Canada , you will have a hard time getting a passport if you have a criminal record .Spitting on someone is a criminal offence .
China criticizes US Human Rights Record in Report
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You don't need a passport to leave Canada. You need it to get into many countries and it might make getting back into Canada easier.
You are correct taxslave ,you just need the 'means'of leaving a said country .The Chinese are using boats as a means of transporting themselves to Canada's western coast.
.Last I've heard they have no intention of returning to their home land.
There is no problem of getting a passport for a Chinese citizen
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Everybody calm down - we all know our poorest are watching 1080p blurays while doing their blow.
Fifty
Million
Murdered.
At least.
One of the greatest human rights abusers on earth, secret executions, detention without charge, corruption, slaughter of protesters, arrest of those that speak out, the tearing out of the condemned's organs before their execution, supporter of ALL the worst abusers on earth.......and these people think China is wonderful because they go there and have a nice time.
Gee Whiz Guys
What can I say??
Many things, but they would get deleted.
Smarten up.
Million
Murdered.
At least.
One of the greatest human rights abusers on earth, secret executions, detention without charge, corruption, slaughter of protesters, arrest of those that speak out, the tearing out of the condemned's organs before their execution, supporter of ALL the worst abusers on earth.......and these people think China is wonderful because they go there and have a nice time.
Gee Whiz Guys
What can I say??
Many things, but they would get deleted.
Smarten up.
Police officers practise executing supposed prisoners with a shot to the head during a police drill in Nanning, Guangxi, southern China. Photograph: AP
Yep. Chinese police learning to respect the human rights of their citizens.
How stupid do you have to be to listen to these people criticize the west??
(rhetorical question)
What year was that Colpy? Are any of the people who did this still running China?
Referencing China's historical injustices in a debate about the state of human rights in China today is barely on-topic and about as relevant as referencing American historical injustices in a debate about the state of human rights in the US today. But if you want to go there, sure I'll compare historical injustices in China relative to historical injustices in the US even though neither issue has any significant relevance to the human rights situation today.
The US practiced ethnic cleansing and genocide against first nations people. Their soldiers murdered and slaughtered entire communities. Tens of thousands of people were forced from their homes and their land was awarded to mostly white people. The US also had an active slave trade for hundreds of years. White slave owners raped and murdered their black slaves with impunity.
But if I was to raise these issues in a discussion about American human rights today, I'd look just as ridiculous as you do now bringing up historical Chinese events... which have little to no bearing on the state of human rights in China today.
I never claimed that China is a human rights leader or that their current record is something the Chinese can take pride in. I am saying that over the last 10 years, the human rights situation has improved in China and deteriorated in the US to the point where China can almost criticize the US on human rights issues and not appear hypocritical.
I'll keep repeating that statement until the subtlety sinks in, as some of you appear to believe I am actually defending China's human rights record. A few regulars here have made false claims about my meaning/intent in order to make straw man arguments.
Certainly the US no longer has a good enough human rights record to be able to criticize China without looking hypocritical.
Here are summaries from Amnesty International regarding the US, China and Canada:
AI Regarding China 2011
Fearful of a protest movement inspired by events in the Middle East and North Africa, in February the authorities unleashed one of the harshest crackdowns on political activists, human rights defenders and online activists since the 1989 Tiananmen Square demonstrations. Harassment, intimidation, arbitrary and illegal detention, and enforced disappearances intensified against government critics. Ethnic minority regions were under heightened security as local residents protested against discrimination, repression and other violations of their rights. The authorities increased ongoing efforts to bring all religious practice within the control of the state; this included harsh persecution of some religious practitioners. China’s economic strength during the global financial crisis increased the country’s leverage in the domain of global human rights – mostly for the worse.
Details: Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
AI Regarding the USA 2011:
Forty-three men were executed during the year, and concerns about cruel prison conditions continued. Scores of detainees remained in indefinite military detention at Guantánamo. The administration announced its intention to pursue the death penalty against six of these detainees in trials by military commission. Some 3,000 people were held in the US detention facility on the Bagram air base in Afghanistan by the end of the year. Use of lethal force in the counter-terrorism context raised serious concerns, as did continuing reports of the use of excessive force in the domestic law enforcement context.
Details: Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
When you factor the US's much higher violent crime rate, US foreign policies support of brutal dictators and ethnic cleansing, its clear Americans can't take pride in their human rights record or legitimately criticize China's improving human rights record.
While China executes more people every year than any other country, they are also the world's most greatest population. So absolute values comparing a country with 1.5 billion people to a country with only 300 million people is misleading. Also China does not release information about its executions, so its difficult to know their exact per capita rate. But I did find this:
Eighty-eight per cent of all known executions in 2007 took place in five countries: China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the USA. Saudi Arabia (eao: SA is a US supported dictatorship) had the highest number of executions per capita, followed by Iran and Libya. Amnesty International can confirm at least 470 executions by China - the highest overall figure. Lack of transparency and limited access to information about the number of executions in China means that the true figure is undoubtedly much higher.
2007 world death penalty statistics published - Amnesty International Australia
For balance, AI Regarding Canada
There were continuing systematic violations of the rights of Indigenous Peoples. Limited progress was made in addressing concerns about human rights violations associated with counter-terror and policing operations.
Details: Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Based on the above I would still rate the US human rights record as better than China's... but not by that much. Certainly Canada has a MUCH better human rights record than the US or China. Canada can still improve regarding the rights of Indigenous Peoples and due process for alleged "terrorists"... The fact that we use the word terrorist and terrorism in our legal code instead of criminals or prisoners of war indicates we have a prejudicial biased legal process when it comes to certain crimes.
Talk about sad... and pathetic. Make a post which is polite and you might get a response.
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No that was the Canadians who did that to the First Nations. The Americans had the Native Americans to worry about. The Native American soldiers also massacred whole communities and raped, mutilated, murdered and kidnapped white people. The Native Americans also preyed upon each other and enslaved each other and also participated in the enslavement of black people.
Oh they are considered poor because they don't have as much cool stuff as those that work. However they have their flat screens, AC, top of the line clothes, sweet rides, and have so much food that the "poor" have become the most obese class in the US.
Please... don't talk to me about poverty in the US.
Yes we can see how the US has been cleansed of white people by the Native Americans. As a result hardly any white people remain in the USA. The USA is completely dominated by the First Nations people. Few people speak the white languages any more. they've lost their culture and heritage. Today many white people live in poverty stricken reservations. Yes its terrible what the Native Americans did to the white people.
I would agree that Europeans never brought genocide or slavery to North America. I agree these things already existed. But two wrongs never made a right, even back then. Also I never claimed Canada's historical record is better than the US regarding ethnic cleansing or genocide. .Historical American injustices deserve their own thread.
I would agree that Europeans never brought genocide or slavery to North America. I agree these things already existed. But two wrongs never made a right, even back then. Also I never claimed Canada's historical record is better than the US regarding ethnic cleansing or genocide. .Historical American injustices deserve their own thread.
Here's an idea. Focus on your own back yard hypocrite.
So stupid.
It was. It was also terrible what they did to each other. It was all fun and games mutilating, raping, and murdering until the tables turned. Just ask your Nazi friends about payback served up by the Soviets.
So stupid.
It was. It was also terrible what they did to each other. It was all fun and games mutilating, raping, and murdering until the tables turned. Just ask your Nazi friends about payback served up by the Soviets.
I already put Canada's current human rights record up against the current US human rights record and Canada came out on top.
Canada doe not have anything like Gitmo, nor is torture a legal means to extract information here in Canada.
Canada does not abduct people. Our authorities use due process to arrest people and their authority does not extend beyond our borders.
Canada does not summarily execute people with drones, unlike the US which regularly and illegally flies their killer drones into sovereign airspace to execute people in Pakistan, Yemen and other locations without any due process or judicial oversight, often killing scores of innocent people in the process. Americans have even killed American citizens this way.
Canada does not have the death penalty. We even released a few people who were wrongly convicted of crimes that would have been capital offenses in the US. The US should revisit all the old evidence used to convict people of capital crimes with new tools. Likely Americans will discover that they've executed many innocent people over the years.
Canadian prisoners have not gone on hunger strikes to protest poor over crowded prison conditions. that might have something to do with the US's "For Profit" penal system and having the highest incarceration rate in the world. I suspect some American judges get kickbacks from prison corporations for handing out long and profitable sentences.
Canadian border guards don't shoot and kill American children on the American side of the border. But American border guards do shoot and kill Mexican children on the Mexican side of the border.
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Just being complicit eh?
Right... you send them to other countries for that.
LMAO. Short memory.
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/new...ned-for-six-years-declares-hunger-strike.html
You've got the best snipers in the whole Afghan theater!
Illegal by who? International law? LMAO
And we'll kill more American citizens if they want to go jihading. No tears being shed here for that scum.
And you release child molesters, rapists, and convicted murderers who repeat offend. No wonder why you don't have many in prison. They live next to you.
Why would they? You let them many of them go after committing heinous crimes.
But in case you were wondering...
http://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/hunger-strike-ends-at-prince-albert-jail-1.923178
You're so pathetic and so easy to defeat.
Because Americans aren't shooting across the border and aren't killing Canadian Border Guards when they cross into Canada. Must be nice having a nice buffer.
In other words... YOU FAIL
No go make more stupid accusations for me to make you look like a bigger hypocrite.
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The Mexican children were throwing rocks at the US border guards, not firing weapons.
Three people, including two teenagers, were shot and killed in separate incidents by US Border Patrol police for allegedly throwing rocks at officers along the US border with Mexico. Two were reportedly on the Mexican side and were shot across the border. An investigation by the US Justice Department into the shooting of 15-year-old Sergio Adrián Hernández Güereca in similar circumstances in 2010 was still pending at the end of the year.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Canada has a much lower violent crime rate than the US so obviously something we are doing or not doing in Canada is not creating problems.
I suspect violent crime rates in the US are higher than in Canada is because we have a much lower incarceration rate. We tend not to lock up drug addicts and instead try to deal with them through our universal medical/health system. Prisons don't make us safer from non-violent offenders. Prison culture tends to turn non-violent criminals into violent criminals, which is why the penal system is not the best place for drug addicts and other non-violent criminals. Sooner or later most convicted criminals get out, and the more time they serve, the more they learn from other criminals how to become better criminals.
Most of the rest of your post indicates why the US has a poor human rights record. Most Americans can't admit the USA has any human rights problems. I'm sure if Pakistan flew drones in American airspace to kill Americans along with innocent people nearby you might be able to understand why these actions tend to make entire countries angry with the US.
Based on what you wrote and your denial, its pretty clear that Americans don't recognize their human rights problems, which is why the problems will continue to become worse.
Three people, including two teenagers, were shot and killed in separate incidents by US Border Patrol police for allegedly throwing rocks at officers along the US border with Mexico. Two were reportedly on the Mexican side and were shot across the border. An investigation by the US Justice Department into the shooting of 15-year-old Sergio Adrián Hernández Güereca in similar circumstances in 2010 was still pending at the end of the year.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Canada has a much lower violent crime rate than the US so obviously something we are doing or not doing in Canada is not creating problems.
I suspect violent crime rates in the US are higher than in Canada is because we have a much lower incarceration rate. We tend not to lock up drug addicts and instead try to deal with them through our universal medical/health system. Prisons don't make us safer from non-violent offenders. Prison culture tends to turn non-violent criminals into violent criminals, which is why the penal system is not the best place for drug addicts and other non-violent criminals. Sooner or later most convicted criminals get out, and the more time they serve, the more they learn from other criminals how to become better criminals.
Most of the rest of your post indicates why the US has a poor human rights record. Most Americans can't admit the USA has any human rights problems. I'm sure if Pakistan flew drones in American airspace to kill Americans along with innocent people nearby you might be able to understand why these actions tend to make entire countries angry with the US.
Based on what you wrote and your denial, its pretty clear that Americans don't recognize their human rights problems, which is why the problems will continue to become worse.
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Nothing about the Canadian Prison Hunger Strikes? Canada turning over captives to be tortured and killed? Canada starting to invest heavy in killer drones? Child molesters in Canada being released to molest again?
Since you're being completely OWNED you continue to rant and be repetitive.
Just wondering... does Canada plan on assassinating any other world leaders any time soon?
: How a NATO air strike finished off Libya's dictator | Mail Online
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