USSR is the biggest winner of WW2

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Hello chineseroman, nice to meet you, interesting discussion. The people who own and operate the planet are cosmopolitans and because they have no allegiance to any culture except their own they win every engagement. The culture of the west long ago lost it's organic roots and for the last century has been nurtured in a completely synthetic medium. So today to argue the merits of one synthetic system over the others is simply dancing to the masters tune. They love to watch us dance. Slavery is more prevalent today than at any time in history.
Hello darkbeaver.Nice to meet you. I am agreed with you. Holy Roman Empire was broken by titillating nationism because kings or queens want owe the nation alone. The nationism also caused WW1 WW2. How regrettable it is.

Hello chineseroman, nice to meet you, interesting discussion. The people who own and operate the planet are cosmopolitans and because they have no allegiance to any culture except their own they win every engagement. The culture of the west long ago lost it's organic roots and for the last century has been nurtured in a completely synthetic medium. So today to argue the merits of one synthetic system over the others is simply dancing to the masters tune. They love to watch us dance. Slavery is more prevalent today than at any time in history.
How regretful the western culture has been nurtured by synthetic medium. How greatful Aristotele was. He is the root of the whole western civilization. He is fortuitous in the planet. I mean the civilization of western is not common in the world. It is a gift by God.
 

Blackleaf

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Actually the Nazis got the concentration camp idea from the Brits. They were the first to use them and that term.

It's amazing some of the silly things that people, who obviously haven't done their research, believe. I still find it amazing, and I always will.

Better for who?


For everybody.

The white people drinking the tea and playing polo. Not so much for thenatives that serve the tea and muck out the stalls.

If you go to countries like India and Pakistan today, you will see that polo - thanks to the British Empire (another thing the people in that part of the world are grateful to the Empire for) - is quite popular. And it's not mainly white people playing it.

Polo is a perfect example of the British civilising their conquered races. There were times in the past when the people in what is now India and Pakistan were playing a form of polo using the severed heads of enemies. The British, who created the modern verison of polo in India, then told the Indians how to play the game using a ball rather than a head. That's what you call civilising. Things like playing polo with a severed head are frowned upon on the playing fields of Eton.
 

Machjo

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The USSR didn't constitute half of the world's land area. It constituted a sixth of the world's land area and was around the same size as the whole of North America, which consists of Greenland, Canada, USA, Mexico, Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, the Caribbean nations and some European countries' overseas territories, including the British Overseas Territories of Bermuda, Anguilla, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Montserrat and Turks and Caicos Islands. Even today, Russia is twice the size of Canada.

But even the Soviet Union was puny in size, and in population, compared to the British Empire. Whereas the USSR constituted a sixth of the world's landmass and had a peak population of 293 million, the British Empire, at its height in the 1920s, constituted a QUARTER of the world's landmass. At a peak size of 13,012,000 sq mi, the British Empire was 1.5 times bigger than the USSR and had a peak population of 460 million, which was a fifth of the world's population at the time.

Compared to the British Empire, the USSR was small fry.

Yeah, but with your taxes having to support imprisoned Indian salt-marchers on that landmass made it more of an economic burden, no?
 

Blackleaf

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You won't here me brag about how we managed to rip off indigenous land.

I hope I don't. You should be deeply ashamed.

On the backs of the Indians. You must be proud.

Who else would it be on the backs of? It was in India. Indians deserve to be taxed just like the yanks did and just like everyone else does.
 

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I hope I don't. You should be deeply ashamed.



Who else would it be on the backs of? It was in India. Indians deserve to be taxed just like the yanks did and just like everyone else does.

Are you for real? I'm starting to wonder if you're some kind of anti-British troll?
 

Blackleaf

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Boer War. Problem with knowing your own history I see, well we all see that. Well we can help you out.
And learn to stop screwing up the quotes.

Is that the war in which the British supposedly invented concentration camps and even the term "concentration camp"?
 

Blackleaf

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Did I say that? Did I ask that?
Care to answer what I asked?

You said that the British used concentration camps in the Boer War and that "tens of thousands" were killed in them.

Could you give me a more precise figure? Preferably not one from the BBC or the The Guardian.

Can you also tell me where the term "concentration camp" comes from. Because I don't believe it was the British. I believe it sprang from the camps that the Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Filipinos in during the American-Philippine war (a far greater number than were killed by the British during the Second Boer War).

The conflict arose from the struggle of the First Philippine Republic to secure independence from the United States following the latter's acquisition of the Philippines from Spain following the Spanish–American War. Opposition in the United States to occupation of the Philippines inspired the founding of the Anti-Imperialist League on June 15, 1898.

The United States fighting a war of imperialism against another country because that country wanted independence from the United States? Ahhh, the irony.

Concentration camps

Filipino villagers were forced into concentration camps called reconcentrados (from which comes the term "concentration camp") which were surrounded by free-fire zones, or in other words “dead zones.” Furthermore, these camps were overcrowded and filled with disease, causing the death rate to be extremely high. Conditions in these “reconcentrados” are generally acknowledged to have been inhumane. Between January and April 1902, 8,350 prisoners of approximately 298,000 died. Some camps incurred death rates as high as 20 percent. "One camp was two miles by one mile (3.2 by 1.6 km) in area and 'home' to some 8,000 Filipinos. Men were rounded up for questioning, tortured, and summarily executed."



American soldiers standing over the bodies of some of the many Filipinos who perished in the “reconcentrados” (concentration camps) during their fight for independence from the US

In Batangas Province, where General Franklin Bell was responsible for setting up a concentration camp, a correspondent described the operation as “relentless.” General Bell ordered that by December 25, 1901, the entire population of both Batangas Province and Laguna Province had to gather into small areas within the “poblacion” of their respective towns. Barrio families had to bring everything they could carry because anything left behind—including houses, gardens, carts, poultry and animals—was to be burned by the U.S. Army. Anyone found outside the concentration camps was shot. General Bell insisted that he had built these camps to "protect friendly natives from the insurgents, assure them an adequate food supply" while teaching them "proper sanitary standards." The commandant of one of the camps referred to them as the "suburbs of Hell."[
 
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concentration camp (n.)
1901, "compound for noncombatants in a war zone" (see concentration); a controversial idea from the second Boer War (1899-1902), and the term emerged with a bad odor. In reference to prisons for dissidents and minorities in Nazi Germany from 1934, in Soviet Russia from 1935