Conservatives accuse Justin Trudeau of profiting from not-for-profits

[Colpy]

and the client can say no to his rate and not hire him. Simple. What does his bank account have to do with anything?

How about this. Trudeau has made public his incomes, Has Coren? For all I know we have a prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Coren is not a representative of the people.

Trudeau is a brain-dead pretty-boy, with a sense of entitlement.

It ain't like he needs the money.

He is a profiteer, as well.

He has nothing but an infamous name going for him.

 

[Machjo]

No, absolutely not.

Nor are his speaking tours "unethical", in the official sense, as they were cleared by the Ethics Commissioner.

But he had one of the worst attendance records in the House........too busy flying around the country mouthing platitudes and arousing cougars.

I would expect a little more from my MP.....just to start with.

It'll be interesting to see how his local constituents vote next election.

 

[Jonny_C]

It'll be interesting to see how his local constituents vote next election.

Oh they'll vote him in, regardless of problems. A party leader usually doesn't have any trouble.

 

[Sal]

charity...seriously guys the CEO's and COO's make damn good money, it is their JOB is to crack the whip and bring in funds... $20,ooo is NOthing...NOthing quit focusing on 'charity' it is a misnomer at best...it is a fu cking business just like everything else...go work for one for a while and the scales will fall from your eyes...

give this a pass it is a diversion at best

 

[JLM]

Conservatives, Liberals, all same thing, one time it's one, next time it's the other. They are all tarred with the same brush............bunch of bullsh*tters! -

But he dropped the ball by charging charities- yes I am well aware it is legal- i am aware the Ethics Commissioner approved it.
The change he offers is what?
He has not changed his opinion on the Lib Senator. He will use the it is before the courts line. Proper thing as it is.
But he again dropped the ball earlier on this.
If the Senator had been found to have falsified expenses then he should have been given the boot from Caucas. He should have made that point crystal clear.

Go over the newscasts on the Lib Senator and then watch the House Leader in the Senate scramble for an answer as Justin made a snap decision and no one else was informed except by the reporters.
Is that how he plans to run the country.
I posted that link earlier in the thread.

Does someone "approving" something for a politician, make it any more ethical? -

 

[Zipperfish]

Well, looks like this is backfiring on the Conservatives.


CTV News: Harper avoids questions about PMO spreading Trudeau charity story

Globe and Mail: Harper won't reveal if PMO had role in spreading Trudeau charity story

Vancouver Sun: Stephen Harper dodges question on why his office spearheaded attacks on Justin Trudeau

Toronto Star: PM’s office sends financial details of Trudeau speech to newspaper

Macleans: How did the PMO get involved in the matter of Justin Trudeau and the Grace Foundation?

National Post: Harper mum on PMO’s role in spreading Trudeau charity fee documents to media

 

[JLM]

Here they are pointing at Trudeau who has done nothing wrong solely because they want
to deflect attention from at least one person who is under investigation by the RCMP for
perhaps doing something seriously wrong on an on going basis. The glass house people
are certainly stooping low to find rocks to throw.
Yes its optics and I would hope the other parties use the optics we know about in the next
election especially if the wrong doing of a criminal nature is discovered.
As for the Duffy and his confusing paper work give me a break. No its not confusing only
if you are working at getting around the meaning of the law. Whallen is something else
again I didn't pay enough attention, ya right. These people worked in a field where paying
attention to detail was part of their life. They got caught, and the Conservatives should now
be silent.
Trudeau, I have little to like in the Liberal Leader but in this case he is a victim of optics,
With the Conservative Senators we were victims of greed and dishonesty and looking at it
that way the optics are and should be very different.

Best not to take sides in a deal like this, next week it will be another party or politician! -

 

[Durry]

It's no big deal who identifies the scum bag, it's just important that the public gets to see a scum bag exposed!!

 

[Goober]

It's no big deal who identifies the scum bag, it's just important that the public gets to see a scum bag exposed!!

You partisanship is showing. Must have been a love in for you with Mulmoney during his time as PM.

 

[captain morgan]

nope, and neither does Trudeau. That is why he made public his incomes, unlike his opposition.

More stupidity on baby-t's part to make his income and net worth known.... Now that the flood gates are opened with 'making right' and possibly refunding the cash to the charity, I wonder how many others will come-a-knockin' at his door seeking the same.

I don't mind telling ya; I'd laugh my balls off if JT was brow-beaten into returning 250 large

Well, looks like this is backfiring on the Conservatives.

.. Yet, it's Trudeau that's squarely in the epicentre of this PR disaster.

 

[Colpy]

Well, looks like this is backfiring on the Conservatives.


CTV News: Harper avoids questions about PMO spreading Trudeau charity story

Globe and Mail: Harper won't reveal if PMO had role in spreading Trudeau charity story

Vancouver Sun: Stephen Harper dodges question on why his office spearheaded attacks on Justin Trudeau

Toronto Star: PM’s office sends financial details of Trudeau speech to newspaper

Macleans: How did the PMO get involved in the matter of Justin Trudeau and the Grace Foundation?

National Post: Harper mum on PMO’s role in spreading Trudeau charity fee documents to media

Who cares???

The MSM leaping to Justin's defense....lol.

Politics is such a disgracefully dirty business...........that is very true.

 

[Zipperfish]

Who cares???

The MSM leaping to Justin's defense....lol.

Politics is such a disgracefully dirty business...........that is very true.

I don't know, the National Post and Macleans aren't all that liberal, unless you're off to the far right of the political spectrum.

I think if you're ging to out Trudeau for moonlighting on his taxpayer-funded MP salary then you should do it in such a way that you don't have taxpayer-funded staff at the PMO moonlighting as partisan apparatchiks. That's why this is backfiring. As Angus fro the NDP stated--doesn't the PMO have better things to do than run black ops against Trudeau?

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Well, looks like this is backfiring on the Conservatives.


CTV News: Harper avoids questions about PMO spreading Trudeau charity story

Globe and Mail: Harper won't reveal if PMO had role in spreading Trudeau charity story

Vancouver Sun: Stephen Harper dodges question on why his office spearheaded attacks on Justin Trudeau

Toronto Star: PM’s office sends financial details of Trudeau speech to newspaper

Macleans: How did the PMO get involved in the matter of Justin Trudeau and the Grace Foundation?

National Post: Harper mum on PMO’s role in spreading Trudeau charity fee documents to media

Harper is becoming the boy who cried wolf one too many times.

I also think Harper counted on a certain amount of secrecy to get away with attacks of this kind in the past, but after recent events it's very hard to run a stealth PMO.

 

[damngrumpy]

Actually for some of these things like speeches and sminars twenty thousand is a good deal
I remember when I was in serious sales years ago some charged a lot more than that. Like
Gerry says, the client can say no, too rich for my blood and find someone else. As for the
ethics commissioner he is the diffinitive compliance officer. And yes his word makes it ethical
that is his job. And yes a politician can charge for speaking engagement of a special nature
and still be an MP as long as it is not the business of his riding.
As for being rich and all the other stuff like charging expenses that is standard contract fair.
When I operated night clubs back in the seventies we brought in entertainment, paid for the
gig and the expenses. Nothing different about that. When I had a mobile DJ service we charged
for the gig and if away from home expenses.
the problem is the Conservatives who have serious issues of their own, some could be bordering
or criminal, are looking to deflect some heat. Mulcair for example was said to be arrogant for not
stopping at a security checkpoint. What he did was stupid I agree with that. Then consider this.
We have security guards stopping the same politicians from all parties everyday. We are paying
for that useless exercise. I am surprised the security guards don't know these people already and
should be stopping people they don't know.
Just Trudeau,, Mulcar and the Harper crowd have all rubbed me the wrong way at one point or another
over issues. This one they are trying to tag on Justin Trudeau is without foundation and just nasty
activity to hide a much more egregious set of cases that we should be concerned about.
Trudeau charged twenty thousand dollars legally to a charity. The Conservative Senators Stole
thousands of dollars from you and I, and then lied to cover their tracks. Which one should we be up
in arms about?

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

I think it's appropriate for Harper to state his personal opinions on Justin Trudeau accepting money speaking for charities.

Harper won't reveal if PMO had role in spreading Trudeau charity story - The Globe and Mail

“As someone who is paid by the public, I get good remuneration from the taxpayers of Canada as a public servant. I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to then take money from charity. I give money to charity, I don’t take money from charity. So that’s my view on what’s appropriate and not appropriate under those circumstances,” Mr. Harper said, declining to address his office’s role.

What isn't appropriate is Harper using significant government resources as a powerful club to attack a political opponent.

The Barrie Advance published a story Monday evening saying the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) sent unsolicited information about a money-losing speech Mr. Trudeau gave to a local college. The information was sent with a request that the PMO only be cited as “a source,” and included a jab that Mr. Trudeau’s choice hotel had a yoga studio.

“I have enclosed further materials that demonstrate the scope of this practice, cost on the organizations, and in many cases, poor outcomes and large deficits as a result of his speaking tour,” the e-mail said, according to the Barrie Advance story. Barrie is about an hour north of Toronto.

It’s not unusual for journalists to be offered or given information by partisan political parties or elected officials. The Barrie Advance said this was the first time it had been sent such information “unsolicited” from the powerful PMO. All federal party caucuses use taxpayer-funded office staff for research, though overtly partisan efforts tend to be undertaken by the parties themselves.

The person that brought this to the PMO attention is also has close ties to the the federal conservatives.

That charity’s board includes Judith Baxter, who has ties to the Conservatives. She was appointed by the Conservatives as a trustee of the Canadian Museum of Civilization and has posted a photograph of a visit to the PMO. Ms. Baxter’s husband sits on the constituency association of local Conservative MP Rob Moore. Mr. Moore also presented Ms. Baxter an award during a Canadian Museums Association gala last year – a photo of the two of them is on Mr. Moore’s website.

The PMO has said the board reached out to local MPs, including Mr. Moore. “That’s how the local media and our office received the letter,” spokeswoman Julie Vaux said, adding: “You have to question why Justin Trudeau ever thought it was appropriate for a sitting Member of Parliament to charge tens of thousands of dollars to non-profit groups. Most parliamentarians raise money for charity, not from charities.”

We're starting to get a much clearer picture of just how one of the slickest political attack machines in Canadian history operates.

I have this great idea, we should start a party who's main philosophy is to go to Ottawa to clean up politics and end the kind of corruption we are now seeing from using government power for partisan interests.

Stephen Harper dodges question on why his office spearheaded attacks on Justin Trudeau

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper sidestepped a question Tuesday over whether it was appropriate for his taxpayer-funded office to be distributing documents to media about paid speeches Justin Trudeau made before he was elected to Parliament.

But the issue hounded the Conservatives throughout the day as they faced fresh allegations of blurring the lines between government and partisan activity by using the Prime Minister’s Office to launch political attacks on the taxpayer dime.

“I see that as a very inappropriate use of taxpayers’ funds,” said Conservative-turned-Independent MP Brent Rathgeber.

“If the party mechanism wants to come up with those types of products or engage in that type of purely partisan warfare, that should come from the party machinery, not from the taxpayer-funded PMO.”

This came as Liberals and New Democrats continued their game of one-upmanship on the subject of transparency and accountability, with the NDP proposing changes to a secretive House of Commons committee.

The controversy around the PMO started when an Ontario newspaper revealed that the PMO supplied it with documents purporting to show that three organizations that contracted Trudeau to speak at events in 2006 and 2007 ended up losing money.

We could call it the renovation or reconstruction party or something like that, you know get the re... thing going. We certainly do need some fresh changes in Ottawa.

 

[captain morgan]

JT is getting himself in deeper and deeper.

... Notice how the Senate scandal is fast becoming yesterday's news?

 

[Zipperfish]

JT is getting himself in deeper and deeper.

... Notice how the Senate scandal is fast becoming yesterday's news?

The Senate controversey is the gift that keeps on giving. Justin Trudeau was moonlighting and charging $20,000 to charities to speak. But he posted it all online. Pamela Wallin was on several Boards acting as a paid Director for comapnies that were, at the same time, lobbying the government, and charging travel expenses to the taxpayer for assocaited travel and such (she admits to as much). That all came about because of an audit. The details of that have yet to come out.

So...yeah.

 

[petros]

Premier Brad Wall of SK was ragging on Trudeau so hard that one of his own caucus, a former Rider returned money he charged a charity for speaking at a fundraiser before any media caught on. That's f*king funny as all hell.

 

[JLM]

Actually I don't find any of the stuff these low lifes do to be too interesting. 99% of them are just a bunch of larcenous hypocrites! They'd steal Christ off the cross and come back for the nails!

 

[petros]

Sask. Party MLA and former Saskatchewan Roughriders offensive lineman Gene Makowsky has paid back more than $2,000 in fees he received this spring for appearing at charity events.

Makowsky returned the money this weekend after Premier Brad Wall made national headlines criticizing federal Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau for accepting hefty payments for speaking at charity functions


Read more: Gene Makowsky returns fees from charity appearances

Actually I don't find any of the stuff these low lifes do to be too interesting. 99% of them are just a bunch of larcenous hypocrites! They'd steal Christ off the cross and come back for the nails!

and the wood