Brutality & Violence from Union Protestors

CanIrish

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do understand that people who are in non-union jobs have to pay union dues anyway???
WTF??
and they wonder why all the jobs are going elsewhere....
 

petros

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and they wonder why all the jobs are going elsewhere....
Jobs are going elsewhere because they can abuse people elsewhere.. How long do you think it will be before people in Asia say "**** this noise, we're not going to be abused by foreigners any longer"?
 

earth_as_one

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This law is about busting unions, lower wages and over time fewer worker rights, benefits and less job protection... Eventually there will be two classes of people. Those who own corporations and people with McJobs. I hope Canadians are smart enough to know that a race to the bottom is a bad idea.
 

JLM

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This law is about busting unions, lower wages and over time fewer worker rights, benefits and less job protection... Eventually there will be two classes of people. Those who own corporations and people with McJobs. I hope Canadians are smart enough to know that a race to the bottom is a bad idea.

Your surest job protection comes from putting your nose to the grindstone and out performing everyone else and don't whine!-:)
 

CDNBear

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I could care less about Govt/Public employee unions but when Freedom of Assembly is gone for one, it's gone for all.
Unions aren't about freedom of assembly.

They're about making money for union heads.

My biggest objection to Unions is the disparity in wages between Union and non-Union paycheques.
I've worked for non union manufacturers, that were more than just competitive in wages and benefits.

do understand that people who are in non-union jobs have to pay union dues anyway???
WTF??
It gets even better, even though you have to pay those union dues, you aren't protected by or served by the union you pay them too.
 

JLM

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A reputable outfit that takes pride in their product will pay whatever it takes to keep a good man/woman so long as for every dollar they are paying you they make a $1.25.
 

CDNBear

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I've seen pink rocks too....
Honda and anyone of their tier one suppliers.

Not only are their wages the same as the CAW, so are their benefits.

That's how they keep the union out.

I make as much as a non unionized sub contractor (More actually), as unionized welders. The only difference is, I pay for my own benefits. But since I make more I'd say it works out to about even, if not a little better on my side.

... the point being, they're not a majority.
I can't really say one way or the other, but I think any major industry left in Canada that isn't union, wants to keep it that way.

The only legal way to do that, is to be a competitive with wages and benefits.
 

lone wolf

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Honda and anyone of their tier one suppliers.

Not only are their wages the same as the CAW, so are their benefits.

That's how they keep the union out.

I make as much as a non unionized sub contractor (More actually), as unionized welders. The only difference is, I pay for my own benefits. But since I make more I'd say it works out to about even, if not a little better on my side.

I can't really say one way or the other, but I think any major industry left in Canada that isn't union, wants to keep it that way.

The only legal way to do that, is to be a competitive with wages and benefits.
It's the only smart way too - until its product become a threat to profits for a multinational throw-away provider. Thing is, a mucker at Strobie Mine pulls in a hell of a lot more income for the same menial task as the guy who shovels away the spill from one of Beamish's crushers.
 

CDNBear

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Thing is, a mucker at Strobie Mine pulls in a hell of a lot more income for the same menial task as the gut who shovels away the spill from one of Beamish's crushers.
I'll give you that.

But the mucker takes a bigger risk.

Funny you should bring up mining, when I worked for Dynatec Mining, another anti union company, we got paid union wages, and received union benefits.

But still had to pay dues because we did work on union covered property.

We didn't get anything for it or out of it. Except for union guys filling out diesel tanks with concrete mix.
 

darkbeaver

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They can also kill the goose that lays the golden egg! Case in point postal union. Postage has gotten so high now, that people either don't use the post as there are other means today and if you have to ship a parcel, cheaper and just as fast to put it on the bus.



Not hard to see where minimum wage has gotten us!

You should examine the benefits unions have fought and won for you. Wall Mart has never lain a golden egg and should it decide to do so you certainly, being a working class slob like me, will never be invited to shave a bit off and as is the time honoured reality they will also kill and eat the golden goose themselves and you'd get none of that either. It was your sentiment that made it possible to export millions of manufacturing jobs to the slave countries and they got no fracking golden eggs either. This economy of the west has been systematically sacked since the advent of Free Trade and if you're enjoying that you will no doubt be elated by the new great depression. You see there is every reason to be very afraid of the next few years because total system breakdown is what was planned and that cannot be avoided. Union busting is just an efficiency so the very last drops of blood may be extracted from paper thin labour. It'll keep them frightened and tired and maybe too busy to fight back or so they hope.
 

Cliffy

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You should examine the benefits unions have fought and won for you. Wall Mart has never lain a golden egg and should it decide to do so you certainly, being a working class slob like me, will never be invited to shave a bit off and as is the time honoured reality they will also kill and eat the golden goose themselves and you'd get none of that either. It was your sentiment that made it possible to export millions of manufacturing jobs to the slave countries and they got no fracking golden eggs either. This economy of the west has been systematically sacked since the advent of Free Trade and if you're enjoying that you will no doubt be elated by the new great depression. You see there is every reason to be very afraid of the next few years because total system breakdown is what was planned and that cannot be avoided. Union busting is just an efficiency so the very last drops of blood may be extracted from paper thin labour. It'll keep them frightened and tired and maybe too busy to fight back or so they hope.
Yup, it looks like we are headed for Hunger Games. People would be well advised to brush up on their barter skills.
 

darkbeaver

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Honda and anyone of their tier one suppliers.

Not only are their wages the same as the CAW, so are their benefits.

That's how they keep the union out.

I make as much as a non unionized sub contractor (More actually), as unionized welders. The only difference is, I pay for my own benefits. But since I make more I'd say it works out to about even, if not a little better on my side.

I can't really say one way or the other, but I think any major industry left in Canada that isn't union, wants to keep it that way.

The only legal way to do that, is to be a competitive with wages and benefits.

I don't suppose you know that the competing wages and benefits are union got. No union no competition genius.
 

Ron in Regina

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At one point, Unions stood up for the little guys against the bullies, be they
companies, gov't, etc...and that was a good thing.

Now it seems different. I watched the video. They've become the bullies
much of the time. That's not a good thing.
 

darkbeaver

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Yup, it looks like we are headed for Hunger Games. People would be well advised to brush up on their barter skills.

Without any doubt at all. Things will get very very bad before they ever get better if they ever get better. The cities will be terrible places to live. What a fracking mess.

At one point, Unions stood up for the little guys against the bullies, be they
companies, gov't, etc...and that was a good thing.

Now it seems different. I watched the video. They've become the bullies
much of the time. That's not a good thing.

Book---- The Brothers Ruther------many people have died or had their heads bashed and their arms and legs smashed shot crushed by horse charge gased and locked out to the point of starvation even machine guns were once considered proper labour relations tools.