity rates to determine the economics of the chair. Maybe it needs a wind turbine to power it.

A straight edge is always efficient.

 

[JLM]

Confine them to a barb wire fenced pond inhabited by a dozen starving alligators! It would be like killing two birds with one stone in that the alligators get fed and no mess to clean up!

 

[taxslave]

It was a successful execution. He is dead.

As to the drugs, don't they test this stuff on animals first?

They did and now he is dead.

 

[Walter]

Believe it's : "All the world's a stage", ..................but why split hares, as Bugs would say.

What I quoted is accurate.

 

[Praxius]

It's a bizarre alliance of business and do-gooders. They want to make execution more "humane," so they make it more and more complex, with more and more failure points. And zero evidence it's more effective or less painful than hanging.

You know who the first "humane execution" guy was? A French physician.

Named Guillotin.

The first part is true and I agree, however your last comment about the guillotine?

HowStuffWorks "Brain Stays Alive After Decapitation"

On July 17, 1793, a woman named Charlotte Corday was executed by guillotine for the assassination of Jean-Paul Marat, a radical journalist, politician and revolutionary. Marat was well-liked for his ideas and the mob awaiting the guillotine was eager to see Corday pay. After the blade dropped and Corday's head fell, one of the executioner's assistants picked it up and slapped its cheek. According to witnesses, Corday's eyes turned to look at the man and her face changed to an expression of indignation. Following this incident, people executed by guillotine during the Revolution were asked to blink afterward, and witnesses claim that the blinking occurred for up to 30 seconds.

as well as:

Another often-told tale of demonstrated consciousness following beheading dates to 1905. French physician Dr. Gabriel Beaurieux witnessed the beheading of a man named Languille. He wrote that immediately afterward, "the eyelids and lips ... worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about five or six seconds." Dr. Beaurieux called out his name and said that Languille's eyelids "slowly lifted up, without any spasmodic contraction" and that "his pupils focused themselves" [source: Kershaw]. This happened a second time, but the third time Beaurieux spoke, he got no response.

and:

So while it's not entirely impossible for someone to still be conscious after being decapitated, it's not likely. Hillman also goes on to point out that the so-called painless guillotine is likely anything but. He states that "death occurs due to separation of the brain and spinal cord, after transection of the surrounding tissues. This must cause acute and possibly severe pain." This is one of the reasons why the guillotine, and beheading in general, is no longer an accepted method of execution in many countries with capital punishment.

The quickest and most humane way to execute is with a well placed and forced blow to the head on a cinder block with a Maul. Your brain won't be together long enough to register what happened, let alone bleed out long enough to possibly know that you're dying..... you'd be dead the moment your head exploded.

You can even reuse a Maul... very cost effective and you help employ custodians/janitors for the following cleanup process. Though I suppose if you put their head in a burlap sack beforehand, that would help clean up a lot of the mess.

Double Tap with the Maul just to be sure they're dead.... but once should do just fine.

.... Now.... in regards to the OP referencing the guy having a botched execution, does anybody know if this guy was present?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The first part is true and I agree, however your last comment about the guillotine?

Asked and answered. RTFT

 

[Praxius]

I did read the F*cking thread, how about you stop being a d*ck?

As this is a forum of words and no emotions or expressions, one can not tell if your post was meant as sarcasm or being serious.

The following posts relating to the Guillotine were talking about if the blade was dull, etc.

In a perfect world the guillotine was razor sharp and had more than enough weight to quickly and effectively sever a head from the body..... But my response was focusing on more information that what was posted by others in the "F*cking Thread" as you put it with your lazy internet texting crap response.

You didn't really answer anything I was covering, so get off your high horse princess.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I did read the F*cking thread, how about you stop being a d*ck?

As this is a forum of words and no emotions or expressions, one can not tell if your post was meant as sarcasm or being serious.

The following posts relating to the Guillotine were talking about if the blade was dull, etc.

In a perfect world the guillotine was razor sharp and had more than enough weight to quickly and effectively sever a head from the body..... But my response was focusing on more information that what was posted by others in the "F*cking Thread" as you put it with your lazy internet texting crap response.

You didn't really answer anything I was covering, so get off your high horse princess.

Bad maintenance'll do ya every time.