Congratulations, Rob Ford!

[Cannuck]

You can see quite clearly that this situation is different from whatever you did because our city council has not sat or voted on anything since the start of the emergency.

Lol...no it's exactly the same. The point of an emergency response plan is that politicians don't have to meet and vote on things. Hint, you don't have to officially declare a disaster or state of emergency to implement the plan nor do you have to implement the entire plan.

The only thing that really hinged on a decision by elected officials in Toronto was if it was declared and emergency or not, and that power rests with the mayor.

Nope

He was comparing a village that you had a role in to a larger city of 5.5 million. There is a difference.

Not as much as you would think. Have you ever done one?

 

[Goober]

I don't think he is an idiot. I think he is bright, has some wonderful ideas and has done some great things. Problem is, he was hanging with unsavory people long before he ran for mayor. If you know his mother at all she is one tough b itch, hard as nails woman.

The guy has some heavy duty problems and he needs to get himself under control and deal with them. He does not appear capable of that and continues to run amok.

It would appear people can not work with him. That is not a leader.

I feel sorry for his children- Kids can be heartless when they tease or bully one another.
And the rest of his close family are no more than enablers of his addictions.

 

[Walter]

The only thing that really hinged on a decision by elected officials in Toronto was if it was declared and emergency or not, and that power rests with the mayor.

Wrong.


Wynne could have declared ice emergency | Editorial | Opinion | Toronto Sun

 

[Sal]

I feel sorry for his children- Kids can be heartless when they tease or bully one another.
And the rest of his close family are no more than enablers of his addictions.

yeah I did too...now I just figure, it's their dad, they had best learn how to cope as this isn't ending anytime soon, I can't figure out his wife either...she appeared in public looking a like a whipped hound...most times when wives appear beside their husband after he has pulled some boner move and got caught, they stand there with their shoulders back and head held high, smile planted on their face, ya know it's fake but it shows a level of solidarity...she just couldn't do it... that showed a whole new level of problems on a personal level...

it's a fubar

it's indefensible on so many levels that ...meh, what can be said at this point

 

[Christianna]

What I don't get is why some people are so loyal to Ford, the man is such an embarrassment, not just to Canada but we have become the laughing stock in the US as well. Its strange that the very people who are so loyal would have a cow if it were any other party's politician. They would then be terribly embarrassed if someone who was a Liberal or an NDP mayor.

 

[Goober]

What I don't get is why some people are so loyal to Ford, the man is such an embarrassment, not just to Canada but we have become the laughing stock in the US as well. Its strange that the very people who are so loyal would have a cow if it were any other party's politician. They would then be terribly embarrassed if someone who was a Liberal or an NDP mayor.

Look to his predecessor that racked up taxes, benefits and costs for the City. He was NDP and looked after his union supporters, paid for by the TO taxpayer.
Then look to the Libs - Under them- a Billion for cancelling the gas plants- electricity costs going thru the roof.
If I was picking between those 3 - I would vote for Ford.

 

[Christianna]

So you don't mind the embarrassment? To each his own . I did believe him when he said he had enough to eat at home, no other woman would want to be the meal. I couldn't in fact believe he said that and I imagine his wife must have wanted to disappear..

 

[Goober]

So you don't mind the embarrassment? To each his own . I did believe him when he said he had enough to eat at home, no other woman would want to be the meal. I couldn't in fact believe he said that and I imagine his wife must have wanted to disappear..

Far worse out there that you do not hear of- like the 2 Councillors getting reduced rents in condos, from a company that does business with the City- Nope nothing wrong there.
He has not misused public funds- he lowered taxes- lowered costs- privatized part of garbage collection. Unions in TO were running the city under his predecessor, fed quite well by the taxpayer.
Antics, not a problem that I cannot deal with.

 

[Walter]

What I don't get is why some people are so loyal to Ford, the man is such an embarrassment, not just to Canada but we have become the laughing stock in the US as well. Its strange that the very people who are so loyal would have a cow if it were any other party's politician. They would then be terribly embarrassed if someone who was a Liberal or an NDP mayor.

Cretin was an embarrassment as a PM.

 

[Christianna]

What his predecessor sounds like was pretty crooked. However maybe someone else would be decent and not a druggie and drunk and even honest. I realize for Fords loyalists they don't want to admit that possibility. I have read that honesty is also somewhat of a problem with Ford, so I guess you just choose your poison.

 

[Walter]

So you don't mind the embarrassment? To each his own . I did believe him when he said he had enough to eat at home, no other woman would want to be the meal. I couldn't in fact believe he said that and I imagine his wife must have wanted to disappear..

Money is a powerful attraction.

 

[Goober]

What his predecessor like sounds pretty crooked. However maybe someone else would be decent and not a druggie and drunk and even honest. I realize for Fords loyalists they don't want to admit that possibility. I have read that honesty is also somewhat of a problem with Ford, so I guess you just choose your poison.

I have no loyalty to Ford-I do see that other Politicians who have screwed up and 1 in particular going to court for fraud being left alone by the Press- I do see that the left wing Press members- not all are Left wing- were after Ford from day 1- Why -because he is a buffoon that they thought would never get elected- he is short, fat, and not well spoken - so they had a target- and that is exactly what they did- went after him like a dog on a bone- well who would you pick.
Me- Ford hands down-

 

[Spade]

Goober, you seem intent on painting lablour and its representatives as the enemy; why.
Weren't the trains running on time?

 

[Goober]

Goober, you seem intent on painting lablour and its representatives as the enemy; why.
Weren't the trains running on time?

They are not the enemy- they were overpaid, benefits beyond belief - That I have an issue with.
Cost were thru the roof- look to TO school Boards and the costs for changing a door knob- or installing a light switch. Crooked beyond belief.

 

[taxslave]

So you don't mind the embarrassment? To each his own . I did believe him when he said he had enough to eat at home, no other woman would want to be the meal. I couldn't in fact believe he said that and I imagine his wife must have wanted to disappear..

Well sitting out here in BC where we have had more than our share of colourful politicians I find it highly amusing to watch the liberal elite ruling class get their knickers in a knot because Ford has done really well for Toronto so they can only attack his personal life. Sometimes I wonder if Ford isn't baiting them just for ****z and giggles.

 

[BornRuff]

Lol...no it's exactly the same. The point of an emergency response plan is that politicians don't have to meet and vote on things. Hint, you don't have to officially declare a disaster or state of emergency to implement the plan nor do you have to implement the entire plan.

You explicitly said that it required a vote of the majority of city council to activate it in the case of an emergency, so yes, Toronto is different.

"I developed a plan and all that was required was a majority of council to activate it in the event of an emergency."

Nope

That is exactly what the law is in Toronto. We don't need any vote from council to react. The only thing that we need from elected officials is to determine if it is a state of an emergency or not. Look it up if you want.

Not as much as you would think. Have you ever done one?

Actually, Toronto is very different than whatever village it is that you worked for. There is no single plan for emergencies.

 

[Sal]

Well sitting out here in BC where we have had more than our share of colourful politicians I find it highly amusing to watch the liberal elite ruling class get their knickers in a knot because Ford has done really well for Toronto so they can only attack his personal life. Sometimes I wonder if Ford isn't baiting them just for ****z and giggles.

Ford is fuked up beyond all comprehension...and I don't mean in a funny haha kind of way...if he doesn't not get help he will be dead or hospitalized against his will. This isn't just the left attacking him for s hits and giggles...It is not just an attack on his personal life...that is minimizing it.

 

[Spade]

They are not the enemy- they were overpaid, benefits beyond belief - That I have an issue with.
Cost were thru the roof- look to TO school Boards and the costs for changing a door knob- or installing a light switch. Crooked beyond belief.

Nonsense, Goober. I have worked both in the public and private sectors. Costs are often markedly less in the public sector because profits are not factored into the equation. To see labour and its unions as the enemy, and the capitalist as the working man's saviour is a tad naive, and plays into hands of the manipulative.

 

[Goober]

Nonsense, Goober. I have worked both in the public and private sectors. Costs are often markedly less in the public sector because profits are not factored into the equation. To see labour and its unions as the enemy, and the capitalist as the working man's saviour is a tad naive, and plays into hands of the manipulative.

Do the checks on Google regarding my points - see what you find.

 

[Cannuck]

Nonsense, Goober. I have worked both in the public and private sectors. Costs are often markedly less in the public sector because profits are not factored into the equation. To see labour and its unions as the enemy, and the capitalist as the working man's saviour is a tad naive, and plays into hands of the manipulative.

I used to work in the private sector and took a pay cut when I moved to the public sector. I gave up income for a better lifestyle and time with my kids. I get a kick out of people that think the public sector is a gravy train.