Israel Welcomes Evangelical Support—but not an Evangelical Presence

darkbeaver

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Perhaps you should read parts of the book again.
If you mean read the bible again then that is what I am doing but from it's parent sources which are very well known and freely available.

Re:21:4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
Whenever death is spoken of as it is in this verse it refers to the death of the soul in matter and not to the death of the material body.

Notice they are only sending money, nobody is moving there that should be the 'big clue' that even false Christians don't believe God has anything to do with the Rothschild's Israel or is that 'is hell real'.
Again when ever hell is used in the biblical material they refer to the souls incarnation into the human meat package and nothing else. Being in the carnal state is hell to souls
That God is only of the mind of man and has no material reference on earth.




Zec:14:9:
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.
This King of Glory was named by the ancient Egyptians I U. This became later J U and Y U. As he was also God, the Hebrews added their word for Deity--E L. This gave Y U-E L, eventually YULE. The French form used the short root of the divine principle of intelligence, N O (cognate with our English know), the No-etic faculty, with the Hebrew E L and derived NOEL.

Zec:14:17:
And it shall be,
that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
even upon them shall be no rain.
The Schaff-Herzog dictionary of religious terms gives four meanings for such a name as "Jerusalem," following the gradient of classification laid down by Philo. Literally the name means the city in Palestine; morally, the believing soul; allegorically, the Church; and anagogically the city of heavenly peace, located only of course in consciousness. While this scheme of interpretation permits it to mean the geo-
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graphical town, it by no means confines it to that rendering, which the historical view does.Who is this

Seems NYC was getting rain and they aren't invited to come to Israel let alone everybody from all the Nations in the world.[/QUOTE]

This is the fact that had the Pentateuch been a real history, Palestine and Judea ought to have been found overstrewn with implements of war and work, both of Hebrew manufacture and that of the conquered races, whereas, outside of the Book, no evidence of the numberless combats and the devastation of Jehovah’s enemies in great battles is to be found. Also the country of a people so rich that King David in his poverty could collect one thousand millions of pounds sterling toward building a temple is found without art, sculptures, mosaics, bronzes, pottery or precious stones to lend credence to the Bible story. Proofs of Bible "history" will not be found, avers Massey, not though Palestine be dug up in the search. And how fatuous after all to think of digging in the 95
earth to find the proofs of spiritual myths and allegories! No amount of archaeology can prove a myth.
 

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This is the fact that had the Pentateuch been a real history, Palestine and Judea ought to have been found overstrewn with implements of war and work, both of Hebrew manufacture and that of the conquered races, whereas, outside of the Book, no evidence of the numberless combats and the devastation of Jehovah’s enemies in great battles is to be found. Also the country of a people so rich that King David in his poverty could collect one thousand millions of pounds sterling toward building a temple is found without art, sculptures, mosaics, bronzes, pottery or precious stones to lend credence to the Bible story. Proofs of Bible "history" will not be found, avers Massey, not though Palestine be dug up in the search. And how fatuous after all to think of digging in the 95
earth to find the proofs of spiritual myths and allegories! No amount of archaeology can prove a myth.
Not really, the verse below is for more than just Thomas, no proof will be found is basically what it is saying. The Book is the whole deal from then until the time when proof will again be available and there is no penalty in waiting for proof that you can touch. Your version requires proof and none exist today (nor tomorrow, etc) so the Bible must be something other than literal if it is to be real. In any time did you ever consider that God is just really good at hiding His 'tracks'?

Joh:20:29:
Jesus saith unto him,
Thomas,
because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed.
 

darkbeaver

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MHz;1676777]Not really, the verse below is for more than just Thomas, no proof will be found is basically what it is saying. The Book is the whole deal from then until the time when proof will again be available and there is no penalty in waiting for proof that you can touch. Your version requires proof and none exist today (nor tomorrow, etc) so the Bible must be something other than literal if it is to be real. In any time did you ever consider that God is just really good at hiding His 'tracks'?
Having to hide his tracks would indicate a less than an omnipotent God. The tracks were hidden by the keepers of the knowledge specificaly to keep them from the uninitiated swine like us pearl trampling rustics.

The bible deals exclusively with incarnation of christ (the force) (reasoning conscience mind) in the beast man. The proof is in the gift of reason.

Jesus saith unto him,
Thomas,
because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed.

It is possible to feel god and believe also or to reason out god or to empathize with the christ within, you see.
 

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There are lots of options available in the lull in the action. (starting when the last writer died) and like I said it doesn't carry any rewards or curses. You can't 'save anybody' nor can anybody 'save you' because salvation is lot lost top anybody, the time schedule for being gathered has 2 stops to make, if you aren't in the first group you will be in he 2nd one. The 4 Gospels all cover the cross, it was either a real event or it was not. In the real part it was the completion of the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15, that means the other bruise is going to be just as literal, or neither is literal and the book might as well be used as a door-stopper.
 

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There are lots of options available in the lull in the action. (starting when the last writer died) and like I said it doesn't carry any rewards or curses. You can't 'save anybody' nor can anybody 'save you' because salvation is lot lost top anybody, the time schedule for being gathered has 2 stops to make, if you aren't in the first group you will be in he 2nd one. The 4 Gospels all cover the cross, it was either a real event or it was not. In the real part it was the completion of the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15, that means the other bruise is going to be just as literal, or neither is literal and the book might as well be used as a door-stopper.
I vote for the latter.

As Mulder would say, "the truth is out there". Or as Obiwan would say "Use the Force Luke. Use the Force." Truth and knowing cannot be found in books, only through your life experiences.
 

darkbeaver

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I vote for the latter.

As Mulder would say, "the truth is out there". Or as Obiwan would say "Use the Force Luke. Use the Force." Truth and knowing cannot be found in books, only through your life experiences.

Experiences like reading?


There are lots of options available in the lull in the action. (starting when the last writer died) and like I said it doesn't carry any rewards or curses. You can't 'save anybody' nor can anybody 'save you' because salvation is lot lost top anybody, the time schedule for being gathered has 2 stops to make, if you aren't in the first group you will be in he 2nd one. The 4 Gospels all cover the cross, it was either a real event or it was not. In the real part it was the completion of the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15, that means the other bruise is going to be just as literal, or neither is literal and the book might as well be used as a door-stopper.

As "the summits of secondary natures are most proximate to the bases of superior orders,"--to use the quaint phrase of Proclus in Thomas Taylor's translations--we find here at last the ground for an understanding of the Biblical figuration of the mutual bruising of head and heel in the Genesis myth. The bruising would take place at the point of contact, where the lower portion of the upper man would come into friction with the highest portion of the lower. The warfare between soul and sense would be fought on the border-line between the two natures in man, and precisely there is where the Egyptian books state that the great (spiritual) Battle of Armageddon is fought--on the "horizon," the line between heaven and earth, or spirit and matter.http://pc93.tripod.com/stblmngr.htmttp://
 

darkbeaver

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We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are not humans having a spiritual experience.

We are spiritual beings having a beastly experience. Human is from manis (to think) I think. sumthin like that without the spiritual we ain't human I'm cheating Petros the search engine does the trick on the Kuhn books, everything about religion is all there.
 

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We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are not humans having a spiritual experience.
And some spiritual beings can have a human experience with or without religion. Realizing we are spiritual beings doesn't necessarily require a religious outlook.
 

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Adherents of religions or denominations of those religions,who claim all others- the vast majority of humanity- are hell bent,must know by that assertion that their religions or denominations are false at best. What I find troubling is the short step from claiming others are dammed to denying those people rights, freedom, or life itself.
 

darkbeaver

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"The name of Herod in Syriac denotes a red dragon; and the red dragon in Revelation, which stands ready to devour the young child that is about to be born, is the mythical form of the Herod who has been made historical in our Gospels."
To strengthen this inference, already well grounded on comparative religion studies, is the additional fact that the same red dragon, or evil serpent of the lower nature in man, is in the Egyptian myths the monster Apap (Apep, Apepi) whose other name is found to be the Herut reptile! When also the name for the "dense sea" (of matter) under which the Christ aeon was said to suffer in its incarnation is seen appearing in old creedal formulae as the Greek pontos piletos, and we have thus the entirely non-historical origins of "Pontius Pilate" along with "Herod" in the Gospel framework, there is a clear challenge to the upholders of the historicity of the Gospels to explain how these two names, the one threatening the Christos in its infancy, the other carrying him to his death, have found their way into the story in precisely the same place, role and character as the two non-historical elements of the names!
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Christianity euhemerized the pagan conception of the germinal deity in us in the historical Jesus. But this has left the rest of mortals unsanctified. The personalized Christ cuts the commonalty of mankind off from its divinity. An "only-begotten son of God," made to carry all the values and meanings in his human person, robs mankind at large of its birthright. The mistranslation of the Greek "monogenes" as "only-begotten" was an error fraught with the most terrific consequences for Christendom. It properly means "born of the one parent alone" (the Father, Spirit), in contradistinction to the idea of being born of the union of Father and Mother, or spirit and matter. It was a reference in ancient theogony to the descent of the Logos (the cosmic counterpart of the Christos in man) from the spiritual side of God’s nature alone, as distinct from its progenation from the union of spirit with matter. The doctrine was primordial in the Egypthttp://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htmhttp://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htmhttp://
 
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When you read it before was that front to back the whole way through? If you were to do an e-bible search of the term 'dragon' and you went and read all the passages that have that term in it would you come up with what you just posted? I don't think you would and what summary you could provide would be more accurate than what you just posted.