Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits

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The Ukraine will have some extra (recent additions) people to send by that time while Crimea will have painted everything olive green and no stickers.


Not to appear insensitive but if I was there and came in last my new career would be heavy drinking.
You be in old Soviet Union. They have wodka....
 

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Ukraine does not have much choice but to surrender. With so many ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the military supporting the Russians, the military is kaput since they don't know their loyaltries anymore.
 

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Damn right. Question is, will we keep bickering about petty right and left issues or will our politicians be able to work together to de-escalate this. We're not talking iraq or Afghanistan with AK47s here, but one of the world's major nuclear powers. We can't afford conflict, yet we also can't afford to ignore international law either. So we have to intervene, but then we need people who know diplomacy. This deos not look good in the least.

The best diplomacy is a bigger gun. ANd someone willing to pull the trigger....This will be harder to pull off with Obama than it would have been with jr. Since the Russians know Obma is smart enough to think things through while jr. being dumber than a sack of hammers would just pull the trigger and see what the concequences were if the smoke cleared afterward.
 

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Ukraine does not have much choice but to surrender. With so many ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the military supporting the Russians, the military is kaput since they don't know their loyaltries anymore.
Good point, only one small correction needed, Crimea was asking for help, they had surrendered before they made the phonecall.

Yes, yes I have seen a still.
Would a Russian be able to enter Hillbilly country (in Canada or the US) and feel right at home?

The best diplomacy is a bigger gun. ANd someone willing to pull the trigger....This will be harder to pull off with Obama than it would have been with jr. Since the Russians know Obma is smart enough to think things through while jr. being dumber than a sack of hammers would just pull the trigger and see what the concequences were if the smoke cleared afterward.
Chaney was the one calling the shots when that duo was in the spotlight. Course he did shoot a Lawyer in the face .....
 

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Good point, only one small correction needed, Crimea was asking for help, they had surrendered before they made the phonecall.

Yes, yes I have seen a still.
Would a Russian be able to enter Hillbilly country (in Canada or the US) and feel right at home?

Unfortunately Crimea didn't get the help they needed. Instead they got invaded by a fascist dictator instead. All because lefty Europe hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia.
 

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World War One started with an assassination of Duke Ferdinand and the Alliances
kicked in due to hysterical reaction. WWII really had its roots in the west trading
away nation after nation to protect their own butt. In the end the enemy looked to
those who sold out others.
We are like it or not heading in the direction of another war in Europe if we are not
careful. Those who in fact shout naked aggression do so with unclean hands.
It matters not what names we call each other choosing sides, the fact is the governments
of the day have piled up debt and the best way to get out of debt is through war.
People better stop watching entertainment tonight and pay attention to what is happening.
No one should take this lightly

" If my son wants war we shall have war."

The best diplomacy is a bigger gun. ANd someone willing to pull the trigger....This will be harder to pull off with Obama than it would have been with jr. Since the Russians know Obma is smart enough to think things through while jr. being dumber than a sack of hammers would just pull the trigger and see what the concequences were if the smoke cleared afterward.

Obama is never in the room when decisions are made unless he's serving coffee or lapdancin on the bankers.
 

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Unfortunately Crimea didn't get the help they needed. Instead they got invaded by a fascist dictator instead. All because lefty Europe hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia.
I keep forgetting that part, perhaps if it were true I would do better.
 

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Reports of Ukraine ultimatum 'total nonsense' - Russian Defense Ministry


Russia denies reports that it issued an ultimatum to Ukrainian armed forces in Crimea, according to the Interfax news agency which cites an official from Russia's Black Sea Fleet. The official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry described information about the ultimatum as 'total nonsense'.

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I guess it really all depends on Russia whether they want to deescalate this or not. The Ukraine knows it cannot win a shooting war. I always had a bad feeling of letting former Soviet Bloc countries into NATO and I am pretty glad the Ukraine was rejected membership. We've (the US) been hanging around on Russia's back porch for too long.

That's the way of empires Smack they always hang around too long. I,d post a list of where Uncle Sam been hangin round too long but it's too long.

After the war I will become a dentist.
 

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BBC News - Ukraine: UK rules out Russia trade curbs?

The government will not curb trade with Russia or close London's financial centre to Russians as part of any possible package of sanctions against Moscow, according to an official document.
The document, which was photographed as a senior official carried it into a meeting in Downing Street, says that "the UK should not support for now trade sanctions or close London's financial centre to Russians", while it confirms that ministers ARE considering - along with other EU countries - visa restrictions and travel bans on key Russian figures.
It also says that ministers should "discourage any discussion (eg at Nato) of contingency military preparations" and support "contingency EU work on providing Ukraine with alternative gas" and oil supplies "if Russia cuts them off".
 

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Unfortunately Crimea didn't get the help they needed. Instead they got invaded by a fascist dictator instead. All because lefty Europe hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia.

Most in Crimea are Russians who welcomed the Russians with open arms. That's the problem. Now we'd haave ethnic Russian Crimeans turning against their own Ukrainian countrymen.
 

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Ukraine leader threatens Russia with nuclear weapons

:According to translated news sources within the country, Ukraine interim representative threatened Russia with nuclear weapons, if Russia does not remove their troops from within the Ukrainian borders.
Mikhail Golovko said in a live interview that,“Russia can not win in this situation, it is a violation of all international norms and guarantees … If they are violated, we reserve the right to recover a nuclear weapon. Resume nuclear status and will be quite different to communicate, “ he said.

So, it's very apparent that the west has enlisted the help of idiots to swallow Ukraine.

Interesting, Russia claims to be a modern democracy yet when someone else
wants democracy they invade them. The west should open their eyes to those
on this planet who spout off about being democratic. Its a case of democracy
as long as its convenient.
Russian is not a democracy, China is not a democracy, the Arab countries even
those who hold elections are not democracies yet we continue to pretend all is
well. Someday the truth will land on our doorstep and we'll be forced to go to war
like WWII. We are building these people up and someday we will pay the price
the blood of our grand children.

It would be useful if you could point to a functioning textbook democracy.