Israel Welcomes Evangelical Support—but not an Evangelical Presence
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Truth is unpopular. That's why evangelicals are met with resistance.
Nope.
Jesus Christ.
Then why are you ignoring chapter and verse about Christ's CIRCUMCISION, presentation at the JEWISH temple as a baby, his spoken language of HEBREW, teaching at the JEWISH temple, observance of PASSOVER, extortion to uphold the scriptures, fulfillment of JEWISH prophecy?
As I already told you, Abraham was the first Jew, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Christ.
The Son of God that we will come face to face with one day is a Jew. Get over it.
Yes. But first you have to understand that the actual word "rapture" isn't recorded in the bible.
Christians want that? No. It's God who said that the unsaved are going to hell. Your beef is with your Creator, not the Christians who stand on His Word.
lol, More like their own unbelief, or Islam, or the anti-God left.
The cultus of an external divinity binds man’s hands tight in the pleading attitude of prayer. This form of religious expression certifies man’s surrender of his divine potential to an outside power. A digest of the whole argument can be put forth in the sharp and graphic statement that the issues of history depend upon the human choice in religion between our acting upon our own initiative in dependence upon our own powers, and our running in prayer to an overlord of life localized somewhere in the cosmos. The running to God with all our problems in prayer, as Jung says, keeps the potential divinity within ourselves in the weakness of its childhood. By ignoring it we leave it unexercised and undeveloped; we give it no chance to exert its fledgeling energies and thereby grow.
It is true to the last degree of verity that mankind will never rise to the status of conscious lordship over its destiny until it turns from the worship of gods exterior to itself and cultivates the deific forces all too latent within its own nature. Shocking as it is going to be to the pious, but psychologically true past debate, it must be stated that it is precisely this
hypostatized figure of the historical Jesus that stands between man and his own divinity, and blocks the path of each human to his God. For while he fills all their vision and receives the full meed of their devotion, they, as Jung says, neglect to make real the divine power needing attention and cultivation within themselves. Not until "he" is removed out of the way will Western man come at last to the realization that whatever salvation is available to him will be that released by the birth of the Sun of Righteousness, rising with healing in his wings, from out the depths of his own combined human and divine natures.
ALVIN BOYD KUHN, Ph.D.
It is true to the last degree of verity that mankind will never rise to the status of conscious lordship over its destiny until it turns from the worship of gods exterior to itself and cultivates the deific forces all too latent within its own nature. Shocking as it is going to be to the pious, but psychologically true past debate, it must be stated that it is precisely this
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CASE OF THE MISSING MESSIAH
ALVIN BOYD KUHN, Ph.D.
DBJesus the meat is a crafty invention.DB
DBJesus the meat is a crafty invention.DB
Abraham met Christ in person.
Ge:14:18:
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.
Ge:14:19:
And he blessed him,
and said,
Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth:
Abraham means son of RA. another jesus type, the bible includes over thirty names denoting the same type
Wassa matta Alley? Are the questions I pose too difficult for you? And I am not christian bashing. I'm trying to get to the heart of the matter.
Yeah, according to unbelievers God and His Word are extreme, and anyone who stands on the biblical position is an "extremist". Got it. Fortunately labels don't matter, principles do.
What questions? Ask me a honest one then because I would love to answer.
Why? Their false beliefs are irrelevant, especially when the topic is evangelicals in Israel.
Agreed.
He's coming back. (It's ironic that you consistently accuse me of not being a real Christian, yet I give you the biblical position every time, and every time you contradict the bible and try to convince us you're the real christian)
I can't attend church. My only weapon is God's Word. The exact opposite of your only tactic, which is your warm yet untested theology that comes from YOU, not God.
CASE OF THE MISSING MESSIAHThe transformation, the transfiguration of man can take place only through the marriage of soul and sense within the inner core of the human consciousness. As the Christian creed--an ancient formulary taken over from old Pagan runes and rituals--so well says, speaking of the descent of the son-units of God-soul into the life of the human body, the Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit in heaven, and born of the Virgin Mary, mother-matter, body, on earth. "Begotten, not created" the creed says; i.e. begotten in heaven "before all worlds", but created on earth, as indeed all things are. They are conceived in mind, then created in matter. Where and where only must it be seen that this father-conception and mother-birthing of the Christ can be consummated? The answer sets irrevocably the seal of truth on every word of this essay: it can be consummated only within the heart, mind and body of every human being on earth individually and consciously.
The idea that it could be accomplished by one-only Son of God, a man not of our human order, vicariously for us all--and we needing only to "believe" this theorization to win its full efficacy for ourselves--must be written down as close to the crowning fatuity of all religious maundering. No god was ever sent to earth to transfigure man by saving him the evolutionary work of transfiguring himself. And no man will be rightfully, happily, efficiently oriented to this task unless and until he knows that within his own mind and in his very body of flesh resides that Christ-child who is in fact his own sonship from his Father. Through that realization, and through it only, can and will his entire dynamic of psychic energy be focused, like the sun’s rays through a lens, upon the seed-power of Christly consciousness and cause it to burst into flame. How sagely the ancient Egyptians spoke of the soul of Christhood coming to earth "to kindle a fire in the underworld".
The idea that it could be accomplished by one-only Son of God, a man not of our human order, vicariously for us all--and we needing only to "believe" this theorization to win its full efficacy for ourselves--must be written down as close to the crowning fatuity of all religious maundering. No god was ever sent to earth to transfigure man by saving him the evolutionary work of transfiguring himself. And no man will be rightfully, happily, efficiently oriented to this task unless and until he knows that within his own mind and in his very body of flesh resides that Christ-child who is in fact his own sonship from his Father. Through that realization, and through it only, can and will his entire dynamic of psychic energy be focused, like the sun’s rays through a lens, upon the seed-power of Christly consciousness and cause it to burst into flame. How sagely the ancient Egyptians spoke of the soul of Christhood coming to earth "to kindle a fire in the underworld".
Noooo because they are wrong. If you are right you don't need to school people on how to defend wrong ideas. The truth has been there for 1980 years. Unless you are calling Jesus a liar?
The truth doesn't need lame *** excuses.
Peter was the first head of the Church appointed by Jesus and the first Catholic.
Read carefully and slowly if need be...
"And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. "
The Lutheran church –1517 AD. Founded by a man, Martin Luther
The Anabaptist church – 1520 AD. Founded by a man, Nicholas Storch
The Mennonite church – 1525 AD. Founded by men, Grebel, Mantz, and Blaurock
The Baptist church – 1606 AD. Founded by a man, John Smyth
The Amish church – 1693 AD. Founded by a man, Jacob Amman
The Anglican Church – 1534 AD. Founded by a man, King Henry VIII
The Presbyterian church – 1560 AD. Founded by a man, John Knox
The Congregationalist church (The Puritans) – 1583 AD. Founded by a man, Robert Brown
The Unitarian church – 1568 AD. Started in Poland, but died out. It was soon replaced by a man, John Biddle
The Episcopalian church – 1784 AD. Founded by a man, Samuel Seabury
The Quakers - 1647 AD. Founded by a man, George Fox
The Methodist church – 1739 AD. Founded by men, John and Charles Wesley
The Evangelical church – 1803 AD. Founded by a man, Jacob Albright
The Mormon church – 1829 AD. Also call themselves "Latter Day Saints", was founded by a man, Joseph Smith
The Seventh Day Adventists – 1831 AD. Founded by a man, William Miller
Jehovah's Witnesses – 1872 AD. Founded by a man, Charles Taze Russell
The Christian Scientists – 1879 AD. Founded by a woman, Mary Baker Eddy
Assemblies of God - 1901 AD. Founded by a man, Charles Parham
Not a single one of these people are Jesus who started His Church through Peter. There is only one Religion started by Jesus and it's Catholic.
once again....
"And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. "
Peter was the first Pope and founder of the Church.
He was an Israelite. Aramaic was the language he Minstered in. Israelite speak Hebrew for some odd reason. Passover is an Israelite tradition and he fiullfilled Israelite prophecies.
There was no Judea so how was he a Jew? He was the first Israelite.
Jesus was an Israelite and will return as an Israelite.
Of course it's not in there because there isn't going to be one. You've been had! Darby was a piece of ****!
No other branch of Christianity wants to pack them all into one tiny space, start a war and try to convert them. 1980 years of saying NO doesn't sink in with you people does it? If that's what they want and they have to answer to God why is it any business of your's to secide and who the Hell made you God?
So you can't disprove that Muzzies are awaiting the Second Coming as well without a video or opinion or what you've been told? I didn't think you could.
You don't give Chapter and Verse you just give opinions and videos.
If it's not in the Book, It's Bull****.
Jeremiah 31:31-34: "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah (Israelites and Jews), not like the covenant which I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant which they broke, though I was their husband, says the LORD. But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each man teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, `Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, says the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
God knew the Jews would refuse so the NEW COVENANT was aimed at Israel which was now seperate from Judea, Judah, Jews.
These Israelites who followed Jesus went on the be the first Christians under the New Covenant declared by Jesus himself.
Now are you going to call God a liar that the Covenant was broken and NEW Covenant issued?
The Jews blew it!
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I'm new to religjus study myself but it appears the Israelites broke the covenant they had made with the god they had made. Crafty scribes, don't play marbles with them. It just appears like that to me because A/ I haven't been saved B/ I have been saved from being saved C/ there's nothing to save me from but me.
Thus reduced I have no option but to pocket the cost of religious apparel and tomes gold fobs glass knobs and gold crosses temples of doom etc and God and I will drink the entire amount. I won't need a respectable sedan either. I think. video to follow
Thus reduced I have no option but to pocket the cost of religious apparel and tomes gold fobs glass knobs and gold crosses temples of doom etc and God and I will drink the entire amount. I won't need a respectable sedan either. I think. video to follow
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What's wrong with me?
"There was no Judea so how was he a Jew? He was the first Israelite."
Israelite
UR reveals a grand list of shining names. It was in itself the greatest and most likely the original word for fire. The Egyptians, wishing to name it the fire, added the divine article, the, which in their language was the hieroglyph for the letter P. This addition made it p-ur, pur, the Greek word for fire to this day. From this comes pure, purge, purgatory, as also pyre, pyrotechnic and empyrean, the Greek U changing to Y in English, as in hundreds of words. Ur (a variant of aur, or) was the name of that state of the primordial spiritual "fire" from which the first divine ray, Ab-ra-ham, proceeded as first father of spiritual Israel (not the historical Hebrews). In the same category it was the name of the universal Egyptian symbol of creative fire, the uraeus, "a serpent of fire," which was sevenfold as typifying the seven archangels that created the universe. It is therefore another representation of the dragon or beast with seven heads. Is it strange that our modern discovery of the creative fire of the universe in the atom has brought into prominence as the most fiery of the elements those two whose names incorporate both the title of the Sun-god and the Uraeus, RAdium and URanium? The German language has some hundreds of words prefixing UR, as Ursprung, Urquelle, Ursache, all meaning original source-spring of being. All life came out of UR, the primordial fount of cosmic fire. A verse in the Chaldean Oracles says that "all things are the product of one primordial fire, every way resplendent." How resplendent it is our modern nuclear physics is now revealing! The Hebrew word for father being ab, Ab-ra-m is "Father Ra," as clearly as Hebrew can say it. Ram would be this creative fire immersed in water, matter.THE
Israelite
The Greeks adopted unto themselves the divine name Hellenes, signifying "bright and shining ones," dubbing the rest of humanity "barbarians." (They did this in the same fashion and with the same motive as the Jews adopted for themselves the divine name Israelites, dubbing the rest of mankind "Gentiles.")
"There was no Judea so how was he a Jew? He was the first Israelite."
Israelite
UR reveals a grand list of shining names. It was in itself the greatest and most likely the original word for fire. The Egyptians, wishing to name it the fire, added the divine article, the, which in their language was the hieroglyph for the letter P. This addition made it p-ur, pur, the Greek word for fire to this day. From this comes pure, purge, purgatory, as also pyre, pyrotechnic and empyrean, the Greek U changing to Y in English, as in hundreds of words. Ur (a variant of aur, or) was the name of that state of the primordial spiritual "fire" from which the first divine ray, Ab-ra-ham, proceeded as first father of spiritual Israel (not the historical Hebrews). In the same category it was the name of the universal Egyptian symbol of creative fire, the uraeus, "a serpent of fire," which was sevenfold as typifying the seven archangels that created the universe. It is therefore another representation of the dragon or beast with seven heads. Is it strange that our modern discovery of the creative fire of the universe in the atom has brought into prominence as the most fiery of the elements those two whose names incorporate both the title of the Sun-god and the Uraeus, RAdium and URanium? The German language has some hundreds of words prefixing UR, as Ursprung, Urquelle, Ursache, all meaning original source-spring of being. All life came out of UR, the primordial fount of cosmic fire. A verse in the Chaldean Oracles says that "all things are the product of one primordial fire, every way resplendent." How resplendent it is our modern nuclear physics is now revealing! The Hebrew word for father being ab, Ab-ra-m is "Father Ra," as clearly as Hebrew can say it. Ram would be this creative fire immersed in water, matter.THE
Israelite
The Greeks adopted unto themselves the divine name Hellenes, signifying "bright and shining ones," dubbing the rest of humanity "barbarians." (They did this
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Faith comes from within. Preaching your interpretation as the Word is extremism. Hijacking threads to do it is compulsive obsession.
How can he live in Israel and not know this? It's quite common for religious organizations to have to sign agreements guaranteeing that they won't proselitize, for example.
What does having a web server in Israel have to do with actually being there?
The verse below doesn't apply to 'Jews' it applies to anybody in Judea at the time
M't:24:15:
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand
M't:24:16:
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: