Conservatives accuse Justin Trudeau of profiting from not-for-profits

Jonny_C

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Depends. I don't see how Trudeau's behaviour should reflect on my local Liberal candidates.

I would suggest that it reflects on Trudeau as the leader of the Liberal Party. Remember that local candidates will do their best to ride on his coat-tails; that's how it could affect them, no matter their own personal qualities.
 

Sal

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With our system who we place in our riding supports the ultimate leader so truly how should we vote...for the little guy in our riding or the big honcho on the hill?
 

#juan

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With our system who we place in our riding supports the ultimate leader so truly how should we vote...for the little guy in our riding or the big honcho on the hill?

When I was a kid my parents were strong Conservative supporters. When I got to voting age I tended to follow my parents until the Tories got a leader I just couldn't stand. I was left with no choice but the Liberals.....I mean I couldn't vote NDP....CCF in those days for God's sake.:roll::smile: In the last thirty years or so I've alternated between the Grits and the Tories. One was as bad as the other or good as the other depending on who the leader was.....or who the local candidate was.
 

Sal

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When I was a kid my parents were strong Conservative supporters. When I got to voting age I tended to follow my parents until the Tories got a leader I just couldn't stand. I was left with no choice but the Liberals.....I mean I couldn't vote NDP....CCF in those days for God's sake.:roll::smile: In the last thirty years or so I've alternated between the Grits and the Tories. One was as bad as the other or good as the other depending on who the leader was.....or who the local candidate was.
pretty much my story except my parents were strong liberals...sign on the lawn and all.. I have pretty much voted for everyone depending upon how disappointed I was with the current government or how apathetic I was feeling toward them at the time.

now I am just totally and completely appalled
 

damngrumpy

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Here they are pointing at Trudeau who has done nothing wrong solely because they want
to deflect attention from at least one person who is under investigation by the RCMP for
perhaps doing something seriously wrong on an on going basis. The glass house people
are certainly stooping low to find rocks to throw.
Yes its optics and I would hope the other parties use the optics we know about in the next
election especially if the wrong doing of a criminal nature is discovered.
As for the Duffy and his confusing paper work give me a break. No its not confusing only
if you are working at getting around the meaning of the law. Whallen is something else
again I didn't pay enough attention, ya right. These people worked in a field where paying
attention to detail was part of their life. They got caught, and the Conservatives should now
be silent.
Trudeau, I have little to like in the Liberal Leader but in this case he is a victim of optics,
With the Conservative Senators we were victims of greed and dishonesty and looking at it
that way the optics are and should be very different.
 

Cliffy

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Now the PMO is caught pushing the story while trying to keep hush hush about the source of the info. can't they give the mud a chance to sttle already?
From the article:
"But by perpetuating the story in this manner, the Conservatives have made a bad news story about Justin Trudeau into a bad news story about themselves."
Sums it all up quite nicely.
 

Sal

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From the article:
"But by perpetuating the story in this manner, the Conservatives have made a bad news story about Justin Trudeau into a bad news story about themselves."
Sums it all up quite nicely.
karma works on all levels!
 

Machjo

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Honestly, with friends like the CPC campaign machine, what conservative needs enemies? All the others really need to do is give the CPC as much of an opportunity to open their mouths as much as possible and then let the lcoal constituents decide. Any smart CPC MP wanting to win the next election would be smart to duck low and stay quiet or, better yet, speak out against the mud-slinging.
 

gerryh

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Actually, I like Coren....one of the more balanced right wingers, and a good Catholic.

And dead-on in his attack on Trudeau.


He's a hypocrite. He admits to doing the same damn thing. His big bitch, he doesn't get as much as Trudeau. So I stand by assessment.
 

Colpy

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He's a hypocrite. He admits to doing the same damn thing. His big bitch, he doesn't get as much as Trudeau. So I stand by assessment.

Gerry, Gerry...

Coren said he asks charities for what they can comfortably afford..............

Trudeau demands $20,000 plus expenses, and then refuses a refund.......when he was already being paid as a representative of the people....

And he is filthy rich to boot.

On what planet are those two the same things????
 

gerryh

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Gerry, Gerry...

Coren said he asks charities for what they can comfortably afford..............

Trudeau demands $20,000 plus expenses, and then refuses a refund.......when he was already being paid as a representative of the people....

And he is filthy rich to boot.

On what planet are those two the same things????


and the client can say no to his rate and not hire him. Simple. What does his bank account have to do with anything?

How about this. Trudeau has made public his incomes, Has Coren? For all I know we have a prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.
 

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and the client can say no to his rate and not hire him. Simple. What does his bank account have to do with anything?

How about this. Trudeau has made public his incomes, Has Coren? For all I know we have a prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Do you think MP's and Senators do a good job of policing themselves- I am referring in particular to the spending abuses we have seen by both house over the past 4-6 years.
I an guessing the Commons has a Committee the same as the Senate does to review spending.
 

gerryh

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Do you think MP's and Senators do a good job of policing themselves- I am referring in particular to the spending abuses we have seen by both house over the past 4-6 years.
I an guessing the Commons has a Committee the same as the Senate does to review spending.


nope, and neither does Trudeau. That is why he made public his incomes, unlike his opposition.
 

#juan

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Gerry, Gerry...

Coren said he asks charities for what they can comfortably afford..............

Trudeau demands $20,000 plus expenses, and then refuses a refund.......when he was already being paid as a representative of the people....

And he is filthy rich to boot.

On what planet are those two the same things????

Justin Trudeau inherited a million and a half from his dad. So he should just throw that money away Right? :roll:
 

Jonny_C

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Both the Senate expense accounts and Trudeau's speaking fees have to do with money and ethics, not judged solely by committees and an ethics commissioner, but judged by the public. I'm not so sure the Conservatives should sit quiet while being attacked. I don't see why they shouldn't fire off their own ammunition. It doesn't make Duffy and Wallin any less accountable, but it widens the issue. Greed is not the monopoly of any one party.

And we're forgetting Harb in all of this. He's probably happy to have the attention focused elsewhere.
 

Colpy

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Justin Trudeau inherited a million and a half from his dad. So he should just throw that money away Right? :roll:

No, absolutely not.

Nor are his speaking tours "unethical", in the official sense, as they were cleared by the Ethics Commissioner.

But he had one of the worst attendance records in the House........too busy flying around the country mouthing platitudes and arousing cougars.

I would expect a little more from my MP.....just to start with.
 

Goober

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nope, and neither does Trudeau. That is why he made public his incomes, unlike his opposition.

But he dropped the ball by charging charities- yes I am well aware it is legal- i am aware the Ethics Commissioner approved it.
The change he offers is what?
He has not changed his opinion on the Lib Senator. He will use the it is before the courts line. Proper thing as it is.
But he again dropped the ball earlier on this.
If the Senator had been found to have falsified expenses then he should have been given the boot from Caucas. He should have made that point crystal clear.

Go over the newscasts on the Lib Senator and then watch the House Leader in the Senate scramble for an answer as Justin made a snap decision and no one else was informed except by the reporters.
Is that how he plans to run the country.
I posted that link earlier in the thread.