USSR is the biggest winner of WW2
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I found something difference in our thoughts. You western people think racism more threat than communism. I am not a supporter for racism, just consider communism is more evil. So I support Hitler to fight Stalin. Maybe difference growing experience make different thoughts.
I saw the asia people welcomed Japan troops to conquer their barbaric GOVT. In 1901, the people of Beijing welcome the allies to beat their empire because the western people are far more civilized people.
In my mind, if a racism people is civilized, then I dont believe he is evil.
We're not talking about racism, we're talking about genocide.
And you are indeed a supporter of racism. It's implicit in your desire to have the West "civilise" people who are "primitive."
In my view, the west culture indeed is more civilized tham the primitive culture. I will choose the western life style than other style. You see, all the stuff, I mean ALL in our daylife came from western, TV cars telephone computer paper gun drugs electic plane, all of them. The west are now dominating the world's routine whether we liked it. Reason and Logic are the gifts from the west to the whole world.
What does the matter a language disappeared in the world? It's doesnt matter if the language has no reason and logic in it if the language disappeared.
If you came to China in 1901,you will see chinese lived like animals.No polices, No toilet. The first police station and the first toilet in Chinese history was created by Japan troops. If you saw how the Chinese officer treated the prisoner, you will think the NAZI is angle. If you want to see the pic of killing prisoner in China in 1900, you can teach me how to post pic here. I will show yor.
You'll have to. Britain's track record of trying to make little second-rate Englishmen out of what local citizenry they didn't kill off in their effort to wring profit for the Crown speaks otherwise. Your speculations are just that.
OK, so your definition of civilisation is consumer goods. So, what's the acme of human civilisation? WalMart?
Philosophy,Roman Law ,Science,Logos, Nous. The western people developed a whole system of exploring the world to the people of the world.
Concentration of captured labour/hostages has been a feature of war since the stone age. So maybe you're right since the British are so recently removed from that period. And determined to return to those good old days, with the help of their corrupt political class and according to a recent study, their woefully ignorant citizens
The USSR has already been punished to death hasn't it?
It's better to have a world of civilised, Anglophied people drinking tea and playing cricket and rugby than a world of barbarian savages chucking spears about and eating each other.
You mean like Nietsche, who developed the philosophical basis for the Nazis? Or Marx, who as a German, was a Westerner?
Including Roman slavery and limitation of citizenship?
You really believe that "science" is all Western, don't you? The Chinese had transoceanic ships before the West, Indians invented a new species 3000 years before Gregor Mendel. How about Arabic numbers? Try calculating complex engineering formulae with Roman numerals.
Because he presents an interesting, perfectly clear position. He claims that Western society, presumably as developed (from non-Western origins) through the Greeks, Romans, HRE, to modern Europe, is the source of all light and right, and that the warfare, genocide, slavery, and materialism of the Western tradition are either wholly good, or at least not as bad as other systems. He also claims that only the West has produced anything of value, a view I'm currently in the process of exploding.
It's nice to argue from first principles. Usually when I try to do that, I get caught up in people's perceptions that the first principles as iterated in current form in Canada, the US, Europe, or what-have-you, are the same thing as the first principles themselves. I'm hoping we can get to a first-principles argument.
For an example of past disappointments in this area, see my thread on "What does society owe individuals?" Rather than a discussion of first principles, it rapidly bogged down into a bunch of people who didn't understand the question bitching about modern Canadian and American welfare.
By the way, Colpy, I'd love to engage you on the right to keep and bear arms from first principles. I think it would be very productive.
Nice to meet you. 1. As you said,Western developed Rousseau -》Nietsche-》 Marx。The original source of lefty came from Rousseau. He invent a theory implied that society justice is above on natural justice. Marx brought this theory to a evil level and made the theory real. The lefty was the wrong consequence of western cultule. But the bright and good consequences of western are more than the bad. and the western have the ability to correct although have no ability to get rid of the lefty thought copletely.
2. You should compare western culture with other culture in same ages. slavery are common in old China, Chinese empire abolished immolated slaves until 1673 in Qing dynasty which is the lastest dynasty in China. and China had never citizenship until now. Do you know what is immolated slave? A used servent of Empire,mostly girls. When the old empire died, the new empire which is his son killed the servents of the old empire and buried them with the old empire.Why? Because they believed the servents can serve the old empire under the ground.
3. The Chinese workers had no skills to bulid ships with keel to beam the shipbody. And the Chinese empire like huge ships . So a weird ships appears. A huge ships containing hundred people without keels . A small storming will destoried the Chinese big ships. So they cant be far from the land, if the sailor cannt see the shore. So the Chinese cant accross the ocean, what they did is traveling alone the shore.
I think the details of history are most important thing. The hollow concepts are uselessness. The lefty lived in the hollow concepts, covered by the unmeaningful words.
Hello chineseroman, nice to meet you, interesting discussion. The people who own and operate the planet are cosmopolitans and because they have no allegiance to any culture except their own they win every engagement. The culture of the west long ago lost it's organic roots and for the last century has been nurtured in a completely synthetic medium. So today to argue the merits of one synthetic system over the others is simply dancing to the masters tune. They love to watch us dance. Slavery is more prevalent today than at any time in history.