Muslims patrol east London hunting down drinkers and immodestly dressed women

[EagleSmack]

Well I would ask you if you believe this guy looks as intimidating. You posted the other picture as an example of someone that the patrol would not want to tangle with. I think the reason you choose the other guy was because the picture looks like someone who angry and volitile. This guy could be a choir boy from the expression on his face. So I would say no.

You called the Brit a skinhead and added something about racial purity. It was a picture of a British Soccer fan.


You would say no though? Got to love those double standards!

No I don't... I support the law. Read what I wrote. If the zealots want to create a distinct neighborhood which prohibits alcohol and nudity, then they should work through the system to zone their neighborhood as a distinct area which prohibits alcohol and nudity. If someone violates the law, then its up to the authorities to enforce it, not vigilantes.
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So they should be able to create their own laws in their so called neighborhoods and the police must enforce them? What about people who live within the neighborhood that aren't even of their religion? What if they want all women covered up even if they are passing through? The Police should stop them and make them cover up?

 

[Nuggler]

This is a leaf if he was really Canadian he would have a beaver painted on his face.

Maybe he's seen the beaver up close and decided he prefers maple leaves......................coward.

 

[earth_as_one]

Islamaphobia is a growing problem in West. Here are just two examples:

Laws which unnecessarily ban burkas in public are discriminatory against Muslims. The only valid reasons for banning clothing that covers the face are related to public safety. These laws are specifically directed at Muslims. Nearly all the arguments in support of these bans would also apply to ski masks, Halloween costumes and Nun's habits.

All that crap about the "Ground Zero Mosque" in New York City was based on Islamaphobia. New York Muslims apparently do not have the same right to build a community center anywhere they want as every other religious group in the US.

If Islamaphobia continues to grow unchecked, it will lead to similar discrimination and oppression of Muslims as Jews suffered over the centuries. It could eventually lead to extermination policies, just like antisemitism did. I doubt anyone in Germany during the 1800's could have predicted the holocaust, just like no one today can predict where rising Islamaphobia will eventually lead. Hopefully sanity and tolerance will defeat Islamaphobic attempts to institutionalize discrimination against Muslims.

 

[EagleSmack]

Oh really! What if the community got together, created new by-laws through the certain channels you previously mentioned and said no burkas, etc.? Enforceable but the local police. Would you support it?

 

[earth_as_one]

Yes I would support a community passing a by-law prohibiting burkas at the community level, provided the proponents got a 2/3 majority in support of the municipal by-law. But not as a federal, state or provincial law. Such by-laws would not infringe on freedoms as people have the freedom not to visit these neighborhoods. These neighborhoods would be exceptions, not the rule.

I would also support a community passing a by-law to require burkas, if the proponents of the change got a 2/3 majority endorsing this change.

I'd also want to see these types of by-law have an end date, where they'd have to be voted on again every so often, like the Quebec government's language laws.

 

[jariax]

Give them medals. Nice to see somebody cleaning up all the drunks and *****s.
As long as they're not physically hurting anyone - good for them.

Maybe a good public shaming is exactly what these people need.

 

[Walter]

In England and Wales it is legal to drink alcohol on the street.

For example, it is perfectly legal to buy a drink in a pub, take it outside and drink it whilst walking down the street. It is also legal to buy alcohol from a shop and immediately begin drinking it outside.

Very civilized.

 

[taxslave]

Islamaphobia is a growing problem in West. Here are just two examples:

Laws which unnecessarily ban burkas in public are discriminatory against Muslims. The only valid reasons for banning clothing that covers the face are related to public safety. These laws are specifically directed at Muslims. Nearly all the arguments in support of these bans would also apply to ski masks, Halloween costumes and Nun's habits.

All that crap about the "Ground Zero Mosque" in New York City was based on Islamaphobia. New York Muslims apparently do not have the same right to build a community center anywhere they want as every other religious group in the US.

If Islamaphobia continues to grow unchecked, it will lead to similar discrimination and oppression of Muslims as Jews suffered over the centuries. It could eventually lead to extermination policies, just like antisemitism did. I doubt anyone in Germany during the 1800's could have predicted the holocaust, just like no one today can predict where rising Islamaphobia will eventually lead. Hopefully sanity and tolerance will defeat Islamaphobic attempts to institutionalize discrimination against Muslims.

Wrong. Islam in the west is a growing problem. We don't want anything to do with their medieval society. If someone wishes to immigrate to the west they can learn western customs, their repressive and evil religious laws are not welcome.

 

[EagleSmack]

Wrong. Islam in the west is a growing problem. We don't want anything to do with their medieval society. If someone wishes to immigrate to the west they can learn western customs, their repressive and evil religious laws are not welcome.

Oh no... if they populate a neighborhood they can change all the laws they wish!

What an idiot he is.

 

[taxslave]

Oh no... if they populate a neighborhood they can change all the laws they wish!

What an idiot he is.

A few years ago there was a push by religious zealots to impose Sharia law in Canada and some of our lefarded politicians, always ready to buy a vote were actually in favor.

 

[Colpy]

Give them medals. Nice to see somebody cleaning up all the drunks and *****s.
As long as they're not physically hurting anyone - good for them.

Maybe a good public shaming is exactly what these people need.

Yeah, right.

Hell, I don't like your looks.

Better stay off my street.

 

[Sal]

You called the Brit a skinhead and added something about racial purity. It was a picture of a British Soccer fan.


You would say no though? Got to love those double standards!

First of all, I said nothing about racial purity. I said he "looked" like a skin head. I did not say he "was" a skin head because I have no way of knowing that from the picture as it is cropped and does not show a surround. I have commented ONLY upon the facts as can be verified nothing more.

 

[Colpy]

Yes I would support a community passing a by-law prohibiting burkas at the community level, provided the proponents got a 2/3 majority in support of the municipal by-law. But not as a federal, state or provincial law. Such by-laws would not infringe on freedoms as people have the freedom not to visit these neighborhoods. These neighborhoods would be exceptions, not the rule.

I would also support a community passing a by-law to require burkas, if the proponents of the change got a 2/3 majority endorsing this change.

I'd also want to see these types of by-law have an end date, where they'd have to be voted on again every so often, like the Quebec government's language laws.

WAyyyyy out of line. In western society you must show your face for identification purposes. If you don't like that, skip back to whatever Islamic hellhole you crawled out of....thank you.

OF COURSE you would support such a thing as a vote to require burkas, you have no clue about liberty.

I would support getting together with some friends, some beers, and some rock and roll, and cruising the Islamic areas, ready to demonstrate to these scum, these fascist pigs, these enemies of freedom exactly how dangerous it would be to tread on me.

Oppression is best met with violence.

 

[Corduroy]

Did you know that EAO's concept of community government already exists in practice all over the Western world and has for hundreds of years? Chances are, you experience them it in its milder forms every day (like a parking sign or an "employees must wash hands" sign in a washroom), but religious oppression is still done this way too. Ever heard of a dry town? Did you know that Footloose is based on a true story?

 

[EagleSmack]

First of all, I said nothing about racial purity.

You didn't?

The proud symbol of racial purity.

Am I missing something?

I said he "looked" like a skin head. I did not say he "was" a skin head because I have no way of knowing that from the picture as it is cropped and does not show a surround. I have commented ONLY upon the facts as can be verified nothing more.

Are you sure?

ya mean the belligerent looking skin head... he looks like the opposite side of the same coin...

Come on now... at least try

Did you know that EAO's concept of community government already exists in practice all over the Western world and has for hundreds of years? Chances are, you experience them it in its milder forms every day (like a parking sign or an "employees must wash hands" sign in a washroom), but religious oppression is still done this way too. Ever heard of a dry town? Did you know that Footloose is based on a true story?

Do you mean that people can move into, lets say a certain street... then all come to an agreement and say "Nobody can drink on our street".

I know there are dry towns. That does not mean you cannot drink in the town, it just means that businesses in the town cannot serve alcohol or sell alcohol. People in the town are not forbidden to have BBQs (for example) and parties where alcohol is present.

 

[CDNBear]

Yes I would support a community passing a by-law prohibiting burkas...

That's not what you said when France banned them.

 

[earth_as_one]

As I already wrote, I am against passing laws these sorts of laws at the federal, state or provincial level.

Yes I would support a community passing a by-law prohibiting burkas at the community level, provided the proponents got a 2/3 majority in support of the municipal by-law. But not as a federal, state or provincial law. Such by-laws would not infringe on freedoms as people have the freedom not to visit these neighborhoods. These neighborhoods would be exceptions, not the rule.

I would also support a community passing a by-law to require burkas, if the proponents of the change got a 2/3 majority endorsing this change.

I'd also want to see these types of by-law have an end date, where they'd have to be voted on again every so often, like the Quebec government's language laws.

I can avoid communities with by-laws I don't like. But if the change is at the federal, state or provincial level, then its one size fits everyone. That would be far too enforced conformism for me.

For example, I would be against banning alcohol sales at the state/provincial level. But if 2/3 of a community votes to ban alcohol, I'd recognize their right to pass that by-law. I can always travel to the next community where they sell alcohol and I can drink alcohol in public... but I shouldn't have to leave the country, province or state.

I wouldn't want severe fines or jail time either... the penalty should be annoying enough to encourage everyone to respect the by-law.

 

[Goober]

Yes I would support a community passing a by-law prohibiting burkas at the community level, provided the proponents got a 2/3 majority in support of the municipal by-law. But not as a federal, state or provincial law. Such by-laws would not infringe on freedoms as people have the freedom not to visit these neighborhoods. These neighborhoods would be exceptions, not the rule.

I would also support a community passing a by-law to require burkas, if the proponents of the change got a 2/3 majority endorsing this change.

I'd also want to see these types of by-law have an end date, where they'd have to be voted on again every so often, like the Quebec government's language laws.

I would support a national law that bars these prisons - cultural prisons not religious- from all Govt Buildings.
Your 2/3rds community thinking is out there- way out there.

 

[CDNBear]

Oh I see, moral relativism.

Gotchya.

 

[Goober]

As I already wrote, I am against passing laws these sorts of laws at the federal, state or provincial level.


I can avoid communities with by-laws I don't like. But if the change is at the federal, state or provincial level, then its one size fits everyone. That would be far too enforced conformism for me.

For example, I would be against banning alcohol sales at the state/provincial level. But if 2/3 of a community votes to ban alcohol, I'd recognize their right to pass that by-law. I can always travel to the next community where they sell alcohol and I can drink alcohol in public... but I shouldn't have to leave the country, province or state.

I wouldn't want severe fines or jail time either... the penalty should be annoying enough to encourage everyone to respect the by-law.

What happens if your community is surrounded. Guess you stay home.