There will be many people killed on both sides and that point is forgotten while talking about the toys and politics of war. Russia has no claim on Ukraine the money owed will be paid in time. .
Why not sooner than later? $3B in advances on the $15 and pay off the $1.5 in gas bills. How about you start there and then talks can go on and really what is there to even talk about. The West wanted the area under their control and they have it. Crimea still has elections coming up in 30 days, the West just has to get them to vote to reject Moscow's help. How hard could that be with all the NGO's running around the Ukraine these days.
Only people with no brains would justify a war between the two countries and promote bloodshed in a region that will affect us all whether we see it now or not. .
Move yourself to the front of the line.
I love this country Canada and we are not perfect but we have it very well here . .
You are an 'I' and not a 'we' unless you are a .tard'. (which you are without a doubt)
Now take this to heart all those who want this to happen as I do not say this often.....
I'm betting this is a lie.
.with Russia attacking another country it is an act of war and we as the world are one step away from another cold war which at any point in time will not bode well for any of us. .
They didn't attack, they were invited in.
So rather than speaking like it is happening on another planet remember we all live on this little ball in the universe called earth and if we kill all this where the hell will we go.... because if things here on Earth get out of hand we will all go the way of the dinosaur .
You really are one fuked up little pony aren't you?
My concern at this stage is not a cold war, but a hot war. Remember, Russia is a nuclear power, and if the US got involved, suddenly we either have a proxy war between two nuclear powers or, worse yet, direct conflict between them. Sure they'd likely both restrain from nuclear attack, but can we guarantee that the one losing will continue to restrain itself?
probably best to try to reduce tensions now.
Like NATO even has a choice. Instead of bitching about Russia and Crimea they better be looking for way to win at the voting booths in a few months time. The 'rebels' already rejected some of the US stooges so it isn't a done deal for the US at the moment.
Why does everyone believe that the US should be involved or that that level of assistance required is that massive?
Like the covert war they always start with, Crimea might turn in every agitator that pops up and how embarrassing would it be for NATO's methods to be exposed? They already just got showed to the world that they can't respond to events as they unfold and money issues are more important than safety of the people. Not a big surprise.
Cause most of europe is too left to stand up to russia.
In this case it seems to be 'all of Europe' can't stand up to Russia.
Are they? Why would it take all of Europe?
You see Russia being challenged at the moment? Didn't think so.
It might be wise for the US to not get involved.
Even without intervention, the Ukrainians themselves could give Russia a run for tis money.
They are already involved to the tune of $5B in seed money for the agitators.
Really, it seems they can't even come up with a budget that works.
Of course I'm not denying that Russia's military is far more powerful than Ukrain's, but it's jsut a reality, and even Sun Tsu's the Art of War confirms this, that even a weak army will fight far more fiercely when it has no other choice. .
Iraq and Afghanistan would seem to be two recent examples. The citizens of Crimea wanted Russian troops on the ground, that is why there is no resistance now and why they never will be any. Spin it anyway you want, that fact isn't going to change.
The US lost 'casue Americans could always go home but the vietnamese had nowhere else to go if they lost. Same with Iraq and Afghanistan. .
The the US should go home, like about 10 years ago.
Wer did kind of win there but consider the investment we had to put into it. .
Is that the same as 'we lost'?
Same here between Russia and Ukraine. the Russians can pack up and leave, the Ukrainians have no where else to go so they'll just fight.
The ones in Crimea aren't fighting, you keep ignoring that point so you are quite stupid, yes?