WW2 – Causes?

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Hitler was an ultra right wing person, with ultra right wing ideas
National Socialism was right not left. Making deals with Britain
was easy the government was in sympathy to much of Hitlers
beliefs even Edward the once king was a friend.
Hitler had two objectives to "Turn Back the Clock" and a "New
World Order" his words exactly.
Britain was not cowardly they were in sympathy until Churchill
came along, America did what it did in WWI they sat on the
sidelines making money until it was time to take a stand. Everyone
else was there in 1914 for WWI America came in around 1917.
Same for WWII they waited a couple of years.
The cause of WWII? Greed and getting out of a depression caused
by the world powers the same cause as every other war.

By the world powers eh? You just can't say "central bankers" can you?
 

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Hitler was an ultra right wing person, with ultra right wing ideas
National Socialism was right not left. Making deals with Britain
was easy the government was in sympathy to much of Hitlers
beliefs even Edward the once king was a friend.
Hitler had two objectives to "Turn Back the Clock" and a "New
World Order" his words exactly.
Britain was not cowardly they were in sympathy until Churchill
came along, America did what it did in WWI they sat on the
sidelines making money until it was time to take a stand. Everyone
else was there in 1914 for WWI America came in around 1917.
Same for WWII they waited a couple of years.
The cause of WWII? Greed and getting out of a depression caused
by the world powers the same cause as every other war.

U.S. is damned if they do and damned if they don't, until after WW 2 they were criticised for holding back and since W.W.2 they've been criticised for jumping in where they have no business. -:)
 

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U.S. is damned if they do and damned if they don't, until after WW 2 they were criticised for holding back and since W.W.2 they've been criticised for jumping in where they have no business. -:)

Isn't that the truth!

We used to have this Greek fellow in here... I forgot his name... but just another hater. Then Greece started having a huge amount of forest fires. And what does he say...

"The US should be over here helping us put these fire out!"

I wish I could find that thread.
 

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One of the great sporting and political myths is that Adolf Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens during the 1936 Berlin Olympics. He didn't. It was actually Franklin D. Roosevelt who snubbed him.

Seeing as you do not know I will splain it fer ya.
Got me reel good scholin down east ya no.


RAF - The Battle of Britain

They left the Radars and airfields alone. Time to rebuild.
Although day and night raids had been mounted against various British towns and cities throughout the campaign, London had been left alone on Hitler’s express orders. However, on the night of 24/25 August, a lost bomber formation had dropped bombs on the capital by mistake. Churchill reacted and the following night, in retaliation, Bomber Command aircraft were sent to attack Berlin.

Hitler was incensed, and lifted his prohibition on the bombing of London. This also suited the Luftwaffe. Their intelligence was reporting that Fighter Command had only 150-300 aircraft left, and they were hoping that an attack on the capital would draw out the last few fighters to be destroyed. This was just one of many intelligence blunders that the Luftwaffe would make during the Battle. In fact, although 11 Group was on the edge of exhaustion, the RAF as a whole had more than a thousand fighters available across the country.

On 7 September, 1940, the third phase of the Battle opened as the Luftwaffe began what would become a nine-month long campaign against London. The mass daylight raids that afternoon caused widespread damage, and continued through the night. On the other hand, they also took the pressure off Fighter Command, and allowed them vital time to rebuild their strength. It also made it easier to bring the squadrons to the north of London to bear against the German attacks.
 

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Exactly right Goober.

Hitlers shift from attacking the RAF to attacking London was how the Allies won the Battle of Britain.
 

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After the Depression, work was work. It kick started the US economy enough and gave time enough to build a big force by supplying the Aliies.
 

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How about the Bush family, they were neck deep in banking Hitler?
No Prescot Bush was the managing director of a trust company own by Thyssen.

And that's all.

The US closed it, and held it and it's holding until the close of the war.

A little intel on Thyssen... He was a member of the Nazi Party until the final solution came to his attention. He quit the Nazi Party and quickly found himself penny less and in jail. With radical Nazi members of his family taking over his holdings.
 

darkbeaver

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No Prescot Bush was the managing director of a trust company own by Thyssen.

And that's all.

The US closed it, and held it and it's holding until the close of the war.

A little intel on Thyssen... He was a member of the Nazi Party until the final solution came to his attention. He quit the Nazi Party and quickly found himself penny less and in jail. With radical Nazi members of his family taking over his holdings.

What was this "final solution"? HerrBear

Bankers of Thyssens stature don't just quit.
 

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What critical error did the Germans make during the Battle of Britain?

They lost.

Wow... revisionism is rooted in you like bad teeth is rooted in the mouth of the briddish!

I agree. I have been involved in historical revisionism.

I changed a myth (that Hitler snubbed Owens during the 1936 Berlin Olympics) to a fact (that Hitler didn't snub Owens, Roosevelt did).
 

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I agree. I have been involved in historical revisionism.

I changed a myth (that Hitler snubbed Owens during the 1936 Berlin Olympics) to a fact (that Hitler didn't snub Owens, Roosevelt did).

Hitler did snub Owens... I have no idea what FDR did. He may very well have... but that does not change the fact that Hitler did as well.
 

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Hitler did snub Owens... I have no idea what FDR did. He may very well have... but that does not change the fact that Hitler did as well.
Actually, Hitler didn't. Hitler personally congratulated all the German winners on the first day. Then the IOC said he had to congratulate all the winners or none of them. He chose none. So he "snubbed" Owens only to the extent he "snubbed" all the winners after the first day.
 

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No, he didn't. That's a myth.
Ya all here so we can learn ya i think. Yep- We gotta learn ya.

The Nazi Olympics (August 1936) | Jewish Virtual Library

The Baltimore Afro-American (August 8, 1936) and other newspapers spread the story that Hitler refused to shake Jesse Owens's hand or congratulate other Black medalists. In fact, during the very first day of Olympic competition, when Owens did not compete, Olympic protocol officers implored Hitler to receive either all the medal winners or none, and the Fuhrer chose the latter. Whether he did this to avoid shaking hands with “non-Aryans” is unclear. Privately, Minister of Propaganda Goebbels called the victories by Blacks “a disgrace.” Ignoring censors' orders to avoid offending foreign guests with racist commentaries, the radical Nazi newspaper Der Angriff (The Attack) wrote on August 6: “If the American team had not brought along Black auxiliaries . . . one would have regarded the Yankees as the biggest disappointment of the Games.”