Israel Welcomes Evangelical Support—but not an Evangelical Presence

[In Between Man]

Petros, tell me, which definition of "baptism" makes more sense:

"Baptism is the incarnation of the spirit soul into the waters of the body matter."

OR

"Baptism is an OUTWARD EXPRESSION of the INWARD change that has ALREADY taken place in your heart."

I know I'm not speaking Chinese, so help a guy out here...

 

[darkbeaver]

Word salad. Your doctrine is completely foreign to me. Ancient mystery schools?

It's foreign because you are not a christian.

 

[In Between Man]

there never was a time when christ did not exist and there never can be,

This I agree with you.

christ was never exclusively manifested in one man

This I don't.

 

[Liberalman]

Because of politically correctness everybody has a hidden agenda as far as Israel is concerned except for the Muslims who wants Israel to be destroyed off the face of the earth. Peace will come when both stop their aggression towards each other.

 

[In Between Man]

It's foreign because you are not a christian.

Obviously we disagree on the definition of Christian. When we both stand before God on that Great Day, we will find out who was right.

 

[darkbeaver]

Quote:

christ was never exclusively manifested in one man
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This I don't.

Right there is the conflict that tore the early church to pieces and left us the empty hulk of wooden crosses and stone temples to stupidity. The decision was made by the dafter early fathers to build the church on the rock of Peter instead of the mind of Paul. The rock represents mater, the material world. That was the breach with reason which precipitated the dark ages.

Obviously we disagree on the definition of Christian. When we both stand before God on that Great Day, we will find out who was right.

I already know who is right. Your being judged right now, you have always been subject to review, you do remember your conscience and sense of guilt don't you, what about your self conscience mind, why do you think you have to wait. I am standing with god right now it is impossible to do otherwise. A day is just a completed cycle and every day is as great as the next.

Me and god are going to the shed to smoke smore of his cannabis. see ya later nice talkin witja

 

[In Between Man]

Me and god are going to the shed to smoke smore of his cannabis. see ya later nice talkin witja

Nice talking witja too. Have a toke for me, I'll be back online late tonight to further discuss matters...

 

[damngrumpy]

The only end time will feature a charred planet with nearly everyone dead
There is no religious end time where JC is coming back and all will be well
with the world.

 

[Cliffy]

The only end time will feature a charred planet with nearly everyone dead
There is no religious end time where JC is coming back and all will be well
with the world.

War of the Worlds, holy wars or cataclysmic extinction event?

The Earth will survive human stupidity. She has survived much worse. Life will go on with or without us.

 

[Spade]

The only end time will feature a charred planet with nearly everyone dead
There is no religious end time where JC is coming back and all will be well
with the world.

Amen to that!

Those who believe all but they will roast eternally in a lake of fire are neither sane nor to be taken seriously.

 

[Cliffy]

Amen to that!

Those who believe all but they will roast eternally in a lake of fire are neither sane nor to be taken seriously.

You know someone who is sane?

I'm waiting for the Beav to come back from the wood shed where he is getting right with Ja.

 

[petros]

Petros, tell me, which definition of "baptism" makes more sense:

"Baptism is the incarnation of the spirit soul into the waters of the body matter."

OR

"Baptism is an OUTWARD EXPRESSION of the INWARD change that has ALREADY taken place in your heart."

I know I'm not speaking Chinese, so help a guy out here...

A cleansing.

I've studied this particular topic and I know you're mistaken. The Islamic version of Revelation says that "Muslim Jesus" aka "Jesus the Prophet" (not the Son of God) comes back under the Mahdi, to declare that he never died on the cross, it was all a trick, AND that while he was gone he converted to Islam, AND that after the Mahdi offers Islam to the Jews and Christians those who refuse will be put to the death by "Chief Executioner Jesus". There's nothing in there about "Muslims joining Christians" only Christians being defeated by triumphant Islam.

Is that S hite version? Sunni version? Sufi vesrion, Kharijite? Ahmadiyya? Quranist? Wahabbi?

So none are waiting for the Second Coming eh?

 

[MHz]

Time to start sending blank checks, blank as is not filled out in any amount.

 

[In Between Man]

Is that S hite version? Sunni version? Sufi vesrion, Kharijite? Ahmadiyya? Quranist? Wahabbi?

Irrelevant. It's not going to happen.

So none are waiting for the Second Coming eh?

Not that I know of. And again it would irrelevant because by definition of what a Muslim believes, any Second Coming belief wouldn't be a belief NOT in the Son of God, it would be a belief in "Muslim Jesus", and no such person exists.

 

[CDNBear]

It comes as no surprise, Evangelists are Christianities answer to Islamic fundamentalists.

 

[Cliffy]

Irrelevant. It's not going to happen.



Not that I know of. And again it would irrelevant because by definition of what a Muslim believes, any Second Coming belief wouldn't be a belief NOT in the Son of God, it would be a belief in "Muslim Jesus", and no such person exists.

And neither is Jesus coming back to save your sorry butt. Your beliefs are just as absurd as the Muzzies.

 

[MHz]

It comes as no surprise, Evangelists are Christianities answer to Islamic fundamentalists.

False christianity includes more than that sorry *** group, still amazes me that they could turn a book so far around, but then they didn't keep the best company through the years and it is a gentler approach to herding people than the 'tests' that left you dead either way. W hat would a personal visit be like today, armor plated clothing is normal wear.

Nor are they as naive as they pretend to be, true they pledge blind support but it is money and not their own bodies so they know this is not the biblical gathering that is in the book they say they follow.. Still when caught with their hand in the cookie jar they do make an effort to bring in lasting changes, that part just doesn't get mainstream attention because of other agendas so they are at least 1 step above hopeless.

 

[petros]

Irrelevant. It's not going to happen.



Not that I know of. And again it would irrelevant because by definition of what a Muslim believes, any Second Coming belief wouldn't be a belief NOT in the Son of God, it would be a belief in "Muslim Jesus", and no such person exists.

There was no Jesus?

I know your beliefs are fringe beliefs but yeeesh, now you're really getting out there.

 

[darkbeaver]

War of the Worlds, holy wars or cataclysmic extinction event?

The Earth will survive human stupidity. She has survived much worse. Life will go on with or without us.

Us humans, just assume that's the case with me,, and the earth have survived a lot worse. Life going on is important but yer shining spark, the enhanced bag of clues, going on is more importanter apparently being the entire reason for our dispatch to work through hell in the first place. So god seems to need food. Castenenda wrote that escaping the eagles beak was job one for the recently deceased.

Does any of that flick yer switch Cliffy? I'm running out of ideas, guess I'll have to visit my shaman later when the wheels are back on.

 

[Cliffy]

Us humans, just assume that's the case with me,, and the earth have survived a lot worse. Life going on is important but yer shining spark, the enhanced bag of clues, going on is more importanter apparently being the entire reason for our dispatch to work through hell in the first place. So god seems to need food. Castenenda wrote that escaping the eagles beak was job one for the recently deceased.

Does any of that flick yer switch Cliffy? I'm running out of ideas, guess I'll have to visit my shaman later when the wheels are back on.

If you have a shaman to visit, you should be doin' what he/she does to get the goods on god/life/reality. Castaneda got way to cryptic for me near the end of the series. After decades of study I came to the conclusion that the purpose of life on this rock was to decide to be happy in spite of all the insanity that goes on. It is our ticket out of hell. Oh, and I figure god don't give a damn about the beliefs and actions of a silly, insignificant species on an insignificant speck of dust floating in an infinite universe.