Conservatives accuse Justin Trudeau of profiting from not-for-profits

hunboldt

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Hahaha, good one!!
Just shows what scum bag this idiot really is!! Hahaha they didn't get their money's worth,,, that is obvious to most reasonable Canadians !!

They haven't talked about how he did his traveling and speaking on company (Taxpayer) time,,,at least not yet!!

Ahhh - Durry- last of the Thomas Mulclair hard line supporters- .......
 

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If you're going to accuse a man of something illegal, or something that could cost that man his job, it better be a hell of a lot more than just "opinion". You either put up or shut the fu ck up.

This thread is about profiting from a non profit.... Nothing about illegal, unless forgoing your obligations as a representative/MP in order to deliver for-profit speeches and collecting an MP paycheck for that same time is illegal/unethical.

But maybe that is an RCMP investigation for another time
 

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Shocking possibility: The Ethics Commissioner could have been wrong on this one. ;-)

Certainly the idea of a Member of Parliament charging charities and other non-profit organizations huge speaking fees raises other eyebrows, if not his.
 

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Oh my, my! Tempests, tea pots... the cons are really digging deep for dirt. Must be terrifying to see the possibility of a loss of your despot. Keep it up. You are only guaranteeing a change of guard.
 

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Shocking possibility: The Ethics Commissioner could have been wrong on this one. ;-)

Certainly the idea of a Member of Parliament charging charities and other non-profit organizations huge speaking fees raises other eyebrows, if not his.

No doubt we can question the ethics of it. But in relative terms, the fact that he did consult with the ethics commissioner and went with his advice, regardless of whether the commissioner was right or not, is still a step above outright violating rules and pretending you don't know where you live. Yes, we're talking relative terms here, but still.

This thread is about profiting from a non profit.... Nothing about illegal, unless forgoing your obligations as a representative/MP in order to deliver for-profit speeches and collecting an MP paycheck for that same time is illegal/unethical.

But maybe that is an RCMP investigation for another time

Did he get paid to deliver speeches during debate times? I have no idea. But could be interesting.

MPs weigh in on Justin Trudeau charging speaking fees - Politics - CBC News

Now this is looking ugly.

First, it appers that trudeau has missed many sittings of Parliament! Ouch.

Secondly, it appears the Grace Foundation's head is playing politics. Mud all around!

Looks like its head is a heavily involved member of the CPC. Why did he release what's essentially a private matter to the public. Strange that.

But still, if Trudeau accepted any funds for speeches during sitting hours of Parliament, that won't look good for his constituents at all.
 

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No doubt we can question the ethics of it. But in relative terms, the fact that he did consult with the ethics commissioner and went with his advice, regardless of whether the commissioner was right or not, is still a step above outright violating rules and pretending you don't know where you live. Yes, we're talking relative terms here, but still.



Did he get paid to deliver speeches during debate times? I have no idea. But could be interesting.

MPs weigh in on Justin Trudeau charging speaking fees - Politics - CBC News

Now this is looking ugly.

First, it appers that trudeau has missed many sittings of Parliament! Ouch.

Secondly, it appears the Grace Foundation's head is playing politics. Mud all around!

Looks like its head is a heavily involved member of the CPC. Why did he release what's essentially a private matter to the public. Strange that.

But still, if Trudeau accepted any funds for speeches during sitting hours of Parliament, that won't look good for his constituents at all.

The more that emerges the less I could give a damn about Trudeau and a frigging speaking engagement at a not for profit. That is the LEAST of our problems. It merely highlights once again systemic problems that are huge, bleeding us dry and set up to do so.The more these morons finger point and scream "look over there at them," the more boils burst and pus and blood is leaking everywhere .

Donkeys braying at each other while the country falls down around our ears. Clowns in a circus all of them.

I am disgusted.
 

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Why would the Grace Foundation enter a contract with Trudeau for twenty thousand dollars when they knew damn well they couldn't afford it. This looks like a planned happening. They then beg to have the money back, and Trudeau is damned if he does and damned if he don't. All part of a sleazy Conservative plan.
 

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Why would the Grace Foundation enter a contract with Trudeau for twenty thousand dollars when they knew damn well they couldn't afford it. This looks like a planned happening. They then beg to have the money back, and Trudeau is damned if he does and damned if he don't. All part of a sleazy Conservative plan.
bingo ♦
 

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Why would the Grace Foundation enter a contract with Trudeau for twenty thousand dollars when they knew damn well they couldn't afford it. This looks like a planned happening. They then beg to have the money back, and Trudeau is damned if he does and damned if he don't. All part of a sleazy Conservative plan.

As usual, your wrong again!!

He would have been damned had he given the speech for free as his gift to a Charity, just like our present PM does and like most others who are in the public eye!!
But this guy is a scum bag, he probably takes candies from babies!!
 

Sal

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As usual, your wrong again!!

He would have been damned had he given the speech for free as his gift to a Charity, just like our present PM does and like most others who are in the public eye!!
But this guy is a scum bag, he probably takes candies from babies!!
Durry I keep reading your posts and praying that you can see the corruption behind your own lines. I am hoping that you are just posting defense for yucks and chuckles and that you actually have a balanced political view, yes?
 

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Durry I keep reading your posts and praying that you can see the corruption behind your own lines. I am hoping that you are just posting defense for yucks and chuckles and that you actually have a balanced political view, yes?
Don't hold your breath. He's a fundamentalist Con.
 

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Secondly, it appears the Grace Foundation's head is playing politics. Mud all around!

Looks like its head is a heavily involved member of the CPC. Why did he release what's essentially a private matter to the public. Strange that.

Strange that if that is the case, Trudeau, as a Liberal, would have been invited to speak in the first place.

But still, if Trudeau accepted any funds for speeches during sitting hours of Parliament, that won't look good for his constituents at all.

I think you're right, but I would expand that to Canadians in general.
 

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Why would the Grace Foundation enter a contract with Trudeau for twenty thousand dollars when they knew damn well they couldn't afford it. This looks like a planned happening. They then beg to have the money back, and Trudeau is damned if he does and damned if he don't. All part of a sleazy Conservative plan.

The Grace Foundation is a subsidiary of a larger charitable organization that receives several million in fed funding every year.

Probably a misnomer. Not that graceful to hire someone, then ask for your money back and then go through the PMO to refgister your compaint.

Yep, Trudeau is from Montreal, and we have all seen the culture of corruption that exists in Quebec.

I guess when you come from a culture of corruption, it's probably pretty hard to understand right from wrong and even more difficult to have the ability to adhere to upstanding ethical standards!!

Yeah, well I find that people with no vices have precious few virtues. :lol:
 

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Strange that if that is the case, Trudeau, as a Liberal, would have been invited to speak in the first place.



I think you're right, but I would expand that to Canadians in general.

Depends. I don't see how Trudeau's behaviour should reflect on my local Liberal candidates. In fact, in spite of all the Conservative shannigans, there is at least on Conservative MP I could consider voting for in my riding. Perhaps that's part of the problem too. Any ideot can win an election as long as we like the leader, and any genious can lose because of the follies of the leader. If that's how we vote, no wonder the systems' messed up.
 

Machjo

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Yep, Trudeau is from Montreal, and we have all seen the culture of corruption that exists in Quebec.

I guess when you come from a culture of corruption, it's probably pretty hard to understand right from wrong and even more difficult to have the ability to adhere to upstanding ethical standards!!

Durry, I hope you don't vote if you think you can judge a person's character based on his place of residence. Silly twit.


Yup. Mud all around.