Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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The Palestinian Authority claimed Saturday that Arafat Jaradat, the 30-year-old Palestinian who died in Megiddo Prison last week, was killed by Palestinian “collaborators.” JPost

Shut the front door!!!

Palestinians killed Jaradat?!

So much for tortured to death by Israelis.

You just have to love how this story is changing as the days pass by.

Oh the drama.
 

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The Palestinian Authority claimed Saturday that Arafat Jaradat, the 30-year-old Palestinian who died in Megiddo Prison last week, was killed by Palestinian “collaborators.” JPost

Shut the front door!!!

Palestinians killed Jaradat?!

So much for tortured to death by Israelis.

You just have to love how this story is changing as the days pass by.

Oh the drama.
The plot thickens..........
 

CDNBear

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The plot thickens..........
And deepens, kind of like...

 

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Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories have far more in common with Jews who suffered under the Nazis, than Jews who live a short distance away and enjoy the same rights and freedoms as you and I.

In the twelve years of Nazi rule the Jewish population of Europe dropped from 18 million to twelve million persons.

In the 45 years of Israeli "occupation", the population of the West Bank and Gaza has grown from 1.03 million to 4.12 million.

Can you not tell the difference?????????????

SHAME on you.
 

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Let me get this straight CB. When Israelis were implicated, you demanded an impossible burden of proof. But when Palestinians are implicated, then no burden of proof is required at all.

The fact is, the Israelis detained this person. His safety is the responsibility of the Israeli authorities. If they put this person in a situation where they knew he'd be assaulted, then are just as guilty as if they committed the assault themselves.

The only difference is the nationality of those who should face murder charges. Whoever beat this man to death is guilty of murder and they should be charged... Their nationality and religion is beside the point. If the jpost story is true and the Israeli jailers deliberately put this person in a life threatening situation, they should be charged as accomplices in Jaradat's murder.

If this person was your son or brother, rather than a lowly Palestinian (someone CB and others here obviously believe are subhumans, undeserving of life and liberty), you might understand why their senseless death is a crime.
 

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Let me get this straight CB. When Israelis were implicated, you demanded an impossible burden of proof. But when Palestinians are implicated, then no burden of proof is required at all.

The fact is, the Israelis detained this person. His safety is the responsibility of the Israeli authorities. If they put this person in a situation where they knew he'd be assaulted, then are just as guilty as if they committed the assault themselves.

The only difference is the nationality of those who should face murder charges. Whoever beat this man to death is guilty of murder and they should be charged... Their nationality and religion is beside the point. If the jpost story is true and the Israeli jailers deliberately put this person in a life threatening situation, they should be charged as accomplices in Jaradat's murder.

If this person was your son or brother, rather than a lowly Palestinian (someone CB and others here obviously believe are subhumans, undeserving of life and liberty), you might understand why their senseless death is a crime.

Where has CB ever made a statement classifying Palestinians as Sub Humans. That is over the line. And who pray tell are the others.
 

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ladies and gentlemen, if you read the following, you will see that not only do I show EAO to be a liar, yet again, I show where he projects his own flaws, and of course as always, we can see how he is nothing more than a bigot, who hates Jews.

Let me get this straight CB.
You can try, but I can guarantee you'll be wrong.

So I'll take the time to explain how you're wrong and you'll ignore that too.

When Israelis were implicated, you demanded an impossible burden of proof.
Nope. I asked you for information I already had.

So obviously it wasn't an impossible burden of proof.

All that of course stemmed from the fact that there were inconsistencies, contradictions and things that didn't make sense the article you posted.

Which of course was all YOU needed to convict the Israeli's.

Which of course is proof positive, you are now falsely projecting your flaws.

But when Palestinians are implicated...
By the Palestinian Authority...

... then no burden of proof is required at all.
Actually, apart from thinking the PA are a bunch of goons, of which there is ample evidence, I still don't know what happened, but given the idiocy the PA has claimed, the inconsistencies, contradictions and things that don't make sense, I actually believe he died in custody, but not in a manner consistent with the claims of the PA.

I'm waiting for the (multinational) autopsy to come out before I start looking for someone to poke in the eye. Unlike you. You only need that claim of terrorists to do that, lol.

The fact is, the Israelis detained this person. His safety is the responsibility of the Israeli authorities. If they put this person in a situation where they knew he'd be assaulted, then are just as guilty as if they committed the assault themselves.
I agree.

But we still don't know what killed him.

Well that's not true, you have made it clear you know the Israelis killed him. Despite there being no hard evidence yet, lol.

The only difference is the nationality of those who should face murder charges.
I disagree. If the Israeli authorities knowingly put him in a situation where his safety or life was in danger, they'd be accessories.

Whoever beat this man to death is guilty of murder and they should be charged...
There you go again... How did you put it, oh ya, let me paraphrase you...

Let me get this straight EAO. When Israelis are implicated, then no burden of proof is required at all.

LOL.

There's no proof he was beaten to death yet, but that hasn't stopped you from claiming that that is how he was he was murdered by the Israelis, lol.

Their nationality and religion is beside the point.
Well, to me it's besides the point, to you it's obviously the difference between who

If the jpost story is true and the Israeli jailers deliberately put this person in a life threatening situation, they should be charged as accomplices in Jaradat's murder.
That's a little different than what you said earlier, but I agree.

If this person was your son or brother, rather than a lowly Palestinian, you might understand why their senseless death is a crime.
Actually, if he were my son or brother I'd wait to see what the (multinational) autopsy said before making all the Nazi-esque claims you and your terrorist buddies have.

But then again, I'm reasonable, use critical thought and objectivity, unlike you.

(someone CB and others here obviously believe are subhumans, undeserving of life and liberty)
Besides being the reason you got a neg rep, as well as being utterly ridiculous, it's trolling and therefore against the forum rules you tout and demand all others follow, except yourself.

Where has CB ever made a statement classifying Palestinians as Sub Humans.
Never.

That's just EAO trolling, as he is the only one that is allowed to do so.

That is over the line.
Actually, it's hate speech under Canadian law.

And who pray tell are the others.
Anyone that laughs at EAO and his terrorist buddies, and disagree with EAO in general.
 
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As soon as the Israelis detained this person, they are responsible for what happened to him, while in Israeli custody.

If anyone knowingly put this person in a dangerous situation, they they are responsible for the inevitable outcome.
 

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As soon as the Israelis detained this person, they are responsible for what happened to him, while in Israeli custody.
I agree.

But that isn't what you have been saying, lol.

You can back pedal all you want, now that it's starting to get thick deep and smelly.

But in the end all your words are memorialized for all to see, lol.

If anyone knowingly put this person in a dangerous situation, they they are responsible for the inevitable outcome.
I agree.

Again though, you haven't been using any if's.

Would you like to see all the full out accusations of murder you've made?
 

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As soon as the Israelis detained this person, they are responsible for what happened to him, while in Israeli custody.

If anyone knowingly put this person in a dangerous situation, they they are responsible for the inevitable outcome.

Care to retract and apologize for labeling CB and others as believing Palestinians are Sub Humans.
 

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No, because I believe that both you and CB are racist bigots when it comes to Muslims in general and Palestinians specifically.

If you believed in universal human rights, you'd stick up for oppressed Palestinians. You'd demand Palestinians have same rights and freedoms as everyone else and criticize anyone who supports the status quo.

Instead both of you have clearly sided with their oppressors. You support the way Israeli war criminals treat Palestinians, proving that you consider them be be undeserving of the same rights and freedoms that you and I have.... aka subhuman.

If either of you make an unqualified statement in support of Palestinian freedom and justice and a statement critical of those responsible for their oppression and injustice, then you are no better than those who supported South African Apartheid, or historical US racist segregation polices.
 

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The oppressed Palestinians have been well supported in here. Sadly, their more mouthy and armed counterparts keep stealing the spotlight - much the same as what has happened among peaceful Israelis
 

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No, because I believe that both you and CB are racist bigots when it comes to Muslims in general and Palestinians specifically.

If you believed in universal human rights, you'd stick up for oppressed Palestinians. You'd demand Palestinians have same rights and freedoms as everyone else and criticize anyone who supports the status quo.

Instead both of you have clearly sided with their oppressors. You support the way Israeli war criminals treat Palestinians, proving that you consider them be be undeserving of the same rights and freedoms that you and I have.... aka subhuman.

If either of you make an unqualified statement in support of Palestinian freedom and justice and a statement critical of those responsible for their oppression and injustice, then you are no better than those who supported South African Apartheid, or historical US racist segregation polices.
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In my opinion - Under the present Israeli administration they have done everything possible to avoid negotiationg with the Palestinian Authority.

Israel clearly has to be brought to the table.


State of Confusion - By Ephraim Sneh | Foreign Policy

The Israel-Hamas war has refocused international attention on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and increased the stakes surrounding U.S. President Barack Obama's handling of the Palestinian bid for recognition at the United Nations as a non-member state. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas intends to submit that bid on November 29th -- the 65th anniversary of the U.N. resolution to partition the territory of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.

Add to these factors Abbas's remarkable interview on Israeli television earlier this month. "We will not go back to terrorism and violence," he said. "We will only operate through diplomacy and through peaceful means." Abbas then made a surprising concession on the refugee issue that has long plagued Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, noting that while he is a refugee from Safed, he would like to visit but not live there. "Palestine for me is the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the capital," he explained. "The West Bank and Gaza is Palestine. Everything else is Israel." Just days before this interview, in Ramallah, Abbas confirmed to a small group of former Israeli generals, including me, that he will ask the Israeli prime minister to restart direct peace negotiations immediately after U.N. recognition.

If, however, the U.S. Congress follows through with its threat to cut financial support to the Palestinian Authority as part of a series of punitive measures for Abbas's campaign at the United Nations, it would be a shot not in the foot but in the liver -- Israel's. If the PA collapses economically and Palestinian security forces have to stop their operations because of budget constraints, the struggle against terror in the West Bank will suffer dramatically. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will then have to increase their presence in the West Bank at the expense of other areas in the region, generating more unnecessary friction with the population in the territory. The fruitful cooperation between the IDF and Palestinian security forces -- trained and organized by Lt. Gen. Keith Dayton's team -- will collapse, reversing the most impressive American achievement on the ground in recent years. The near-total cessation of terrorist activity in the West Bank in the last four years is a result of this cooperation. Without it, more Israelis will be killed. And Israel's friends in Congress must remember this.

For 20 years, Abbas led the Palestinian camp that strongly opposed terrorism and favored a negotiated agreement with Israel as the only way to secure an independent state. He did it courageously, against Yasir Arafat and against the Iran-backed Islamist opposition, Hamas. But the events of the last few years have frustrated Abbas's policy.

After the Palestinian leader agreed with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on the principles of a final-status agreement -- including the thorny issues of Jerusalem and refugees -- Olmert was forced to resign in the face of corruption accusations (he was later acquitted). After Benjamin Netanyahu succeeded Olmert, he froze settlement expansion in the West Bank for 10 months and accepted the principle of a two-state solution. But the conditions he imposed on the resumption of negotiations made these talk impossible. These conditions, like recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, were never imposed on any Arab country that negotiated with Israel, including Egypt, Jordan, and Syria.

Abbas's statehood bid can be a game-changer if the American and Israeli governments respond prudently. Or it can be another missed opportunity -- and a potentially disastrous one at that -- if they respond punitively to a remarkable Palestinian achievement at the U.N. General Assembly. Each stakeholder in this conflict will have to decide very soon on which side of history they stand.

 

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No, because I believe that both you and CB are racist bigots when it comes to Muslims in general and Palestinians specifically.
Based on nothing but your weak assumptions.

While I can and have proven you support terrorism, and terrorists, and hate Jews.

If you believed in universal human rights, you'd stick up for oppressed Palestinians.

You'd demand Palestinians have same rights and freedoms as everyone else and criticize anyone who supports the status quo.
I do, I hope and pray that Hamas and the PA are ousted and replaced with a government that isn't repressive.

Instead both of you have clearly sided with their oppressors.
You only think that, because you have no idea what critical thought and objectivity are, let alone what it looks like, lol.

You support the way Israeli war criminals treat Palestinians...
No we don't, lol.

If either of you make an unqualified statement in support of Palestinian freedom and justice and a statement critical of those responsible for their oppression and injustice, then you are no better than those who supported South African Apartheid, or historical US racist segregation polices.
There you go with your unsubstantiated Nazi-esque propaganda again.

Are you aware of the fact that you shoot your own claims down when you go all nutty at the end?

Irrelevant Goob's..

EAO doesn't dig facts.

And the funniest part is, he keeps proving me right, lol.
 

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No, because I believe that both you and CB are racist bigots when it comes to Muslims in general and Palestinians specifically.

If you believed in universal human rights, you'd stick up for oppressed Palestinians. You'd demand Palestinians have same rights and freedoms as everyone else and criticize anyone who supports the status quo.

Instead both of you have clearly sided with their oppressors. You support the way Israeli war criminals treat Palestinians, proving that you consider them be be undeserving of the same rights and freedoms that you and I have.... aka subhuman.

If either of you make an unqualified statement in support of Palestinian freedom and justice and a statement critical of those responsible for their oppression and injustice, then you are no better than those who supported South African Apartheid, or historical US racist segregation polices.

Ahem, I say Ahem. Ready to retract and apologize to CB,myself and others?